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Ramblings on a Wonderful Time

Post by catatac » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:41 pm

The Potential – I know, I know, so we one 1 game against what appeared to be a pretty good team, and we did it in blowout fashion. Doesn’t mean I’m rushing out to priceline.com to check on airfare prices to Chatty!!! But, here’s why I am cautiously optimistic: Our offensive stats look like a bell curve, getting better and better with each passing game. Kramer said it would be mid-season before things really started to click offensively and so far he’s nailed it. Will we continue to improve? I hope so and think yes. Couple that with our best D in the Big Sky for the 4th year in a row? That by itself would have me hopeful for a successful rest of the season, (possibly 1 loss?) and a run in the playoffs. But the reason I’m most optimistic is because this team has already passed the gut-check, how bad to you want it test! I think the sky is the limit when you have this desire that we have proven we have. Now throw in the talent and meshing that now appears to be there and we are looking good. Add in the fact that Kramer is a very experienced, seasoned head coach and will do what it takes to prepare this team for every game from here on out, and I like our chances. Stay tuned – I may have different thoughts if we suffer a let-down against Sac-State!

On NAU – Incredible. Not much else can be said. I was questioning whether or not Lulay should have even seen the field after the 1st half.

Omega – Really ticked me off that once again it took them forever to get the game up and going. What up wit dat? I was probably being rude to the Bresnan Tech. Support girl, like she had something to do with the problem!

Baby Huck – Obviously he has not learned from his mistakes. Not because he lost a game, but for his attitude. The Griz are too good and proud of a program to keep him in charge. Obviously I hope he stays as long as possible. I’m referring to the Bobby Hauck Coaches show I caught last night (insomnia is a bit$%). Announcer recapped the other scores for the weekend and got to MSU drubbing NAU and waited for Bobby’s response. Bobby’s response, paraphrased “Ya, the really surprising score to me is Weber over ISU. Good win for that program and I’m happy for them.” Then a few minutes later, Bobby said “We’re going to watch the game tape of Eastern over NAU because they really did the best job at stopping Roger Robinson.” Absolutely zero acknowledgement for us lowly bob-kitties, and in fact it was embarrassingly and painfully obvious to anyone watching that he was intentionally going out of his way to not make one comment on our dominance. He needs to grow up and quit acting like a spoiled little rich kid. I can’t wait to see what he has to say after the Whippin’ we put on them this year!

On Whitemeat – I nominate him as the classiest Griz fan of the year. Obviously loves his team and isn’t afraid to defend the Griz, but also realizes that many Griz fans’ expectations are out of control and have been that way for a few years.

Here’s to a monstrous showdown in Missoula this year!!! :D


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Post by HeHateGriz » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:49 pm

geez..I hope the offense is not a "Bell curve" or the Cats will score 30 vs. Sac, 15 vs. EWU and will get shut out by the Griz...Let's hope for continued exponential improvement!



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Re: Ramblings on a Wonderful Time

Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:53 pm

catatac wrote:The Potential – I know, I know, so we one 1 game against what appeared to be a pretty good team, and we did it in blowout fashion. Doesn’t mean I’m rushing out to priceline.com to check on airfare prices to Chatty!!! But, here’s why I am cautiously optimistic: Our offensive stats look like a bell curve, getting better and better with each passing game. Kramer said it would be mid-season before things really started to click offensively and so far he’s nailed it. Will we continue to improve? I hope so and think yes. Couple that with our best D in the Big Sky for the 4th year in a row? That by itself would have me hopeful for a successful rest of the season, (possibly 1 loss?) and a run in the playoffs. But the reason I’m most optimistic is because this team has already passed the gut-check, how bad to you want it test! I think the sky is the limit when you have this desire that we have proven we have. Now throw in the talent and meshing that now appears to be there and we are looking good. Add in the fact that Kramer is a very experienced, seasoned head coach and will do what it takes to prepare this team for every game from here on out, and I like our chances. Stay tuned – I may have different thoughts if we suffer a let-down against Sac-State!

On NAU – Incredible. Not much else can be said. I was questioning whether or not Lulay should have even seen the field after the 1st half.

Omega – Really ticked me off that once again it took them forever to get the game up and going. What up wit dat? I was probably being rude to the Bresnan Tech. Support girl, like she had something to do with the problem!

Baby Huck – Obviously he has not learned from his mistakes. Not because he lost a game, but for his attitude. The Griz are too good and proud of a program to keep him in charge. Obviously I hope he stays as long as possible. I’m referring to the Bobby Hauck Coaches show I caught last night (insomnia is a bit$%). Announcer recapped the other scores for the weekend and got to MSU drubbing NAU and waited for Bobby’s response. Bobby’s response, paraphrased “Ya, the really surprising score to me is Weber over ISU. Good win for that program and I’m happy for them.” Then a few minutes later, Bobby said “We’re going to watch the game tape of Eastern over NAU because they really did the best job at stopping Roger Robinson.” Absolutely zero acknowledgement for us lowly bob-kitties, and in fact it was embarrassingly and painfully obvious to anyone watching that he was intentionally going out of his way to not make one comment on our dominance. He needs to grow up and quit acting like a spoiled little rich kid. I can’t wait to see what he has to say after the Whippin’ we put on them this year!

On Whitemeat – I nominate him as the classiest Griz fan of the year. Obviously loves his team and isn’t afraid to defend the Griz, but also realizes that many Griz fans’ expectations are out of control and have been that way for a few years.

Here’s to a monstrous showdown in Missoula this year!!! :D

Whitemeat gets my vote as classiest Griz fan as well. He seems to me more like a Bobcat fan as he doesn't have a ELITIST complex like most Griz fans. Get this, I was watching the Griz game in a local bar here in Billings and the Griz fans actually had the gumption to talk smack to me when they were walking out :) 20 VERY ANGRY FANS with the Bobcat game coming on/put up on Big Screen. I don't know about you, but if the Bobcats lose? I usually wanna watch the Griz play if they are on TV, the ENTIRE bar of Griz fans (6 different full tables) .... LEFT THE BUILDING.

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Post by WYCAT » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:57 pm

Baby Huck – Obviously he has not learned from his mistakes. Not because he lost a game, but for his attitude. The Griz are too good and proud of a program to keep him in charge. Obviously I hope he stays as long as possible. I’m referring to the Bobby Hauck Coaches show I caught last night (insomnia is a bit$%). Announcer recapped the other scores for the weekend and got to MSU drubbing NAU and waited for Bobby’s response. Bobby’s response, paraphrased “Ya, the really surprising score to me is Weber over ISU. Good win for that program and I’m happy for them.” Then a few minutes later, Bobby said “We’re going to watch the game tape of Eastern over NAU because they really did the best job at stopping Roger Robinson.” Absolutely zero acknowledgement for us lowly bob-kitties, and in fact it was embarrassingly and painfully obvious to anyone watching that he was intentionally going out of his way to not make one comment on our dominance. He needs to grow up and quit acting like a spoiled little rich kid. I can’t wait to see what he has to say after the Whippin’ we put on them this year!
This is exactly the kind of condescending attitude he refuses to stop portraying about the cats that some griz fans won't admit. Look at Kramer's comments about NAU - 1 in a 1000 times this would happen, NAU is better than that, etc. I think his hatred and envy of the Cats is getting the better of him and unless he acknowledges that we are pretty good and aren't going away anytime soon (we have the junior QB, two junior RB's, returning receivers, good defensive corp next year, etc....) his life is going to continue to be hell in the state let alone the BSC. I think the board of regents should allow multi-year contracts as well - I for one would like to see him stay a long time. Not only is Baby having an effect on the griz on the field his attitude is really starting to hurt the griz image off the field as well and that really is a shame.

Ditto on the meat comments. He adds a lot to our discussions and I like having constructive Griz feedback from time to time.



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Post by BozoneCat » Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:05 pm

Catatac,

Funny you mention the Baby Hack Show, because I too watched it last night, noticed the exact same things you did, and was getting ready to post my feelings about it right before I read your post. How anyone can defend that jackass is quite beyond me.

Although I like Coach Kramer, I can easily see how opposing teams' fans could be put off by him and dislike him. With all the crazy stuff he says, he pretty much asks for it - although most of us know that he really is just a big goofball when he is throwing out all those big words. He has more class than anyone in the league, and he is the most popular coach in the league (to opposing coaches, etc.). You will not only never catch him speaking poorly of another team, you will only hear him praising other teams and their coaches/program. Total class act.

Baby Hack apparently is reverting to the Costanza Theory of doing everything the opposite! :-({|= :-({|= :-({|=


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Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:15 pm

I was just waiting for these types of posts coming back from Griz fans that went down to Portland State. Why is it after any of their away game losses that there always seems to be 'fights'. Check this link out. From what I experienced last week I can see why there are fights as I actually had Griz fans 'taunt' me after the Griz lost this week if you can believe it. Is this coincidental? I think not, I'm sure Bronco was there in person crying up a storm that a PSU fan flipped him off while he was sitting in the nosebleed seats.

http://www.egriz.com/GrizBoard/viewtopic.php?t=5840



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Post by WYCAT » Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:33 pm

Is this coincidental
Funny how things work isn't it? A lot (not all Meat) of their fans have traveled around the league for years now passing their crap to every other program and now that their stranglehold on the conference isn't nearly as tight, they don't like it when other teams or fans push back a little. I am not advocating violence at games but I have been to plenty of griz games and their general fan base is no better than anyone elses. I would guess this is a classic case of a bruised ego clouding someone's perspective.



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Post by Bozgriz » Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:58 pm

OK guys, now wait a second...I too watched the BH show last night and heard his comments regarding the NAU tailback. Could it be, now think OBJECTIVELY before you respond, that your hatred of BH allows you to look for situations where he slams the cats when he really doesn't? Could it be, that MSU didn't need to stop Robinson because of the a$$ kicking they were putting on NAU? Just thinking out loud boys, I know you hate BH but some of you are simply fishing for a complement and when it doesn't arrive it pisses you off...

MSU is in first place, you don't need comments from others to justify your place is the BSC standings. Front runners don't need to be told how good they are... :D



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Post by velochat » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:09 pm

bobby who? friz who?



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Post by Cat-theotherwhitemeat » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:09 pm

You guys are making me blush.... :oops:


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Post by profisme » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:10 pm

Hey Boz,

I agree with the assumption that Hauck may not always attempt to bash the Cats, but regardless, things like this are always left up to the observer, and when we Cat fans see something like this, an assumption is made based upon past comments. In my memory, as poor as that is, Hauck has never given the Cats nearly the amount of respect or props that Kramer has given the Griz. You may say that is because the Griz have been on top since Kramer got here and everyone wanted to knock them off and knew they were the best. That is possible, but Hauck is no longer on the absolute top, and he should recognize that and give credit where it is due.

I don't know of many Cats fans who hated Joe Glenn. He was a classy coach in my opinion and I feel that the Griz have suffered horrible losses on and off the field because of his departure. I have heard from many Griz fans how much they dislike Kramer even though he continually gives credit to the Griz and their great program. This is my take on it.



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Post by BozoneCat » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:19 pm

Bozgriz wrote:OK guys, now wait a second...I too watched the BH show last night and heard his comments regarding the NAU tailback. Could it be, now think OBJECTIVELY before you respond, that your hatred of BH allows you to look for situations where he slams the cats when he really doesn't? Could it be, that MSU didn't need to stop Robinson because of the a$$ kicking they were putting on NAU? Just thinking out loud boys, I know you hate BH but some of you are simply fishing for a complement and when it doesn't arrive it pisses you off...

MSU is in first place, you don't need comments from others to justify your place is the BSC standings. Front runners don't need to be told how good they are... :D
Agree with some points, but others are just being blind to the facts.

When asked by Katz (paraphrasing): "Wow, how about the whoopin' MSU put on NAU!?" Baby just responded with a blank face, thought a second, and changed the subject. He didn't even allow so much as a "Yeah, I couldn't believe that score - MSU really put it to them..."

Also, MSU did in fact have to stop Robinson - we weren't ahead by 53 the whole game. NAU still attempted many runs with Robinson all throughout the first half, but we just wouldn't let him have it. To go out of his way to say they were going to watch the Eastern game to see how they stopped Robinson was just another silent jab at us. In fact, he didn't mention one single word about MSU the whole show - sometimes sins of omission are just as bad as sins of commission.

Why do you guys insist on defending this guy??? I really just don't get it! I would be embarrassed if Coach Kramer acted like this!
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Post by Bozgriz » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:23 pm

BozoneCat wrote:
Bozgriz wrote:OK guys, now wait a second...I too watched the BH show last night and heard his comments regarding the NAU tailback. Could it be, now think OBJECTIVELY before you respond, that your hatred of BH allows you to look for situations where he slams the cats when he really doesn't? Could it be, that MSU didn't need to stop Robinson because of the a$$ kicking they were putting on NAU? Just thinking out loud boys, I know you hate BH but some of you are simply fishing for a complement and when it doesn't arrive it pisses you off...

MSU is in first place, you don't need comments from others to justify your place is the BSC standings. Front runners don't need to be told how good they are... :D
Agree with some points, but others are just being blind to the facts.


Why do you guys insist on defending this guy??? I really just don't get it! I would be embarrassed if Coach Kramer acted like this!

When asked by Katz (paraphrasing): "Wow, how about the whoopin' MSU put on NAU!?" Baby just responded with a blank face, thought a second, and changed the subject. He didn't even allow so much as a "Yeah, I couldn't believe that score - MSU really put it to them..."

Also, MSU did in fact have to stop Robinson - we weren't ahead by 53 the whole game. NAU still attempted many runs with Robinson all throughout the first half, but we just wouldn't let him have it. To go out of his way to say they were going to watch the Eastern game to see how they stopped Robinson was just another silent jab at us. In fact, he didn't mention one single word about MSU the whole show - sometimes sins of omission are just as bad as sins of commission.
Like I said before, if you are looking for a compliment from BH, you can be pretty sure it isn't coming...and I really have no problem with that. I am still waiting for the first compliment from Cliff Hysell toward the Griz as well!

And that is ok too... :P



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Post by velochat » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:24 pm

We should be happy if bh fails to be a sportsman, it makes our guy look even classier :D



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Post by Bozgriz » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:26 pm

Why do you guys insist on defending this guy??? I really just don't get it! I would be embarrassed if Coach Kramer acted like this!
Short memory for some cat folks...this guy openly slammed the neighborhood when he arrived! I'm pretty sure Tyler Thomas or Fahaz or the Salos and others have a different take on Coach K's behavior as well... :oops:
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Post by profisme » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:29 pm

As for Tyler Thomas's opinion of Coach Kramer, that should be included, but not regarded very highly. I have it on very high authority that very very respected members of the Cats were not very high on Thomas. I won't divulge as to whom this is, but suffice it to say that you would more than likely respect one of the person who I talked to about that.



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Post by BozoneCat » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:39 pm

Bozgriz wrote:Like I said before, if you are looking for a compliment from BH, you can be pretty sure it isn't coming...and I really have no problem with that. I am still waiting for the first compliment from Cliff Hysell toward the Griz as well!

And that is ok too... :P
Yeah, but Cliff isn't coach anymore. If you want to get into past coaches, I thought Read and Glenn were both pretty classy fellows, while Dennehy was an ass too.

Kramer may have had some in-house things that he would like to take back (maybe not, they seemed to work - besides, there was a hell of a lot that needed to be criticized about this program when Kramer came in), but this discussion is not about in-house matters. It has to do with what the coaches are saying/not saying about other schools, UM/MSU in particular. Last year prior to Cat-griz, Hauck couldn't even force himself to use Corey Smith's name, he just referred to him as "that return kid from State."


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Post by kmax » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:48 pm

BozoneCat wrote: Last year prior to Cat-griz, Hauck couldn't even force himself to use Corey Smith's name, he just referred to him as "that return kid from State."
Maybe Hauck actually didn't know his name? :shock: Could explain how we were up 7-0 after the first kickoff.


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Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:12 pm

kmax wrote:
BozoneCat wrote: Last year prior to Cat-griz, Hauck couldn't even force himself to use Corey Smith's name, he just referred to him as "that return kid from State."
Maybe Hauck actually didn't know his name? :shock: Could explain how we were up 7-0 after the first kickoff.
Yeah, remember ..... he told the Kicker to kick it away from the kid from State. :)


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Post by El_Gato » Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:48 pm

I, for one, don't want nor ever expect to hear a positive word come out of Bobby the Beak's pie hole regarding THE football team from THE Montana State University.

The problem is that his childish, arrogant antics are only going to lead to his firing that much sooner, which is bad news for Cat fans. If he were a classy, or even a decent guy, the griz would put up with his less-than-stellar coaching abilities a bit longer, say 1 or 2 extra seasons, than they will because he's a jerk. When they go 8-4 and out in the first round of the playoffs again this season, then 7-4 or 6-5 next year, my guess is it'll be "buh-bye Booby" because there's not nearly as much love for him in Marijuanaville as there would be if he had even a SHRED of class.


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