Ok, so what's the starting 5?

CatBlitz · Post by **CatBlitz** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:19 pm

With all the new names and who's ineligible or what I have no idea. What do you guys think?

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:31 pm

Total guess as I don't know the new players at all:

Singleton, Stewart, Johnson-Blount, Allou, Fall

jon · Post by **jon** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:25 pm

BelgradeBobcat wrote:Total guess as I don't know the new players at all:

Singleton, Stewart, Johnson-Blount, Allou, Fall

This would be my guess too... other I could see if maybe Shawn Reid starting if Stewart or Johnson-Blount don't know the system well enough yet.

CatBlitz · Post by **CatBlitz** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:46 pm

I actually like that lineup. I'm extremely interested to see how they mesh this year.

*Also, what's the deal with Tre Johnson again?

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:03 am

Given everyone is healthy

PG Singleton
SG Blount-Johnson
SF Stewart - will swing to PG at times ala Rush
PF Tre Johnson will be pushed by Allou. Johnson has a bigger upside Allou is dependable & solid defender
C Mohammad Fall

Off bench
Allou @ PF & C
Reid @ SF & SG Will be an all conference player but might not yet.
Moon @ SG
Budinich @ C & PF

I keep hearing raves about Stewart and Blount-Johnson clearly our best two player. Reid could be our third. Blount Johnson are interchangeable at the wings but are different player who compliment each other quite well Johnson is rougher more physical and better shooter. Stewart is thinner, but is a major athlete and explosive. Stewart also has very advance ball skills.

CatBlitz · Post by **CatBlitz** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:49 am

mslacat wrote:Given everyone is healthy

PG Singleton
SG Blount-Johnson
SF Stewart - will swing to PG at times ala Rush
PF Tre Johnson will be pushed by Allou. Johnson has a bigger upside Allou is dependable & solid defender
C Mohammad Fall

Off bench
Allou @ PF & C
Reid @ SF & SG Will be an all conference player but might not yet.
Moon @ SG
Budinich @ C & PF

I keep hearing raves about Stewart and Blount-Johnson clearly our best two player. Reid could be our third. Blount Johnson are interchangeable at the wings but are different player who compliment each other quite well Johnson is rougher more physical and better shooter. Stewart is thinner, but is a major athlete and explosive. Stewart also has very advance ball skills.

Thank you! After graduating (both myself and all the players that were here when I was)I've become a bit out of touch with the team. From what I know, I do like that lineup compared to last year's. I really hope Tre and Fall can form a great duo up front.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:07 am

CatBlitz wrote: *Also, what's the deal with Tre Johnson again?

According to Max Media announcers he's 2nd string running back on the football team.

Gidal Kaiser · Post by **Gidal Kaiser** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:09 pm

Here is what I know: Stewart might be injured to start the season, per a post his Twitter account. If that happens, your starters are this
PG Singleton
SG Johnson-Blount
SF Reid/Johnson
PF Allou/Johnson
C Fall/Allou

Blake Brumwell can make a push for center or power forward, and the triumvirate of Allou, Fall and Johnson is interchangeable. As is Brumwell. That quartet will get into a rotation system, i'd think, until one or two of them start to build up and stand out. And don't forget Jeff Budinich, though he plays more of a bigger small forward/wing. Huse doesn't have a true, bonafide center at this point, which has always been an issue (if I'm not mistaken). Johnson will see time at both forward spots, but probably play mostly small forward. The guard position beyond the starters is, suffice to say, a big crapshoot, especially without Biglow and if Stewart is hurt for more than ... let's say 2-3 weeks. I'll have more going into and coming out of Tuesday's scrimmage, which is at 6:30 p.m.

CatBlitz · Post by **CatBlitz** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:27 am

Thanks Gidal. Look forward to hearing it!

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:50 am

Stewart is fine, it was nothing that kept him out of Practice.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:19 am

Gidal Kaiser wrote:Here is what I know: Stewart might be injured to start the season, per a post his Twitter account. If that happens, your starters are this
PG Singleton
SG Johnson-Blount
SF Reid/Johnson
PF Allou/Johnson
C Fall/Allou

Blake Brumwell can make a push for center or power forward, and the triumvirate of Allou, Fall and Johnson is interchangeable. As is Brumwell. That quartet will get into a rotation system, i'd think, until one or two of them start to build up and stand out. And don't forget Jeff Budinich, though he plays more of a bigger small forward/wing. Huse doesn't have a true, bonafide center at this point, which has always been an issue (if I'm not mistaken). Johnson will see time at both forward spots, but probably play mostly small forward. The guard position beyond the starters is, suffice to say, a big crapshoot, especially without Biglow and if Stewart is hurt for more than ... let's say 2-3 weeks. I'll have more going into and coming out of Tuesday's scrimmage, which is at 6:30 p.m.

Gidal
Thanks for the update. I was intrigued by you picking Brumwell ahead of Budinich at the PF/C center. I do not have a firm grasp of where Brumwell fit in this year. Big bodied kid who has some nice scoring and rebounding skills, but coming off of a redshirt year he is kind of a mystery as to how far he has progressed since high school. I liked Budinich's progression last year. As a high school kid he kind of had a rep as someone who did not like to defend nor mix it up down low. Just kind of hang out on the perimeter and score. While by no means a defensive stopper he looked more than willing last year to play down low and defend. While he has the scoring ability from the perimeter I don't think he has the quickness nor the lateral movement though to play the wing spot in this system. Best bet would be a Bobby Howard-ish power forward and at 6-9 Huse will plug him in at center.

The Bobcats are loaded at the small forward spot with Reid, Stewart, X. Johnson, and T. Johnson all capable of playing there. Further adding to the picture Moon will get some major minutes off the bench and I continue to hear Tor Anderson had a great off season. When these shooting guards come in look for them to push the starting shooting guard to the small forward spot. The point of this do not be surprised with certain team and at different times Huse take out one of our big men and goes smaller to get his best athletes on the floor.

Gidal Kaiser · Post by **Gidal Kaiser** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:18 pm

Well, Huse does have a penchant for going small with a four-guard(ish) lineup. It's an interesting conundrum, if you will: there are plenty of interchangeable parts, but is that really good or really bad? The one solid fact is Rod Singleton is more of a pure point guard, but beyond that it's a plug-and-play style - whoever might be hot at the time will be on the court the most. It's wide open because this team counted so much on four guys who are now gone, and there are a lot of x-factors (pardon the cliche & possible pun), which you'd think going into a potential make-or-break year (depends on who you ask - to some, every Huse year is a make-or-break year

) is not a great thing. Good gosh, I'm glad hoops season is here.

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:02 pm

Yeah I think the knock on Budnich was his defense, and that he could pickup two or three fouls in a heartbeat. But it sometimes takes the big guys a little longer so hopefully patience will payoff. He does have some nice offensive skills-though I think he was a little too in love with the three point shot.

I'm intrigued that Brumwell is part of the conversation. I thought he would be more of a practice player like Steven Davis-especially early in his career.

Gidal Kaiser · Post by **Gidal Kaiser** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:28 pm

I'll say this... I'm not sure how much of the conversation Brumwell will be a part of, I just know the coaches were coaching him up in the two partial practices I'ev seen. He has the bigger-body look (not as big as Cody Anderson) Huse seems to like down low to combat the fact MSU's usual front-line players are relatively shorter (read: 6-7 to 6-9) than "normal" or "typical" posts/centers/big men.

duelalumnicat · Post by **duelalumnicat** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:59 am

Guys, thanks for the info. I am curious. How has Mohammad Fall looked so far?

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:29 am

duelalumnicat wrote:Guys, thanks for the info. I am curious. How has Mohammad Fall looked so far?

That is the big question I have. I have not heard boo since he arrived on campus. We could really use an anchor inside.

DicTater · Post by **DicTater** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:06 pm

It'll be interesting to see how they play this year. I think that Huse tries to control too much and slows the team down too much. Last year and this year, the Cats will be without an imposing inside presence, but will have a lot of athletic players. With that kind of team, you have to increase the tempo or bigger teams will kill you inside. But Huse seems to want to call a set play every time down the floor. At some point the coach has to put a little trust in his players. The Cats seem to be pretty deep with guards and forwards who are athletic, so I think they should be pressing and running as much as possible. If you want to play like Wisconsin, you have to have a bunch of 6'10" guys who can pop off screens and shoot.

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