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3 Point Shooting

Post by CelticCat » Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:09 pm

Since the first Weber State win where we shot 33.3% from deep, which isn't great but I'd kill for it now, the team has shot just 29.2% and has shot 20% or worse 5 different times. This is a span of 10 games, so in HALF of our last 10 games we've failed to shoot 21% from deep.

I also wanted to see if we are on pace to be historically bad, and if the season ended today it would be the 5th worst shooting team from deep at MSU starting in 2000. The 2008 squad wins that with just 32% from deep (funnily enough that team went to the championship game and almost won, missing a 3 at the buzzer that would have won). But the 2004, 2020, 2019, and 2006 teams all shot the ball worse... but not much worse. We are at 33.1% for the season. The 2000 team shot a crazy 41.5% from deep.

It's also kind of funny that 3 of the worst 5 3 point shooting teams at MSU since 2000 are under Sprinkle, one of the best 3 point shooting players to ever suit up for the Cats.


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Re: 3 Point Shooting

Post by Camo_Cat » Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:59 pm

Many moons ago, I had a good friend I went to high school with who played for a few seasons for the Cats. Guys was a great shot - could put it up from anywhere. He told me that the Brick is a very tough place to play ball for shooters. He talked about how wide open of a venue the Brick is, and it doesn't provide as good of a backdrop for shooting as other small, more tightly enclosed arenas. The crowds are further away, the walls are further away, etc. He said it really messes with your depth perception as a shooter.

I don't know if that's the case, and I am definitely not trying to make any excuses for our team's shooting right now, because our guys are really struggling. But I thought it was interesting take nonetheless....



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Re: 3 Point Shooting

Post by Camo_Cat » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:06 pm

Camo_Cat wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:59 pm
Many moons ago, I had a good friend I went to high school with who played for a few seasons for the Cats. Guys was a great shot - could put it up from anywhere. He told me that the Brick is a very tough place to play ball for shooters. He talked about how wide open of a venue the Brick is, and it doesn't provide as good of a backdrop for shooting as other small, more tightly enclosed arenas. The crowds are further away, the walls are further away, etc. He said it really messes with your depth perception as a shooter.

I don't know if that's the case, and I am definitely not trying to make any excuses for our team's shooting right now, because our guys are really struggling. But I thought it was an interesting take nonetheless....



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Re: 3 Point Shooting

Post by Montanabob » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:20 pm

Camo_Cat wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:06 pm
Camo_Cat wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:59 pm
Many moons ago, I had a good friend I went to high school with who played for a few seasons for the Cats. Guys was a great shot - could put it up from anywhere. He told me that the Brick is a very tough place to play ball for shooters. He talked about how wide open of a venue the Brick is, and it doesn't provide as good of a backdrop for shooting as other small, more tightly enclosed arenas. The crowds are further away, the walls are further away, etc. He said it really messes with your depth perception as a shooter.

I don't know if that's the case, and I am definitely not trying to make any excuses for our team's shooting right now, because our guys are really struggling. But I thought it was an interesting take nonetheless....
I bet he would have loved playing in the crackerbox at Lewistown St. Leo's gym. Spectators sat in balcony on the side up above the floor. Walls were out of bounds by about a foot.


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Re: 3 Point Shooting

Post by Helcat72 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:04 pm

CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:09 pm
Since the first Weber State win where we shot 33.3% from deep, which isn't great but I'd kill for it now, the team has shot just 29.2% and has shot 20% or worse 5 different times. This is a span of 10 games, so in HALF of our last 10 games we've failed to shoot 21% from deep.

I also wanted to see if we are on pace to be historically bad, and if the season ended today it would be the 5th worst shooting team from deep at MSU starting in 2000. The 2008 squad wins that with just 32% from deep (funnily enough that team went to the championship game and almost won, missing a 3 at the buzzer that would have won). But the 2004, 2020, 2019, and 2006 teams all shot the ball worse... but not much worse. We are at 33.1% for the season. The 2000 team shot a crazy 41.5% from deep.

It's also kind of funny that 3 of the worst 5 3 point shooting teams at MSU since 2000 are under Sprinkle, one of the best 3 point shooting players to ever suit up for the Cats.
Shows you that you can live AND die by the 3...but you can always take it inside if you have the players and win. That's why you hardly ever see a good 3 point shooting team who doesn't have an inside threat make it to championship games.
Doesn't mean the Cats have to take it to a ridiculous level to prove a point. Lol


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Re: 3 Point Shooting

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:18 am

Camo_Cat wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:59 pm
Many moons ago, I had a good friend I went to high school with who played for a few seasons for the Cats. Guys was a great shot - could put it up from anywhere. He told me that the Brick is a very tough place to play ball for shooters. He talked about how wide open of a venue the Brick is, and it doesn't provide as good of a backdrop for shooting as other small, more tightly enclosed arenas. The crowds are further away, the walls are further away, etc. He said it really messes with your depth perception as a shooter.

I don't know if that's the case, and I am definitely not trying to make any excuses for our team's shooting right now, because our guys are really struggling. But I thought it was interesting take nonetheless....
It’s true — but more true I would think if you are not used to playing there. When intramural, PE class tournaments and Saturday morning rat ball used the main court I played there many times. I thought it was the greatest place to shoot ever — but the perspective seemed odd compared to other courts on campus and even the Bozeman Hawks court. To me, the basket seemed high, and also further away. Warming up, shots were consistently long until I got calibrated. Then I thought that bright orange rim with no distractions was the best ever. I’ve not been surprised how visiting teams, both men’s and women’s, so often really light up the Brick with their three-point shooting early in games.



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