UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Discuss anything and everything relating to Bobcat Basketball here.

Moderators: rtb, kmax, SonomaCat

Post Reply
User avatar
RICO CAT
Honorable Mention All-BobcatNation
Posts: 786
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:36 pm

UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by RICO CAT » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:49 am

Hope they don’t come snooping around our program again.


“OVER THEM MOUNTAINS”

User avatar
kennethnoisewater
BobcatNation Hall of Famer
Posts: 3955
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:41 pm
Location: Kalispell, MT

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by kennethnoisewater » Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:16 pm

I don't know if they'd sniff around MSU or not, but even outside of this I think this firing is relevant to MT basketball fans. Lindsay Wooley was Western's head coach for the last few years and got lured away to Logan for the Assistant job there. It will be interesting to see if he's a candidate there, but that seems like a long-shot to me. A lot of people (myself included) thought it was an interesting move for Wooley to take that job, since most thought that head coach wasn't going to last in Logan. Some have even speculated that Western hired Britt Cooper, a young and pretty inexperienced coach, because they would be able to give the job right back to Wooley if he got fired after one season.


Image

MSU01
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 9935
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:21 pm

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by MSU01 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:40 pm

I don't think we need to worry too much here, the last USU women's coach was making 213K and Binford's salary when she signed her new contract in 2022 was 186K. Nowhere near the massive gap in compensation that made the USU men's job an offer Danny couldn't refuse.



User avatar
Bobcat4Ever
BobcatNation Hall of Famer
Posts: 3964
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:26 pm
Location: Bozeman --> Nevada

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:06 am

Trish Binford came to us from Utah State. No need for her to return.



aucat
1st Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1669
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:13 am

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by aucat » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am

Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.



User avatar
kennethnoisewater
BobcatNation Hall of Famer
Posts: 3955
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:41 pm
Location: Kalispell, MT

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:30 am

aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
But it makes you wonder how long they can keep Holsinger there. It does seem like they're able to keep coaches as long as they want them. When's the last time a gris football or basketball coach moved up for a better job? Tinkle? They might be due. Maybe USU poaches the other guys this time around.


Image

MSU01
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 9935
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:21 pm

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by MSU01 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:45 am

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:30 am
aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
But it makes you wonder how long they can keep Holsinger there. It does seem like they're able to keep coaches as long as they want them. When's the last time a gris football or basketball coach moved up for a better job? Tinkle? They might be due. Maybe USU poaches the other guys this time around.
They've lost a lot of coaches to upward moves over the years. Joe Glenn and Bobby Hauck 1.0 in football, Larry K and Tinkle more recently in basketball with guys like Mike Montgomery and Stew Morill before them. It's one of the reasons why they were so dominant in the Big Sky Conference for so long. Consistently make great coaching hires and you'll have a lot of success, but you just have to realize that it's part of the business that the more success a coach has at the Big Sky level the greater the chances become that they'll get an offer from a bigger school. They of course got lucky with Robin Selvig being there for decades, similar to how MSU has gotten lucky with Tricia Binford who seems content to stay at MSU and not chase after bigger jobs. DeCuire seems to be happy there as well, although one could argue that he missed his chance to move up and is no longer quite the "hot name" he once was as UM has been down for a few years compared to where they have been historically.



User avatar
kennethnoisewater
BobcatNation Hall of Famer
Posts: 3955
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:41 pm
Location: Kalispell, MT

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:53 am

MSU01 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:45 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:30 am
aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
But it makes you wonder how long they can keep Holsinger there. It does seem like they're able to keep coaches as long as they want them. When's the last time a gris football or basketball coach moved up for a better job? Tinkle? They might be due. Maybe USU poaches the other guys this time around.
They've lost a lot of coaches to upward moves over the years. Joe Glenn and Bobby Hauck 1.0 in football, Larry K and Tinkle more recently in basketball with guys like Mike Montgomery and Stew Morill before them. It's one of the reasons why they were so dominant in the Big Sky Conference for so long. Consistently make great coaching hires and you'll have a lot of success, but you just have to realize that it's part of the business that the more success a coach has at the Big Sky level the greater the chances become that they'll get an offer from a bigger school. They of course got lucky with Robin Selvig being there for decades, similar to how MSU has gotten lucky with Tricia Binford who seems content to stay at MSU and not chase after bigger jobs. DeCuire seems to be happy there as well, although one could argue that he missed his chance to move up and is no longer quite the "hot name" he once was as UM has been down for a few years compared to where they have been historically.
Right, that's what I'm saying though. It's been a while, unlike MSU. Tinkle left 10 years ago this summer.


Image

User avatar
DMMDCats
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:21 pm
Location: in a very unimportant part of the galaxy
Contact:

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by DMMDCats » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:59 am

The basis for this thread is hilarious.

And the shouting all caps headline, like she was the first coach ever fired.

Hahahahhahhsahhahhaha

(Derogatory statement removed)


Hahhhahahaha

God, I am one that would love to see Coach Bin get the opportunity, if she so chooses.


It don’t matter

MSU01
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 9935
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:21 pm

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by MSU01 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:00 am

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:53 am
MSU01 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:45 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:30 am
aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
But it makes you wonder how long they can keep Holsinger there. It does seem like they're able to keep coaches as long as they want them. When's the last time a gris football or basketball coach moved up for a better job? Tinkle? They might be due. Maybe USU poaches the other guys this time around.
They've lost a lot of coaches to upward moves over the years. Joe Glenn and Bobby Hauck 1.0 in football, Larry K and Tinkle more recently in basketball with guys like Mike Montgomery and Stew Morill before them. It's one of the reasons why they were so dominant in the Big Sky Conference for so long. Consistently make great coaching hires and you'll have a lot of success, but you just have to realize that it's part of the business that the more success a coach has at the Big Sky level the greater the chances become that they'll get an offer from a bigger school. They of course got lucky with Robin Selvig being there for decades, similar to how MSU has gotten lucky with Tricia Binford who seems content to stay at MSU and not chase after bigger jobs. DeCuire seems to be happy there as well, although one could argue that he missed his chance to move up and is no longer quite the "hot name" he once was as UM has been down for a few years compared to where they have been historically.
Right, that's what I'm saying though. It's been a while, unlike MSU. Tinkle left 10 years ago this summer.
Very true, it has been a while. I'd argue that it's less because they've done a good job of retaining their coaches and more because the coaches they've had haven't won enough games consistently to attract the interest of other schools. Perhaps that will change with Holsinger.



User avatar
kennethnoisewater
BobcatNation Hall of Famer
Posts: 3955
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:41 pm
Location: Kalispell, MT

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:14 am

MSU01 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:00 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:53 am
MSU01 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:45 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:30 am
aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
But it makes you wonder how long they can keep Holsinger there. It does seem like they're able to keep coaches as long as they want them. When's the last time a gris football or basketball coach moved up for a better job? Tinkle? They might be due. Maybe USU poaches the other guys this time around.
They've lost a lot of coaches to upward moves over the years. Joe Glenn and Bobby Hauck 1.0 in football, Larry K and Tinkle more recently in basketball with guys like Mike Montgomery and Stew Morill before them. It's one of the reasons why they were so dominant in the Big Sky Conference for so long. Consistently make great coaching hires and you'll have a lot of success, but you just have to realize that it's part of the business that the more success a coach has at the Big Sky level the greater the chances become that they'll get an offer from a bigger school. They of course got lucky with Robin Selvig being there for decades, similar to how MSU has gotten lucky with Tricia Binford who seems content to stay at MSU and not chase after bigger jobs. DeCuire seems to be happy there as well, although one could argue that he missed his chance to move up and is no longer quite the "hot name" he once was as UM has been down for a few years compared to where they have been historically.
Right, that's what I'm saying though. It's been a while, unlike MSU. Tinkle left 10 years ago this summer.
Very true, it has been a while. I'd argue that it's less because they've done a good job of retaining their coaches and more because the coaches they've had haven't won enough games consistently to attract the interest of other schools. Perhaps that will change with Holsinger.
Exactly. Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I just think anybody who has success at this level is going to want to move up. Holsinger isn't a Montana guy, and he's in his late 40's. He doesn't have time to waste if he wants to go make a bag of money somewhere. It's going to be interesting to see, because I think in 3-4 years, there will be about a dozen MT girls playing Division I basketball. I'd love to see MSU poised to get the majority of them!


Image

imacat
1st Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1930
Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:23 am

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by imacat » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:10 pm

aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
It depends on how you look at it, I think. I would take this years Bobcat team at full strength over the gris at full strength. That is not the way it is of course.



User avatar
DMMDCats
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:21 pm
Location: in a very unimportant part of the galaxy
Contact:

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by DMMDCats » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:31 pm

Loved the Coaches last press conference.


It don’t matter

User avatar
AFCAT
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 13363
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:25 pm

Re: UTAH STATE FIRES WOMENS COACH

Post by AFCAT » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:24 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:45 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:30 am
aucat wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:07 am
Some of USU's losses this year have been more than embarrassing. No surprise here. I think the main concern that Coach Binford has right now is getting our program back up to competing for championships and the guy over at UM appears to really be doing a good job. It's going to be tough staying ahead of them. This is the first year in quite some time that I would say that UM has a better women's team than MSU.
But it makes you wonder how long they can keep Holsinger there. It does seem like they're able to keep coaches as long as they want them. When's the last time a gris football or basketball coach moved up for a better job? Tinkle? They might be due. Maybe USU poaches the other guys this time around.
They've lost a lot of coaches to upward moves over the years. Joe Glenn and Bobby Hauck 1.0 in football, Larry K and Tinkle more recently in basketball with guys like Mike Montgomery and Stew Morill before them. It's one of the reasons why they were so dominant in the Big Sky Conference for so long. Consistently make great coaching hires and you'll have a lot of success, but you just have to realize that it's part of the business that the more success a coach has at the Big Sky level the greater the chances become that they'll get an offer from a bigger school. They of course got lucky with Robin Selvig being there for decades, similar to how MSU has gotten lucky with Tricia Binford who seems content to stay at MSU and not chase after bigger jobs. DeCuire seems to be happy there as well, although one could argue that he missed his chance to move up and is no longer quite the "hot name" he once was as UM has been down for a few years compared to where they have been historically.
One thing that’s baffled me with all the dumb head football coaches that moved up. I don’t believe a single one of them had a winning record after leaving Missoula.


QB Club https://www.msubqc.org
Bobcat Collective https://bobcatcollective.com/

Bobcat athletics is a business to the coaches, school leadership, and players. It's time the fans treat Bobcat athletics as a business too.

Post Reply