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technoCat
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by technoCat » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm
superbobcat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:23 am
Against Idaho we were pounding it inside and then getting kick out 3's. Didn't see that against EWU. Not enough emphasis in basketball in general on the kick out 3. It sets the shooter up so much better.
FT's killed us. Oofda!
I remember us missing a lot of very makeable if not wide open 3s. Not to mention bunnies inside. The fact we kept it close was crazy with the FT and rebound discrepancies...
I just really wish we seemed to have the home advantage in bb that everyone else seems to have. Everything just looks hard. Maybe it's just me. I'll take the blame for getting to my first game of the year and throwing off their mojo...
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by Helcat72 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:48 pm
Team has to learn to function with a target on their back. Just like the women. It's been a long time since we had to do it.
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by Bobcat4Ever » Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:00 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I swear if I was a coach I think being able to shoot at LEAST 70% (preferably 80%) from the FT line would be a prerequisite for earning a scholarship. Heck when I played I could consistently shoot 90%. To me if you are a basketball player you need to be able to consistently make FTs. That's why they are called FREE throws! A lot of it has to do with concentration. EWU's team made their first 18 FTs last night.
The MSU women’s team ran off a whole bunch at EWU last night before they missed. No reason to miss in The Brick, despite the name. It’s a great shooters venue. Back when time was young, we played a lot of PE class, intramural, and pickup games in the Fieldhouse. Those bright orange rims against a pretty dark backdrop even with the stands (because the sight line slopes up) made it my favorite place to shoot ever. I’ve never been surprised when visiting teams light it up.
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by BobcatDel » Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:44 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm
superbobcat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:23 am
Against Idaho we were pounding it inside and then getting kick out 3's. Didn't see that against EWU. Not enough emphasis in basketball in general on the kick out 3. It sets the shooter up so much better.
FT's killed us. Oofda!
I remember us missing a lot of very makeable if not wide open 3s. Not to mention bunnies inside. The fact we kept it close was crazy with the FT and rebound discrepancies...
I just really wish we seemed to have the home advantage in bb that everyone else seems to have. Everything just looks hard. Maybe it's just me. I'll take the blame for getting to my first game of the year and throwing off their mojo...
Kinda curious what “home advantage” looks like to you. Yeah this game was a bummer and we couldn’t seem to pull it together. But we had won something like 15 games in a row at home and counting the spring season we had not lost at home in all of 2022.

. Just seems like a pretty good home advantage to me.
I can go pull the women stats but too lazy. They had a similar string going into last spring.
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by technoCat » Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:59 pm
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:44 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm
superbobcat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:23 am
Against Idaho we were pounding it inside and then getting kick out 3's. Didn't see that against EWU. Not enough emphasis in basketball in general on the kick out 3. It sets the shooter up so much better.
FT's killed us. Oofda!
I remember us missing a lot of very makeable if not wide open 3s. Not to mention bunnies inside. The fact we kept it close was crazy with the FT and rebound discrepancies...
I just really wish we seemed to have the home advantage in bb that everyone else seems to have. Everything just looks hard. Maybe it's just me. I'll take the blame for getting to my first game of the year and throwing off their mojo...
Kinda curious what “home advantage” looks like to you. Yeah this game was a bummer and we couldn’t seem to pull it together. But we had won something like 15 games in a row at home and counting the spring season we had not lost at home in all of 2022.

. Just seems like a pretty good home advantage to me.
I can go pull the women stats but too lazy. They had a similar string going into last spring.
I mean every time I go to a home game we make it 10 times harder than we need to and other teams seem to play out of their minds and we need heroics to win. I don't know if I've ever seen the Cats get a comfortable wire to wire win at home. Maybe I just have really horrible timing!

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by BobcatDel » Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:34 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:59 pm
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:44 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm
superbobcat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:23 am
Against Idaho we were pounding it inside and then getting kick out 3's. Didn't see that against EWU. Not enough emphasis in basketball in general on the kick out 3. It sets the shooter up so much better.
FT's killed us. Oofda!
I remember us missing a lot of very makeable if not wide open 3s. Not to mention bunnies inside. The fact we kept it close was crazy with the FT and rebound discrepancies...
I just really wish we seemed to have the home advantage in bb that everyone else seems to have. Everything just looks hard. Maybe it's just me. I'll take the blame for getting to my first game of the year and throwing off their mojo...
Kinda curious what “home advantage” looks like to you. Yeah this game was a bummer and we couldn’t seem to pull it together. But we had won something like 15 games in a row at home and counting the spring season we had not lost at home in all of 2022.

. Just seems like a pretty good home advantage to me.
I can go pull the women stats but too lazy. They had a similar string going into last spring.
I mean every time I go to a home game we make it 10 times harder than we need to and other teams seem to play out of their minds and we need heroics to win. I don't know if I've ever seen the Cats get a comfortable wire to wire win at home. Maybe I just have really horrible timing!
I got ya….boy in the spring season we had 3 or 4 two point home games late in season…who can forget Battle from the logo to beat Northern Colorado near close of season. A “comfortable win” to me is more like 20 points up with a minute to go….more like Thursday game against Idaho.
But just to provide some comfort to the phrase “there is no place like home”.
WBB is currently 4-1 at home.
WBB last season was 14-2 at home, 6-9 away.
MBB is currently 5-1 at home.
MBB last season was 13-1 at home and 9-6 away.
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by BobcatDel » Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:47 pm
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:34 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:59 pm
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:44 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm
superbobcat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:23 am
Against Idaho we were pounding it inside and then getting kick out 3's. Didn't see that against EWU. Not enough emphasis in basketball in general on the kick out 3. It sets the shooter up so much better.
FT's killed us. Oofda!
I remember us missing a lot of very makeable if not wide open 3s. Not to mention bunnies inside. The fact we kept it close was crazy with the FT and rebound discrepancies...
I just really wish we seemed to have the home advantage in bb that everyone else seems to have. Everything just looks hard. Maybe it's just me. I'll take the blame for getting to my first game of the year and throwing off their mojo...
Kinda curious what “home advantage” looks like to you. Yeah this game was a bummer and we couldn’t seem to pull it together. But we had won something like 15 games in a row at home and counting the spring season we had not lost at home in all of 2022.

. Just seems like a pretty good home advantage to me.
I can go pull the women stats but too lazy. They had a similar string going into last spring.
I mean every time I go to a home game we make it 10 times harder than we need to and other teams seem to play out of their minds and we need heroics to win. I don't know if I've ever seen the Cats get a comfortable wire to wire win at home. Maybe I just have really horrible timing!
I got ya….boy in the spring season we had 3 or 4 two point home games late in season…who can forget Battle from the logo to beat Northern Colorado near close of season. A “comfortable win” to me is more like 20 points up with a minute to go….more like Thursday game against Idaho.
But just to provide some comfort to the phrase “there is no place like home”.
WBB is currently 4-1 at home.
WBB last season was 14-2 at home, 6-9 away, 5-1 neutral
MBB is currently 5-1 at home.
MBB last season was 13-1 at home and 9-6 away, 3-1 neutral
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by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:30 am
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:44 pm
technoCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm
superbobcat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:23 am
Against Idaho we were pounding it inside and then getting kick out 3's. Didn't see that against EWU. Not enough emphasis in basketball in general on the kick out 3. It sets the shooter up so much better.
FT's killed us. Oofda!
I remember us missing a lot of very makeable if not wide open 3s. Not to mention bunnies inside. The fact we kept it close was crazy with the FT and rebound discrepancies...
I just really wish we seemed to have the home advantage in bb that everyone else seems to have. Everything just looks hard. Maybe it's just me. I'll take the blame for getting to my first game of the year and throwing off their mojo...
Kinda curious what “home advantage” looks like to you. Yeah this game was a bummer and we couldn’t seem to pull it together. But we had won something like 15 games in a row at home and counting the spring season we had not lost at home in all of 2022.

. Just seems like a pretty good home advantage to me.
I can go pull the women stats but too lazy. They had a similar string going into last spring.
The women’s team a couple years ago ran their home winning streak to 30 or 31 — they were second only to Geno and UConn. And they had a four-game streak in there when they averaged something over 100 points per game. They absolutely detonated a few conference teams, including the Lady Gris. Those were certainly comfortable wins. Rarely is a Big Sky team just steamrolling people. Most victories, at home or away, are hard fought. Eastern Washington may just be a bit better than we are, at least right now. They certainly have established themselves as a team to beat.
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by msu_agfan » Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:03 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I was a bit amazed there were no cheerleaders... They seem to want to claim athlete status, so show up for home games..
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by Cataholic » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:26 pm
msu_agfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:03 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I was a bit amazed there were no cheerleaders... They seem to want to claim athlete status, so show up for home games..
Do you have any idea how much time those cheerleaders put into the program? They do all football and many other sports, including men’s and women’s. Their pregame routine for football games actually start 5 hours before kickoff. They report to school weeks before students and train 8 hours a day. This isn’t high school cheerleading. These college kids deserve athlete status. Instead they get a small stipend and basically have to purchase their equipment.
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by BobcatDel » Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:09 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:26 pm
msu_agfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:03 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I was a bit amazed there were no cheerleaders... They seem to want to claim athlete status, so show up for home games..
Do you have any idea how much time those cheerleaders put into the program? They do all football and many other sports, including men’s and women’s. Their pregame routine for football games actually start 5 hours before kickoff. They report to school weeks before students and train 8 hours a day. This isn’t high school cheerleading. These college kids deserve athlete status. Instead they get a small stipend and basically have to purchase their equipment.
Cheerleaders are students. School is not in session. Students are not back yet. They deserve the break!
I enjoy presence of cheer squads and the band. They bring a lot to the games. But it’s break time and I’m not quibbling their absence.
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by BelgradeBobcat » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:49 am
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:09 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:26 pm
msu_agfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:03 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I was a bit amazed there were no cheerleaders... They seem to want to claim athlete status, so show up for home games..
Do you have any idea how much time those cheerleaders put into the program? They do all football and many other sports, including men’s and women’s. Their pregame routine for football games actually start 5 hours before kickoff. They report to school weeks before students and train 8 hours a day. This isn’t high school cheerleading. These college kids deserve athlete status. Instead they get a small stipend and basically have to purchase their equipment.
Cheerleaders are students. School is not in session. Students are not back yet. They deserve the break!
I enjoy presence of cheer squads and the band. They bring a lot to the games. But it’s break time and I’m not quibbling their absence.
The only way the cheerleaders would have helped against EWU was if they were allowed to shoot free throws. I have no doubt they would have done better than the team did on that day.
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by 91catAlum » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:09 pm
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:49 am
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:09 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:26 pm
msu_agfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:03 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I was a bit amazed there were no cheerleaders... They seem to want to claim athlete status, so show up for home games..
Do you have any idea how much time those cheerleaders put into the program? They do all football and many other sports, including men’s and women’s. Their pregame routine for football games actually start 5 hours before kickoff. They report to school weeks before students and train 8 hours a day. This isn’t high school cheerleading. These college kids deserve athlete status. Instead they get a small stipend and basically have to purchase their equipment.
Cheerleaders are students. School is not in session. Students are not back yet. They deserve the break!
I enjoy presence of cheer squads and the band. They bring a lot to the games. But it’s break time and I’m not quibbling their absence.
The only way the cheerleaders would have helped against EWU was if they were allowed to shoot free throws. I have no doubt they would have done better than the team did on that day.
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by RickRund » Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:47 pm
91catAlum wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:09 pm
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:49 am
BobcatDel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:09 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:26 pm
msu_agfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:03 pm
aucat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:38 am
Reminded me of last year when we played the griz at home right after our NC football game in Frisco. No students, band, Champ. Crowd was dead considering we were playing UM. But we prevailed.
Not last night though. It's a shame that we had to play one of the best, if not THE best teams in the Big Sky with no students, no band, no Champ.
EWU just came in and swept both Montana teams. As an old time basketball fan I truly admire teams that can shoot the basketball.
I was a bit amazed there were no cheerleaders... They seem to want to claim athlete status, so show up for home games..
Do you have any idea how much time those cheerleaders put into the program? They do all football and many other sports, including men’s and women’s. Their pregame routine for football games actually start 5 hours before kickoff. They report to school weeks before students and train 8 hours a day. This isn’t high school cheerleading. These college kids deserve athlete status. Instead they get a small stipend and basically have to purchase their equipment.
Cheerleaders are students. School is not in session. Students are not back yet. They deserve the break!
I enjoy presence of cheer squads and the band. They bring a lot to the games. But it’s break time and I’m not quibbling their absence.
The only way the cheerleaders would have helped against EWU was if they were allowed to shoot free throws. I have no doubt they would have done better than the team did on that day.
I laughed
Me too...
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by Bobcat4Ever » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:31 pm
We really must work on our free throw defense. It’s hard to win getting outshot like that. If they held us under 50%, then we need to be able to return the favor. Giving up nearly 100% at home is outrageous. Who are our best free throw line defenders?
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by grizzh8r » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:02 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:31 pm
We really must work on our free throw defense. It’s hard to win getting outshot like that. If they held us under 50%, then we need to be able to return the favor. Giving up nearly 100% at home is outrageous. Who are our best free throw line defenders?
Heard of a recent transfer into the program. Goes by the name of Knott Fowling. Heard he is excellent at free throw line defense.
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by BobcatDel » Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:19 am
grizzh8r wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:02 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:31 pm
We really must work on our free throw defense. It’s hard to win getting outshot like that. If they held us under 50%, then we need to be able to return the favor. Giving up nearly 100% at home is outrageous. Who are our best free throw line defenders?
Heard of a recent transfer into the program. Goes by the name of Knott Fowling. Heard he is excellent at free throw line defense.
Good one. And he’s got 3 years left to play! Probably was offered some NIL money from a berry farm or pheasants to eternity and beyond!
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by Bobcat4Ever » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:32 pm
grizzh8r wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:02 pm
Bobcat4Ever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:31 pm
We really must work on our free throw defense. It’s hard to win getting outshot like that. If they held us under 50%, then we need to be able to return the favor. Giving up nearly 100% at home is outrageous. Who are our best free throw line defenders?
Heard of a recent transfer into the program. Goes by the name of Knott Fowling. Heard he is excellent at free throw line defense.
I love it! We could use him. Happy to have him on board. Thanks.

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by RickRund » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:48 pm
Sounds like an outstanding pick-up.
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