MBB vs Sac State

[MSU01]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

And sometimes simple randomness and luck plays a role. You can have great positioning for a rebound but sometimes the ball will just take an unusual bounce off the rim and go straight to the guy on the other team. Some games the luck aspect of rebounding will go in your favor, sometimes it will go towards the other team.

Correct. If you don’t factor in randomness in rebounding you’re going to get very frustrated. Rebounding isn’t simply about boxing out. No matter what whenever there’s an offensive rebound in a basketball game there’s always fans screaming “BOX OUT” at the top of their lungs as if that’s why every offensive rebound has ever occurred.

BOX OUT is fun, but I prefer the fan who always yells GET THE REBOUND as though that will help. Is that fan me sometimes? No comment.

[BelgradeBobcat]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

And sometimes simple randomness and luck plays a role. You can have great positioning for a rebound but sometimes the ball will just take an unusual bounce off the rim and go straight to the guy on the other team. Some games the luck aspect of rebounding will go in your favor, sometimes it will go towards the other team.

Correct. If you don’t factor in randomness in rebounding you’re going to get very frustrated. Rebounding isn’t simply about boxing out. No matter what whenever there’s an offensive rebound in a basketball game there’s always fans screaming “BOX OUT” at the top of their lungs as if that’s why every offensive rebound has ever occurred.

BOX OUT is fun, but I prefer the fan who always yells GET THE REBOUND as though that will help. Is that fan me sometimes? No comment.

The play that drove me crazy was when Sac State's point guard, the shortest guy on the court, missed a free throw. It bounced out to the left and said shooter just casually ran it down. I was always coached that somebody has to box out the shooter-always!!! You talk about it before the shot is up-I got the shooter-or you got the shooter...

[rfischer94]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

And sometimes simple randomness and luck plays a role. You can have great positioning for a rebound but sometimes the ball will just take an unusual bounce off the rim and go straight to the guy on the other team. Some games the luck aspect of rebounding will go in your favor, sometimes it will go towards the other team.

Correct. If you don’t factor in randomness in rebounding you’re going to get very frustrated. Rebounding isn’t simply about boxing out. No matter what whenever there’s an offensive rebound in a basketball game there’s always fans screaming “BOX OUT” at the top of their lungs as if that’s why every offensive rebound has ever occurred.

I may be one of those fans... Thanks for the input.

[rfischer94]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

And sometimes simple randomness and luck plays a role. You can have great positioning for a rebound but sometimes the ball will just take an unusual bounce off the rim and go straight to the guy on the other team. Some games the luck aspect of rebounding will go in your favor, sometimes it will go towards the other team.

Correct. If you don’t factor in randomness in rebounding you’re going to get very frustrated. Rebounding isn’t simply about boxing out. No matter what whenever there’s an offensive rebound in a basketball game there’s always fans screaming “BOX OUT” at the top of their lungs as if that’s why every offensive rebound has ever occurred.

BOX OUT is fun, but I prefer the fan who always yells GET THE REBOUND as though that will help. Is that fan me sometimes? No comment.

The play that drove me crazy was when Sac State's point guard, the shortest guy on the court, missed a free throw. It bounced out to the left and said shooter just casually ran it down. I was always coached that somebody has to box out the shooter-always!!! You talk about it before the shot is up-I got the shooter-or you got the shooter...

I rewatched that play a couple times. Patterson tried to box him out but didn't manage to contain him.

[msu_agfan]

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BOX OUT is fun, but I prefer the fan who always yells GET THE REBOUND as though that will help. Is that fan me sometimes? No comment.
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We listen and we dont judge..

I know i've been guilty of occasionally yelling out "Follow your shot!" Even though i know sometimes it is the teams strategy to just get back on D..

How about other arm chair/ bleacher statements?
I got one more... "Bend your knees!" (when the free throws arent going down) haha.

[tetoncat]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

And sometimes simple randomness and luck plays a role. You can have great positioning for a rebound but sometimes the ball will just take an unusual bounce off the rim and go straight to the guy on the other team. Some games the luck aspect of rebounding will go in your favor, sometimes it will go towards the other team.

Correct. If you don’t factor in randomness in rebounding you’re going to get very frustrated. Rebounding isn’t simply about boxing out. No matter what whenever there’s an offensive rebound in a basketball game there’s always fans screaming “BOX OUT” at the top of their lungs as if that’s why every offensive rebound has ever occurred.

There is randomness play to play but over a whole game that should even out somewhat. If you are losing the battle by 5 or 10 or more the randomness isn't the reason. It could be shooting % of either team, a team that shoots a lot of 3s since it creates long rebounds many times.

[BobcatDel]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

It’s uncanny the knack good rebounders have….sure blocking out and following shots are good factors…and hustle and muscle….but sometimes they just know where to position themselves based on the shot and with speed and athleticism they are in an area to get a rebound. Robert Ford led the team in rebounding last year and was often the shortest guy on the floor. Darian White led the women in rebounding several years she was here and again was the shortest on the floor most of the time. It’s a “want to” factor also…. The Ford and White are just examples of the small folks that can rebound but on the other side center/forward Jack Gillespie I believe still holds the all-time rebound record at MSU and that’s over 60 years ago and he only played varsity 3 years and on the women’s side Kathleen McLaughlin’s rebound record still stands over 35 years. Gillespie was tall but he appeared to sense where ball was going and unfortunately I was out of the country and never got to see McLaughlin.

But there is no doubt that some teams/coaches focus more on the fundamentals of good rebounding and it shows in the stats and the extra possessions they get as a team.

[WalkOn79]

I've seen this team win the glass, and when they do, they're formidable. Why are they so good at rebounding sometimes and terrible at others?

A lot of times it is matchups. Might be height, athleticism or scheme of opponents. But rebounding is also a lot about effort.

And sometimes simple randomness and luck plays a role. You can have great positioning for a rebound but sometimes the ball will just take an unusual bounce off the rim and go straight to the guy on the other team. Some games the luck aspect of rebounding will go in your favor, sometimes it will go towards the other team.

Correct. If you don’t factor in randomness in rebounding you’re going to get very frustrated. Rebounding isn’t simply about boxing out. No matter what whenever there’s an offensive rebound in a basketball game there’s always fans screaming “BOX OUT” at the top of their lungs as if that’s why every offensive rebound has ever occurred.

BOX OUT is fun, but I prefer the fan who always yells GET THE REBOUND as though that will help. Is that fan me sometimes? No comment.