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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by lutecat » Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:51 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:37 pm
lutecat wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:19 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:54 pm
My dream matchup for the Bobcats would be West Virginia, who plays a very similar style defensively to what MSU does. They are the team MSU had to pass to end up #1 in steals. Also, their coach Mark Kellogg was also an assistant at MSU under Robin Potera back in the early 2000s.
She's the one that was fired be cause her players hated her correct?
I don't recall the reasons given for her firing, but she sued MSU for gender discrimination after being let go and the case dragged on for years. One of her big allegations was that Peter Fields coerced her into putting his daughter on the team and then meddled in the team when the daughter didn't like Potera's coaching methods.
Oh I didn't realize Peter had a daughter that played.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by lutecat » Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:55 pm

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/s ... 3bed8.html


Looked her up and reading this, she's not the one I was thinking of. It was Sheehan that I was thinking of where I heard her players all hated her.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by lutecat » Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:05 pm

I looked Fields up. How things have changed for us. Fields was a 5'11 forward. Today we have guards that are 6 even. I want to say outside of Dylan, Esme and Natalie everyone is 6 even or taller. Looked ot up. Taylee is 5'11. Everyone else is 6 or taller.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by MSU01 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:23 pm

lutecat wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:51 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:37 pm
lutecat wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:19 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:54 pm
My dream matchup for the Bobcats would be West Virginia, who plays a very similar style defensively to what MSU does. They are the team MSU had to pass to end up #1 in steals. Also, their coach Mark Kellogg was also an assistant at MSU under Robin Potera back in the early 2000s.
She's the one that was fired be cause her players hated her correct?
I don't recall the reasons given for her firing, but she sued MSU for gender discrimination after being let go and the case dragged on for years. One of her big allegations was that Peter Fields coerced her into putting his daughter on the team and then meddled in the team when the daughter didn't like Potera's coaching methods.
Oh I didn't realize Peter had a daughter that played.
Yep. From what I remember she was a decent player but definitely not one of the best on the team. I think she was also on the Missouri team and transferred to MSU when Peter got the job here. I can see how it could cause tension to have your boss's kid on a team you are coaching. Glad I could derail this thread by indirectly bringing up Coach Potera through the WV head coach. It's a long few days until Sunday evening!



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by wapiti » Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:29 am

This has the lady cats as a 12 seed
[https://sports.yahoo.com/article/women ... 06849.html



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by MSU01 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:45 am

Games to watch today that could affect MSU's seeding:

MAC Final - Ball State vs Toledo - we want a Toledo win
MAAC Final - Fairfield vs Quinnipiac - we want a Quinnipiac win
ASUN Final - FGCU vs Central Arkansas - we want a UCA win
WAC Final - Grand Canyon vs UT Arlington - we want a UTA win
C-USA Final - Liberty vs Middle Tennessee - we want a Liberty win

All the higher ranked teams in these games are very close to MSU in the Net rankings and right around the same seeding lines in the projected brackets.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by rfischer94 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 11:08 am

:)
wapiti wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:29 am
This has the lady cats as a 12 seed
[https://sports.yahoo.com/article/women ... 06849.html
This link didn't work for me but the one below did.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/women- ... 06849.html



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by SACCAT » Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:32 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:45 am
Games to watch today that could affect MSU's seeding:

MAC Final - Ball State vs Toledo - we want a Toledo win
MAAC Final - Fairfield vs Quinnipiac - we want a Quinnipiac win
ASUN Final - FGCU vs Central Arkansas - we want a UCA win
WAC Final - Grand Canyon vs UT Arlington - we want a UTA win
C-USA Final - Liberty vs Middle Tennessee - we want a Liberty win

All the higher ranked teams in these games are very close to MSU in the Net rankings and right around the same seeding lines in the projected brackets.
Only help we got in those games was Liberty beating Middle Tennessee.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by rivercat » Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:06 pm

SACCAT wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:32 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:45 am
Games to watch today that could affect MSU's seeding:

MAC Final - Ball State vs Toledo - we want a Toledo win
MAAC Final - Fairfield vs Quinnipiac - we want a Quinnipiac win
ASUN Final - FGCU vs Central Arkansas - we want a UCA win
WAC Final - Grand Canyon vs UT Arlington - we want a UTA win
C-USA Final - Liberty vs Middle Tennessee - we want a Liberty win

All the higher ranked teams in these games are very close to MSU in the Net rankings and right around the same seeding lines in the projected brackets.
Only help we got in those games was Liberty beating Middle Tennessee.
And Belmont beat Missouri State.


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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by MSU01 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:14 pm

rivercat wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:06 pm
SACCAT wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:32 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:45 am
Games to watch today that could affect MSU's seeding:

MAC Final - Ball State vs Toledo - we want a Toledo win
MAAC Final - Fairfield vs Quinnipiac - we want a Quinnipiac win
ASUN Final - FGCU vs Central Arkansas - we want a UCA win
WAC Final - Grand Canyon vs UT Arlington - we want a UTA win
C-USA Final - Liberty vs Middle Tennessee - we want a Liberty win

All the higher ranked teams in these games are very close to MSU in the Net rankings and right around the same seeding lines in the projected brackets.
Only help we got in those games was Liberty beating Middle Tennessee.
And Belmont beat Missouri State.
Belmont is actually higher in the Net rankings than Missouri State even though they were the lower seeded team. That one's likely a wash.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by rivercat » Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:30 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:14 pm
rivercat wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:06 pm
SACCAT wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:32 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:45 am
Games to watch today that could affect MSU's seeding:

MAC Final - Ball State vs Toledo - we want a Toledo win
MAAC Final - Fairfield vs Quinnipiac - we want a Quinnipiac win
ASUN Final - FGCU vs Central Arkansas - we want a UCA win
WAC Final - Grand Canyon vs UT Arlington - we want a UTA win
C-USA Final - Liberty vs Middle Tennessee - we want a Liberty win

All the higher ranked teams in these games are very close to MSU in the Net rankings and right around the same seeding lines in the projected brackets.
Only help we got in those games was Liberty beating Middle Tennessee.
And Belmont beat Missouri State.
Belmont is actually higher in the Net rankings than Missouri State even though they were the lower seeded team. That one's likely a wash.
And both Belmont and Missouri State have lower NET rankings the MSU. I'm thinking the Cats get a 12 seed.


Egriz quote "...the BSC is the bubs world and everyone else is just living in it."

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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by MSU01 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:43 pm

rivercat wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:30 pm
And both Belmont and Missouri State have lower NET rankings the MSU. I'm thinking the Cats get a 12 seed.
To me MSU is a clear 12 and you could make an argument that they're closer to an 11 than a 13. The team that's bugging me the most in the projected brackets where MSU is a 13 seed is that FGCU is always a 12, even though they (1) have a lower Net ranking than MSU, (2) play in a lower rated conference than MSU, and (3) lost to MSU head-to-head...at home. Of course, the bracket projection people are likely paying way more attention to how they're seeding the top teams and picking the bubble teams than they are to seeding the bottom of the bracket as accurately as possible. I think it's also time for the women's tournament to follow the men's model and move to all neutral sites so that there isn't such a huge disadvantage if you're seeded 13 instead of 12.



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Re: WBB National Ranking

Post by rfischer94 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:48 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:43 pm
rivercat wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:30 pm
And both Belmont and Missouri State have lower NET rankings the MSU. I'm thinking the Cats get a 12 seed.
To me MSU is a clear 12 and you could make an argument that they're closer to an 11 than a 13. The team that's bugging me the most in the projected brackets where MSU is a 13 seed is that FGCU is always a 12, even though they (1) have a lower Net ranking than MSU, (2) play in a lower rated conference than MSU, and (3) lost to MSU head-to-head...at home. Of course, the bracket projection people are likely paying way more attention to how they're seeding the top teams and picking the bubble teams than they are to seeding the bottom of the bracket as accurately as possible. I think it's also time for the women's tournament to follow the men's model and move to all neutral sites so that there isn't such a huge disadvantage if you're seeded 13 instead of 12.
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