WBB vs Idaho State

[rfischer94]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

[MSU01]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

Too many sloppy turnovers today leading to easy baskets for ISU. They also did a nice job of attacking the basket when they had a numerical advantage after beating the MSU press. 20 of the 46 paint points were on the fast break so it wasn't as if they were scoring most of those points out of the half court offense.

[rfischer94]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

Too many sloppy turnovers today leading to easy baskets for ISU. They also did a nice job of attacking the basket when they had a numerical advantage after beating the MSU press. 20 of the 46 paint points were on the fast break so it wasn't as if they were scoring most of those points out of the half court offense.

Good call. I guess when you press as often as they do you're gonna get beat sometimes. They did have an uncharacteristic number of turnovers, especially in the first quarter.

[aucat]

ISU is a physical team. Good road win! For all you folks complaining about the announcers all you have to do is listen to the bobcat network on your phone (not radio) and you can easily sync it. Daniel Salle does a great job!

[lutecat]

I almost felt like we should've gone away from the press in the 2nd have. ID ST was generally beating it with ease. And the announcers kept saying they struggle when they have to run a set offense.

[rfischer94]

ISU is a physical team. Good road win! For all you folks complaining about the announcers all you have to do is listen to the bobcat network on your phone (not radio) and you can easily sync it. Daniel Salle does a great job!

But it's fun to complain about them!

[mslacatfan]

24-2! Pretty awesome.

What is the bobcat record for wins in a season? Or better yet, what’s the big sky record?

[Bobcat4Ever]

Addy Harris just chucked an elbow on an ISU player trying to steal her rebound and it was beautiful. Don't make Addy Harris angry. You wouldn't like it if she got angry!

My wife keeps saying, “Don’t piss off a redhead!”

Aww, what would she know?

[Bobcat4Ever]

Dykstra 29 pnts 4 rebs
Morales 13 pnts 4 assists
Picton 13 pnts 6 steals

What a team this is! Anyone can step up for any reason. Dykstra is too selfless but with the Bobcats coaching staff, team, & fans encouraging.. she continues to shoot her shot and blossom. Also, S/O for Daniel b/c those ISU commentators.. yikes.

A fair number of Dykstra’s points came off ISU collapsing on Morales/Picton drives. Good two-player games.

The long three that’s in the video with the clock winding shows another great effort to create the shot. Taylee Chirrick is running the baseline from the right when Morales gets trapped. Taylee continues and then runs all the way around and behind the shooter on the left wing, making it look like everyone else is standing still. She arrives just in time to take a pass back from Morales, pauses a beat which moves the defense, and then passes it back to Marah Dykstra who is, as Coach Bin would say, shot ready. Marah drains it from way behind the arc!! Watch the setup of that play — great teamwork, patience by a Grad, excellent read and effort from a freshman, and an ice-cold three-pointer by a rare Junior!!

[MSU01]

24-2! Pretty awesome.

What is the bobcat record for wins in a season? Or better yet, what’s the big sky record?

The Bobcat record for wins in a season is 25 by the 2016/17 and 2019/20 teams. Big Sky record is 29 wins by EWU last year. If MSU wins out and advances to the Big Sky Championship game they'd be the first Big Sky women's team to win 30 in a season.

[RickRund]

Too lazy to look it up. Did Ewoo win a game in last year's NCAA? Guessing not...

[Bobcat4Ever]

Too lazy to look it up. Did Ewoo win a game in last year's NCAA? Guessing not...

No. A Big Sky team hasn’t won in about 40 years.

[mslacatfan]

24-2! Pretty awesome.

What is the bobcat record for wins in a season? Or better yet, what’s the big sky record?

The Bobcat record for wins in a season is 25 by the 2016/17 and 2019/20 teams. Big Sky record is 29 wins by EWU last year. If MSU wins out and advances to the Big Sky Championship game they'd be the first Big Sky women's team to win 30 in a season.

Wow. It would be pretty cool to get that big sky record!

[MSU01]

Too lazy to look it up. Did Ewoo win a game in last year's NCAA? Guessing not...

No. A Big Sky team hasn’t won in about 40 years.

More like 30, the Griz in 1994 was the last Big Sky win. They were a 7 seed that year and almost beat Stanford in the second round.

[BobcatDel]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

Too many sloppy turnovers today leading to easy baskets for ISU. They also did a nice job of attacking the basket when they had a numerical advantage after beating the MSU press. 20 of the 46 paint points were on the fast break so it wasn't as if they were scoring most of those points out of the half court offense.

Interesting….guess I kinda look at things different. My question was how in the world does a team only score 60 points in a game when you’ve scored 46 points in the paint and outrebounded the other team 20-4 in a half. It means you’ve only scored 14 points from free throws and out of the paint shooting!!! On top of that, you are the 3rd best 3 point shooting team in the league at 33.3% and you make only 3 of 14 against the Bobcats….??? FYI, IDST averages 60 points per game for the season and you score a season average 60 points in a game people say you dominated……while allowing Cats to score 3 points over their season average….on your own home court.

Idaho State has always played good fundamental defensive ball and been very good rebounders. I believe Coach S is the second winningest coach in the Big Sky and will likely pass 300 wins before retiring. I don’t care for the guy personally due to his sideline behavior (which has improved the last couple years) but I can’t deny that he is a good coach and prepares the kids well. I hope he isn’t pushing the Wright girl with the bad knee to keep playing just so he can get a few more wins.

I thought IDST had a good game plan and played their hearts out. But to the question asked earlier about why we didn’t stop pressing…..well 28 turnovers and 17 steals is why…that’s our DNA this year. It takes time off the clock to get to a front court set…it causes teams to speed up play and make errant passes, it sets up trap plays in the corner or along the sidelines, it causes other teams to use extra energy playing against, it takes away possessions, it causes half court violations…. 12 extra possessions due to turnovers was key to the game for us. And winning the rebound battle in the second half was a big key. Holding a 33% 3 point shooting to 21% is good also. I remember back when I played if it is one thing we could do it was run….and fastbreak we did….we could break a press and when we did we could run but we still only finished third in the conference….

I’m also kinda curious why no one mentioned that one of the IDST game plans was obviously to take away the paint from the Bobcats. They were back on D quick to prevent our fastbreak and they had the middle clogged. It was almost a challenge to the Cats to beat ‘em from the outside and with the press because you weren’t going to beat the Bengals on the inside or with rebounds. It was to force the Cats to shoot lower % shots and to gain extra possessions on the rebounding side. It was a good strategy. But if you watch the Cats this season someone has always stepped up from outside…Esmeralda, or KJ, or Dylan, or Nat….and yesterday it was Marah.

I have my fear of what a team can do to beat us but I’m more a worrier than some folks. Ive learned that I can sit and pick the team apart but I’m sitting here watching a coach and a great group of ladies that have a real chance of going undefeated in conference play for the first time in Bobcat history and first time in over 20 years in the Big Sky… and that will undoubtedly have the most wins in a season ever for Lady Bobcats as well as have nation leading stats in a number of categories. I’m humbled!

[lutecat]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

Too many sloppy turnovers today leading to easy baskets for ISU. They also did a nice job of attacking the basket when they had a numerical advantage after beating the MSU press. 20 of the 46 paint points were on the fast break so it wasn't as if they were scoring most of those points out of the half court offense.

Interesting….guess I kinda look at things different. My question was how in the world does a team only score 60 points in a game when you’ve scored 46 points in the paint and outrebounded the other team 20-4 in a half. It means you’ve only scored 14 points from free throws and out of the paint shooting!!! On top of that, you are the 3rd best 3 point shooting team in the league at 33.3% and you make only 3 of 14 against the Bobcats….??? FYI, IDST averages 60 points per game for the season and you score a season average 60 points in a game people say you dominated……while allowing Cats to score 3 points over their season average….on your own home court.

Idaho State has always played good fundamental defensive ball and been very good rebounders. I believe Coach S is the second winningest coach in the Big Sky and will likely pass 300 wins before retiring. I don’t care for the guy personally due to his sideline behavior (which has improved the last couple years) but I can’t deny that he is a good coach and prepares the kids well. I hope he isn’t pushing the Wright girl with the bad knee to keep playing just so he can get a few more wins.

I thought IDST had a good game plan and played their hearts out. But to the question asked earlier about why we didn’t stop pressing…..well 28 turnovers and 17 steals is why…that’s our DNA this year. It takes time off the clock to get to a front court set…it causes teams to speed up play and make errant passes, it sets up trap plays in the corner or along the sidelines, it causes other teams to use extra energy playing against, it takes away possessions, it causes half court violations…. 12 extra possessions due to turnovers was key to the game for us. And winning the rebound battle in the second half was a big key. Holding a 33% 3 point shooting to 21% is good also. I remember back when I played if it is one thing we could do it was run….and fastbreak we did….we could break a press and when we did we could run but we still only finished third in the conference….

I have my fear of what a team can do to beat us but I’m more a worrier than some folks. Ive learned that I can sit and pick the team apart but I’m sitting here watching a coach and a great group of ladies that have a real chance of going undefeated in conference play for the first time in Bobcat history and first time in over 20 years in the Big Sky… and that will undoubtedly have the most wins in a season ever for Lady Bobcats as well as have nation leading stats in a number of categories. I’m humbled!

My comment about stopping the press was the 2nd half when we stopped getting turnovers while pressing. Yes you can point to the turnovers but when they happened wasn't in the press H2.

[BobcatDel]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

Too many sloppy turnovers today leading to easy baskets for ISU. They also did a nice job of attacking the basket when they had a numerical advantage after beating the MSU press. 20 of the 46 paint points were on the fast break so it wasn't as if they were scoring most of those points out of the half court offense.

Interesting….guess I kinda look at things different. My question was how in the world does a team only score 60 points in a game when you’ve scored 46 points in the paint and outrebounded the other team 20-4 in a half. It means you’ve only scored 14 points from free throws and out of the paint shooting!!! On top of that, you are the 3rd best 3 point shooting team in the league at 33.3% and you make only 3 of 14 against the Bobcats….??? FYI, IDST averages 60 points per game for the season and you score a season average 60 points in a game people say you dominated……while allowing Cats to score 3 points over their season average….on your own home court.

Idaho State has always played good fundamental defensive ball and been very good rebounders. I believe Coach S is the second winningest coach in the Big Sky and will likely pass 300 wins before retiring. I don’t care for the guy personally due to his sideline behavior (which has improved the last couple years) but I can’t deny that he is a good coach and prepares the kids well. I hope he isn’t pushing the Wright girl with the bad knee to keep playing just so he can get a few more wins.

I thought IDST had a good game plan and played their hearts out. But to the question asked earlier about why we didn’t stop pressing…..well 28 turnovers and 17 steals is why…that’s our DNA this year. It takes time off the clock to get to a front court set…it causes teams to speed up play and make errant passes, it sets up trap plays in the corner or along the sidelines, it causes other teams to use extra energy playing against, it takes away possessions, it causes half court violations…. 12 extra possessions due to turnovers was key to the game for us. And winning the rebound battle in the second half was a big key. Holding a 33% 3 point shooting to 21% is good also. I remember back when I played if it is one thing we could do it was run….and fastbreak we did….we could break a press and when we did we could run but we still only finished third in the conference….

I have my fear of what a team can do to beat us but I’m more a worrier than some folks. Ive learned that I can sit and pick the team apart but I’m sitting here watching a coach and a great group of ladies that have a real chance of going undefeated in conference play for the first time in Bobcat history and first time in over 20 years in the Big Sky… and that will undoubtedly have the most wins in a season ever for Lady Bobcats as well as have nation leading stats in a number of categories. I’m humbled!

My comment about stopping the press was the 2nd half when we stopped getting turnovers while pressing. Yes you can point to the turnovers but when they happened wasn't in the press H2.

Guess we saw some difference there. Yes I agree with you there were 18 TO by Bengals in first half and only 10 in second half. (Side note to fans who aren’t into stats the Bobcats average 14 TOs per game this year). IMHO when I rewatched in last night, 3 or 4 of those second half TOs were directly caused by pressure started in the backcourt…forcing the player down the sideline….forcing them into the trap immediately across half court….just the speed and unease to get it across half court in a deflection or near steal situation on more than one situation….just the DNA of tenacious D full court is as mentally challenging as it is physical…there’s never a break the whole danged game…wears on ya! Even Nats “steal of the game award” was incessant half court pressure when the Bengal lady crossed mid court and dribbled to the side to get Coach S instruction and Nat dogging her all the way, then picked her clean for the easy layup and 10 point lead.

Anyway, I’m not the coach so I’ll leave it to Coach Bin….but as a fan I like it! I’ve always liked teams that played tenacious D full court so call me biased. But if I was Coach…I would be having “discussion”about rebounding and the inside defense…some of those paint points were not fast break points but lapses on the D with back door cuts or failure to cover folks cutting underneath to the basket…credit some good passes by IDST.

[lutecat]

We have to be less sloppy with the basketball. Picking up the dribble too soon.

Amen to that! It got them in trouble time and time again today. They had a wonderful win (thanks Marah) but they could make it a lot easier on themselves. They will need to fix things like this to win an NCAA tournament game which I think they can do. I knew Seton would find a way to slow our offense, and he did. Marah rose to the occasion and casually tossed in 18 points on 3s alone which made the difference.

Back to your point — it looked like they’d commit to going in but would get about one step too far and then get doubled by the Bengal defense. Instead of being able to quickly back up they picked it up repeatedly, and today there seemed to be less rotation behind them to provide an exit pass.

What can they do to modify their attack and keep the ball from being stuck like that?

Good question. Here's another one-- how do the ladies avoid giving up 40 + points in the paint? I remember Idaho burning us on a lot of open lay ins earlier in conference play.

Too many sloppy turnovers today leading to easy baskets for ISU. They also did a nice job of attacking the basket when they had a numerical advantage after beating the MSU press. 20 of the 46 paint points were on the fast break so it wasn't as if they were scoring most of those points out of the half court offense.

Interesting….guess I kinda look at things different. My question was how in the world does a team only score 60 points in a game when you’ve scored 46 points in the paint and outrebounded the other team 20-4 in a half. It means you’ve only scored 14 points from free throws and out of the paint shooting!!! On top of that, you are the 3rd best 3 point shooting team in the league at 33.3% and you make only 3 of 14 against the Bobcats….??? FYI, IDST averages 60 points per game for the season and you score a season average 60 points in a game people say you dominated……while allowing Cats to score 3 points over their season average….on your own home court.

Idaho State has always played good fundamental defensive ball and been very good rebounders. I believe Coach S is the second winningest coach in the Big Sky and will likely pass 300 wins before retiring. I don’t care for the guy personally due to his sideline behavior (which has improved the last couple years) but I can’t deny that he is a good coach and prepares the kids well. I hope he isn’t pushing the Wright girl with the bad knee to keep playing just so he can get a few more wins.

I thought IDST had a good game plan and played their hearts out. But to the question asked earlier about why we didn’t stop pressing…..well 28 turnovers and 17 steals is why…that’s our DNA this year. It takes time off the clock to get to a front court set…it causes teams to speed up play and make errant passes, it sets up trap plays in the corner or along the sidelines, it causes other teams to use extra energy playing against, it takes away possessions, it causes half court violations…. 12 extra possessions due to turnovers was key to the game for us. And winning the rebound battle in the second half was a big key. Holding a 33% 3 point shooting to 21% is good also. I remember back when I played if it is one thing we could do it was run….and fastbreak we did….we could break a press and when we did we could run but we still only finished third in the conference….

I have my fear of what a team can do to beat us but I’m more a worrier than some folks. Ive learned that I can sit and pick the team apart but I’m sitting here watching a coach and a great group of ladies that have a real chance of going undefeated in conference play for the first time in Bobcat history and first time in over 20 years in the Big Sky… and that will undoubtedly have the most wins in a season ever for Lady Bobcats as well as have nation leading stats in a number of categories. I’m humbled!

My comment about stopping the press was the 2nd half when we stopped getting turnovers while pressing. Yes you can point to the turnovers but when they happened wasn't in the press H2.

Guess we saw some difference there. Yes I agree with you there were 18 TO by Bengals in first half and only 10 in second half. (Side note to fans who aren’t into stats the Bobcats average 14 TOs per game this year). IMHO when I rewatched in last night, 3 or 4 of those second half TOs were directly caused by pressure started in the backcourt…forcing the player down the sideline….forcing them into the trap immediately across half court….just the speed and unease to get it across half court in a deflection or near steal situation on more than one situation….just the DNA of tenacious D full court is as mentally challenging as it is physical…there’s never a break the whole danged game…wears on ya! Even Nats “steal of the game award” was incessant half court pressure when the Bengal lady crossed mid court and dribbled to the side to get Coach S instruction and Nat dogging her all the way, then picked her clean for the easy layup and 10 point lead.

Anyway, I’m not the coach so I’ll leave it to Coach Bin….but as a fan I like it! I’ve always liked teams that played tenacious D full court so call me biased. But if I was Coach…I would be having “discussion”about rebounding and the inside defense…some of those paint points were not fast break points but lapses on the D with back door cuts or failure to cover folks cutting underneath to the basket…credit some good passes by IDST.

You make sense with your explanation.

[BobcatDel]

You know one thing that impresses me about this team besides how good they are. I’m sitting yelling at the TV when we get 6 points ahead, then we lose the lead, then gain it again, then lose it again….and we cant pull away and I’m “fretting”. I watch the girls and they don’t seem to have any worries…nobody is excited yelling at one another…it’s kinda like this is just another day at the office so let’s go get it done!

[Joe Bobcat]

Thanks for the thoughts and fan analysis guys. Some good stuff there.
A couple of simple random thoughts I had.

To start the game I felt like the Bobcats were a little lackadaisical along with tentative on their passes and ISU was more than happy to give them a little taste of their own medicine of jumping into the passing lane for the steal. It seemed like coach Bin got that corrected in one of the first few timeouts.

I had to laugh last night when Philips committed her 3rd foul and was replaced with Chirrick. I mean how demoralizing must it be for the opponents when the sub coming in is going to probably be even harder to play offense against. Same goes for when Picton comes in, and nothing against Dylan as she's tough as nails too.

What a blessing it is to have a team so talented from top to bottom and a coach that relentlessly pushes for constant improvement.