WBB National Ranking

[MSU01]

#51 in today's NET ranking up from #53.

Now only one spot behind Stanford at #50! I've been waiting for MSU to pass them, we've come a long way since three years ago when they destroyed the Bobcats in the NCAA Tournament game. And they've dropped way off this year with the retirement of Tara Vanderveer.

[Bobcat4Ever]

The final NCAA web site Bracket Prediction gives MSU a 13 seed against Ole Miss. FGCU and Grand Canyon are in the 12 seeds, along with UNLV and Ball State. That loss to Sacramento State was not beneficial.

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5       Maryland	Kansas State	Alabama	Tennessee
12	Grand Canyon	FGCU	UNLV	Ball State
 	 	 	 	 
4	Ole Miss	Ohio State	Baylor	North Carolina
13	Montana State	Fairfield	Missouri State	South Florida

[lutecat]

The final NCAA web site Bracket Prediction gives MSU a 13 seed against Ole Miss. FGCU and Grand Canyon are in the 12 seeds, along with UNLV and Ball State. That loss to Sacramento State was not beneficial.

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5       Maryland	Kansas State	Alabama	Tennessee
12	Grand Canyon	FGCU	UNLV	Ball State
 	 	 	 	 
4	Ole Miss	Ohio State	Baylor	North Carolina
13	Montana State	Fairfield	Missouri State	South Florida

So that means we would play at ol miss correct?

[MSU01]

The final NCAA web site Bracket Prediction gives MSU a 13 seed against Ole Miss. FGCU and Grand Canyon are in the 12 seeds, along with UNLV and Ball State. That loss to Sacramento State was not beneficial.

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5       Maryland	Kansas State	Alabama	Tennessee
12	Grand Canyon	FGCU	UNLV	Ball State
 	 	 	 	 
4	Ole Miss	Ohio State	Baylor	North Carolina
13	Montana State	Fairfield	Missouri State	South Florida

One of the 12 seeds in this bracket has already lost last night (UNLV) and the two finalists in the MWC, San Diego State and Wyoming, are both well behind MSU in the Net Rankings. FGCU also plays their championship game tomorrow and Ball State (MAC) and Grand Canyon (WAC) haven't yet started their tournaments. A loss by any of these teams bumps MSU up a spot on the seeding list if they aren't already ahead of those teams in the committee's rankings.

I think MSU is solidly on the 12/13 "bubble" right now although hopefully the committee already has them solidly at a 12. I still don't like seeing FGCU above the Bobcats, as both have identical 29-3 records but MSU won on the road when they played head to head and is five spots higher in the Net. Hopefully we're still having these discussions 12 hours from now, Go Cats!

[mslacatfan]

If that’s true….. well it’s pretty damn depressing to be honest.

You go 29-3……. And are hoping to get a 12 or 13 seed at best.

Ha. They are not too far away from being undefeated on the season. If that were the case could they maybe get a higher seed than 12 or 13?! Or is that the highest we could ever see no matter what?

Kinda frustrating in my opinion.

[tetoncat]

If that’s true….. well it’s pretty damn depressing to be honest.

You go 29-3……. And are hoping to get a 12 or 13 seed at best.

Ha. They are not too far away from being undefeated on the season. If that were the case could they maybe get a higher seed than 12 or 13?! Or is that the highest we could ever see no matter what?

Kinda frustrating in my opinion.

The FGCU win with them potentially seeded higher is most frustrating. They had longest home win streak in nation. If the 2 teams end up similar record, and both conference Champs Cats should be higher. If FGCU loses championship and gets in and Cats didn't that's a travesty

[MSU01]

If that’s true….. well it’s pretty damn depressing to be honest.

You go 29-3……. And are hoping to get a 12 or 13 seed at best.

Ha. They are not too far away from being undefeated on the season. If that were the case could they maybe get a higher seed than 12 or 13?! Or is that the highest we could ever see no matter what?

Kinda frustrating in my opinion.

I'd say the "ceiling" is a team like South Dakota State, which is currently a 9 seed in most projected brackets I've seen. They're also 29-3 but the big difference between them and MSU is the non-conference schedule they played. Wins over Creighton and Oregon both of which were Top 25 teams when they played and they lost to Duke by 4, who went on to win the ACC Tournament. They also played Texas and beat Wisconsin. MSU's best non-conference result is the road win at FGCU. Other than that there's not much, they lost by 20 to Utah and beat a UCF team that ended up finishing 13th in the Big 12.

[tetoncat]

If that’s true….. well it’s pretty damn depressing to be honest.

You go 29-3……. And are hoping to get a 12 or 13 seed at best.

Ha. They are not too far away from being undefeated on the season. If that were the case could they maybe get a higher seed than 12 or 13?! Or is that the highest we could ever see no matter what?

Kinda frustrating in my opinion.

I'd say the "ceiling" is a team like South Dakota State, which is currently a 9 seed in most projected brackets I've seen. They're also 29-3 but the big difference between them and MSU is the non-conference schedule they played. Wins over Creighton and Oregon both of which were Top 25 teams when they played and they lost to Duke by 4, who went on to win the ACC Tournament. They also played Texas and beat Wisconsin. MSU's best non-conference result is the road win at FGCU. Other than that there's not much, they lost by 20 to Utah and beat a UCF team that ended up finishing 13th in the Big 12.

They should be higher than a 9. What more could they do.

[RUACAT]

If that’s true….. well it’s pretty damn depressing to be honest.

You go 29-3……. And are hoping to get a 12 or 13 seed at best.

Ha. They are not too far away from being undefeated on the season. If that were the case could they maybe get a higher seed than 12 or 13?! Or is that the highest we could ever see no matter what?

Kinda frustrating in my opinion.

I'd say the "ceiling" is a team like South Dakota State, which is currently a 9 seed in most projected brackets I've seen. They're also 29-3 but the big difference between them and MSU is the non-conference schedule they played. Wins over Creighton and Oregon both of which were Top 25 teams when they played and they lost to Duke by 4, who went on to win the ACC Tournament. They also played Texas and beat Wisconsin. MSU's best non-conference result is the road win at FGCU. Other than that there's not much, they lost by 20 to Utah and beat a UCF team that ended up finishing 13th in the Big 12.

They should be higher than a 9. What more could they do.

They could join a Power 4 conference and play .500 ball

[MSU01]

Now that the Cats took care of business, time to root for as many lower seeded teams as possible to win the remaining tournaments. The only final remaining today is San Diego State vs Wyoming in the MWC Final. Wyoming is 78 in the Net and SDSU is 100, so I'll be rooting for the Aztecs.

Update: San Diego State won the MWC final, that should be good for MSU. SDSU is a 14 seed in the updated ESPN Bracketology. Of the 31 known or projected automatic bid teams, MSU (#53) currently is ranked 11th of those 31 in Net Rankings. The only teams above them who are still playing their tournaments are #52 Fairfield (MAAC), #51 Middle Tennessee (C-USA) and #37/41/47 Harvard/Columbia/Princeton (Ivy). To me MSU already belongs solidly on the 12 seed line based on their record and Net ranking. We'll see if the committee agrees. Fairfield and/or Middle Tennessee losing would help. The Ivy League shouldn't affect MSU much as any of the three best teams are likely to be seeded ahead of MSU.

[AFCAT]

[ClowderUp]

So do we want FGCU to win in the ASUN final? I think so but I'm not totally convinced either. They have the same record coming into their final (29-3), and in an amazing coincidence, they also dropped a late conference game to an 8-10 team just before the tournament. All the brackets have them ahead of the Cats even though the Cats won on their home court.

This can get argued either way. We can get placed ahead of them if they finish 29-4 (if they get an at-large invite), but that is our only marquee win on the year, so maybe we want that win to be as huge as possible. Then hope the actual selection committee (not all the hacks putting junk in the Internet) have some clarity and bump up the Cats to the #12.

[MSU01]

So do we want FGCU to win in the ASUN final? I think so but I'm not totally convinced either. They have the same record coming into their final (29-3), and in an amazing coincidence, they also dropped a late conference game to an 8-10 team just before the tournament. All the brackets have them ahead of the Cats even though the Cats won on their home court.

This can get argued either way. We can get placed ahead of them if they finish 29-4 (if they get an at-large invite), but that is our only marquee win on the year, so maybe we want that win to be as huge as possible. Then hope the actual selection committee (not all the hacks putting junk in the Internet) have some clarity and bump up the Cats to the #12.

FGCU definitely won't get an at-large bid if they lose. It's best for MSU if they do since their opponent Central Arkansas would be clearly seeded below MSU. FGCU went 18-0 in conference play, their last loss was to MSU in December.

[Bocephus]

Not a great matchup, but would be pretty cool for them to play in the Ferell Center

[ClowderUp]

So do we want FGCU to win in the ASUN final? I think so but I'm not totally convinced either. They have the same record coming into their final (29-3), and in an amazing coincidence, they also dropped a late conference game to an 8-10 team just before the tournament. All the brackets have them ahead of the Cats even though the Cats won on their home court.

This can get argued either way. We can get placed ahead of them if they finish 29-4 (if they get an at-large invite), but that is our only marquee win on the year, so maybe we want that win to be as huge as possible. Then hope the actual selection committee (not all the hacks putting junk in the Internet) have some clarity and bump up the Cats to the #12.

FGCU definitely won't get an at-large bid if they lose. It's best for MSU if they do since their opponent Central Arkansas would be clearly seeded below MSU. FGCU went 18-0 in conference play, their last loss was to MSU in December.

Yes I just was coming back to correct the error. I guess it makes sense if they lose, but beating an actual tournament team on the road has a nice ring to it.

Saturday at noon on ESPN+ if anyone is interested.

[MSU01]

My dream matchup for the Bobcats would be West Virginia, who plays a very similar style defensively to what MSU does. They are the team MSU had to pass to end up #1 in steals. Also, their coach Mark Kellogg was also an assistant at MSU under Robin Potera back in the early 2000s.

[mslacatfan]

I just don’t get it….

I don’t care what the strength of schedule says. A 30 win team should be higher than a 13 seed. Period.

[TomCat88]

My dream matchup for the Bobcats would be West Virginia, who plays a very similar style defensively to what MSU does. They are the team MSU had to pass to end up #1 in steals. Also, their coach Mark Kellogg was also an assistant at MSU under Robin Potera back in the early 2000s.

Jeezus Chrysler! Post of the Year material.

[lutecat]

My dream matchup for the Bobcats would be West Virginia, who plays a very similar style defensively to what MSU does. They are the team MSU had to pass to end up #1 in steals. Also, their coach Mark Kellogg was also an assistant at MSU under Robin Potera back in the early 2000s.

She's the one that was fired be cause her players hated her correct?

[MSU01]

My dream matchup for the Bobcats would be West Virginia, who plays a very similar style defensively to what MSU does. They are the team MSU had to pass to end up #1 in steals. Also, their coach Mark Kellogg was also an assistant at MSU under Robin Potera back in the early 2000s.

She's the one that was fired be cause her players hated her correct?

I don't recall the reasons given for her firing, but she sued MSU for gender discrimination after being let go and the case dragged on for years. One of her big allegations was that Peter Fields coerced her into putting his daughter on the team and then meddled in the team when the daughter didn't like Potera's coaching methods.