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HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:42 am
by wbtfg
I posted this in another thread, but thought I'd start a new one....

Why can't we get rid of Brad ASAP and move assistant coach Shawn Dirden up to interim head coach and keep him at a similar salary for the year? This would hopefully give MSU bball a bit of a shot in the arm and minimize the impact on our budget as we have to honor Huse's contract for another year.


Can this happen?

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:14 am
by MSU01
I highly doubt that an assistant coach would agree to take an interim head coaching position while still staying at his assistant coaching salary level. If my employer asked me to temporarily step into a higher level position to replace a departing employee, I would expect a rise in salary commensurate with the new position I was taking on. That being said, I agree that Dirden is an asset to the MSU program and would be a great choice for an interim head coach in the highly unlikely event that one is needed.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:20 am
by allcat
I don't think the money is the problem.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:40 am
by SACCAT
allcat wrote:I don't think the money is the problem.
Then what is?

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:43 am
by allcat
SACCAT wrote:
allcat wrote:I don't think the money is the problem.
Then what is?
Fields would need to fire Huse first. Remember who gave Huse a 2 year extension?

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:44 am
by wbtfg
MSU01 wrote:I highly doubt that an assistant coach would agree to take an interim head coaching position while still staying at his assistant coaching salary level. If my employer asked me to temporarily step into a higher level position to replace a departing employee, I would expect a rise in salary commensurate with the new position I was taking on. That being said, I agree that Dirden is an asset to the MSU program and would be a great choice for an interim head coach in the highly unlikely event that one is needed.
Yeah....definitely solid points. Just trying to think of a way to make it happen with as little of an impact on AD budget as possible....whether that's realistic or not, that's perhaps another question.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:58 am
by Hawks86
wbtfg wrote:
MSU01 wrote:I highly doubt that an assistant coach would agree to take an interim head coaching position while still staying at his assistant coaching salary level. If my employer asked me to temporarily step into a higher level position to replace a departing employee, I would expect a rise in salary commensurate with the new position I was taking on. That being said, I agree that Dirden is an asset to the MSU program and would be a great choice for an interim head coach in the highly unlikely event that one is needed.
Yeah....definitely solid points. Just trying to think of a way to make it happen with as little of an impact on AD budget as possible....whether that's realistic or not, it perhaps another question.
According to the budget. Mens bball actually made close to $200,000 in 2012-2013(I know its all fuzzy math). In the grand scheme of things,IMO, Fields biting the bullet on Huses contract would hurt, but not much. Some renewed interest with any new coach and the renovations will help cover some of the damage.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:00 am
by allcat
Just because you're a dreamer, that does not make you bad. Your dreams are just that though, the nightmare is that Fields is going to stick with Huse.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:13 am
by Hawks86
allcat wrote:Just because you're a dreamer, that does not make you bad. Your dreams are just that though, the nightmare is that Fields is going to stick with Huse.

Just keeping it real :P

I do have trouble understanding why $130,000 out of an $18 million budget would be such a huge burden for athletics to overcome.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:37 am
by LTown Cat
Hawks86 wrote:
allcat wrote:Just because you're a dreamer, that does not make you bad. Your dreams are just that though, the nightmare is that Fields is going to stick with Huse.

Just keeping it real :P

I do have trouble understanding why $130,000 out of an $18 million budget would be such a huge burden for athletics to overcome.
It wouldn't. If winning and turning the program around was a top priority they would deal with it.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:03 pm
by DicTater
LTown Cat wrote:
Hawks86 wrote:
allcat wrote:Just because you're a dreamer, that does not make you bad. Your dreams are just that though, the nightmare is that Fields is going to stick with Huse.

Just keeping it real :P

I do have trouble understanding why $130,000 out of an $18 million budget would be such a huge burden for athletics to overcome.
It wouldn't. If winning and turning the program around was a top priority they would deal with it.
Of course, if those were priorities, Huse wouldn't have gotten a 2 year extension last year.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:06 pm
by mslacat
I would support Dirden no question asked

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:07 am
by Blueandgoldbobcats
I would support Dirden

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:32 pm
by SACCAT
Bump after today's news. I think if you are wanting to keep the players you have signed for next year, this is the best move.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:38 pm
by wbtfg
SACCAT wrote:Bump after today's news. I think if you are wanting to keep the players you have signed for next year, this is the best move.
Sounds like fields is opening application to anyone interested. No way dirden gets hired in an open application process.

I would have preferred to see dirden get a one year interim opportunity

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:19 pm
by KittieKop
I've said for a long time we hired the wrong Huse. Shawn has done very well at MSU-N and has the men's team in the nationals again this year.

Just sayin'.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:34 pm
by c.falls cat
KittieKop wrote:I've said for a long time we hired the wrong Huse. Shawn has done very well at MSU-N and has the men's team in the nationals again this year.

Just sayin'.
+1 on the job he has done at Northern. That campus and facility is a dump but he has managed to get high level talent in there and made them the team to beat in the Frontier year in and year out.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:44 pm
by BelgradeBobcat
c.falls cat wrote:
KittieKop wrote:I've said for a long time we hired the wrong Huse. Shawn has done very well at MSU-N and has the men's team in the nationals again this year.

Just sayin'.
+1 on the job he has done at Northern. That campus and facility is a dump but he has managed to get high level talent in there and made them the team to beat in the Frontier year in and year out.
Brad Huse won a ton of games at Jamestown in North Dakota-and that place is no nirvana. And when Durham left everybody in Bobcatnation wanted Huse-he was a very popular hire. And I would bet-if Huse ended up at a place like Montana Tech or some other Frontier type school, he'd win a lot again. It's just that D-1 is a whole different animal.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:56 pm
by c.falls cat
BelgradeBobcat wrote:
c.falls cat wrote:
KittieKop wrote:I've said for a long time we hired the wrong Huse. Shawn has done very well at MSU-N and has the men's team in the nationals again this year.

Just sayin'.
+1 on the job he has done at Northern. That campus and facility is a dump but he has managed to get high level talent in there and made them the team to beat in the Frontier year in and year out.
Brad Huse won a ton of games at Jamestown in North Dakota-and that place is no nirvana. And when Durham left everybody in Bobcatnation wanted Huse-he was a very popular hire. And I would bet-if Huse ended up at a place like Montana Tech or some other Frontier type school, he'd win a lot again. It's just that D-1 is a whole different animal.
Oh make no mistake, I am NOT lobbying for another Huse. Just acknowledging the job Shawn has done at Northern. If it were me I would go in a completely different direction. No huse. No Dirden. We need some fresh blood.

Re: HIRE DIRDEN!

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:18 am
by 4everacatfan
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c.falls cat wrote:
BelgradeBobcat wrote:
c.falls cat wrote:
KittieKop wrote:I've said for a long time we hired the wrong Huse. Shawn has done very well at MSU-N and has the men's team in the nationals again this year.

Just sayin'.
+1 on the job he has done at Northern. That campus and facility is a dump but he has managed to get high level talent in there and made them the team to beat in the Frontier year in and year out.
Brad Huse won a ton of games at Jamestown in North Dakota-and that place is no nirvana. And when Durham left everybody in Bobcatnation wanted Huse-he was a very popular hire. And I would bet-if Huse ended up at a place like Montana Tech or some other Frontier type school, he'd win a lot again. It's just that D-1 is a whole different animal.
Oh make no mistake, I am NOT lobbying for another Huse. Just acknowledging the job Shawn has done at Northern. If it were me I would go in a completely different direction. No huse. No Dirden. We need some fresh blood.
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