Congrats on winning the Big Sky Tournament, and welcome to the Tournament. Can't wait to get this party started, and see what it brings.
A little about our Tech team. We have a wonderful group of young men, and players. Our top players are Kevin McCullars, Terrance Shannon Jr., Bryson Williams, Adonis Arms, Kevin OBanor., and Davion Warren. We can bring Clarence Nadolny, Mylik Wilson, and Daniel Batcho off the bench.
This Tech team has a GREAT defense, and we can have a tendency to struggle at scoring...at times....which I don't know why. We just haven't been able to really "put it together" it seems. We have lost 9 games, and 7 have been on the road, and 2 at neutral sites.
This Tech team just hasn't shot the 3 very well, and, I see that MSU shoots it really well. Tech defense will give up the open 3, but our team is VERY "handsy", and it creates a ton of turnovers.
If MSU limits their Turnovers, and hits their open 3's...THAT will be your key to beating this Tech team.
Pretty much ALL of our guys are 6'6-6'8 (Daniel Batcho is 6'10), and on defense, we WILL switch everything...and, overplay help side defense which will lead to open 3's, at times...or a lot of times. Screens don't work great since we switch.
Hit your 3's...and you have a GREAT chance of winning. Tech will score a TON in the paint, and MSU could get into foul problems. Tech defense WILL create charges for your offense...so, be aware of that, too.
Hope to hear more about your team!!
Re: TTU/MSU
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:32 am
by Calbo32
Any Bobcat fans coming to San Diego? We have some space so get back to me! Texas Tech is heavily favored but you never know!
Re: TTU/MSU
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:50 am
by Matador96
Hey OP…….don’t forget Marcus Santos-Silva. Does all the dirty work in the paint.
We can (and will) play 10 players. We constantly sub, so we tend to have fresh legs in the 2H.
Here is the Iowa State Game from the Big 12 Tournament:
Pretty much ALL of our guys are 6'6-6'8 (Daniel Batcho is 6'10), and on defense, we WILL switch everything...and, overplay help side defense which will lead to open 3's, at times...or a lot of times. Screens don't work great since we switch.
Ugh another EWU. Our 5'8" pg gets to hide in the trees again I guess.
I think our only shot is if the scoring and number of possessions stays low. We could get hot from 3 but I definitely wouldn't say that's our thing this year. Really hope both teams are fully healthy going in and the game stays interesting!
Re: TTU/MSU
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:46 am
by BStinsMSU
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Re: TTU/MSU
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:46 am
by wapiti
Bishob, Belo and Osobor need to do what they do without getting in foul trouble or turning the ball over.
But the X factor for the Cat's will be Battle. He has the potential to go off and have a huge game. He could cause TTU to go into foul trouble while putting up points.
and our sharp shooters need to hit the open 3's when they have them.
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Congrats on winning the Big Sky Tournament, and welcome to the Tournament. Can't wait to get this party started, and see what it brings.
A little about our Tech team. We have a wonderful group of young men, and players. Our top players are Kevin McCullars, Terrance Shannon Jr., Bryson Williams, Adonis Arms, Kevin OBanor., and Davion Warren. We can bring Clarence Nadolny, Mylik Wilson, and Daniel Batcho off the bench.
This Tech team has a GREAT defense, and we can have a tendency to struggle at scoring...at times....which I don't know why. We just haven't been able to really "put it together" it seems. We have lost 9 games, and 7 have been on the road, and 2 at neutral sites.
This Tech team just hasn't shot the 3 very well, and, I see that MSU shoots it really well. Tech defense will give up the open 3, but our team is VERY "handsy", and it creates a ton of turnovers.
If MSU limits their Turnovers, and hits their open 3's...THAT will be your key to beating this Tech team.
Pretty much ALL of our guys are 6'6-6'8 (Daniel Batcho is 6'10), and on defense, we WILL switch everything...and, overplay help side defense which will lead to open 3's, at times...or a lot of times. Screens don't work great since we switch.
Hit your 3's...and you have a GREAT chance of winning. Tech will score a TON in the paint, and MSU could get into foul problems. Tech defense WILL create charges for your offense...so, be aware of that, too.
Hope to hear more about your team!!
Welcome!
The Cats can shoot the ball very well but chucking up 3s isn't our focus - we can also go very cold. We have several guys who can knock them down, include starting SR PG Xavier Bishop (5'8) but he's more of the if the shot clock is winding down he'll launch a deep 3 kind of guy (and makes a lot of those), but he isn't actively looking for a 3. 6'7 SR F/G combo Abdul Mohamed is our best % deep shooter (44.4%) but again he takes it if it's there, we don't really run any plays to get Mohamed an open look. The main shooters who can get hot are 6'8 G Tyler Patterson who doesn't do much else offensively but try and get a catch and shoot 3, and 6'4 180 G Nick Gazelas off the bench who has predominately a catch and shoot guy as well but the last month of the season he's showing he can do a lot more. 6'5 SR G Amin Adamu is a streaky shooting but arguable our most athletic player and our best dribble drive perpetrator, and ahcoring down the post is DPOY JR 6'9 240 lb Jublie Belo who is great at defending the paint but if you get him walking towards the perimeter it's a whole different story. He leads the league in blocks.
The other poster mentioned playing a 10 man rotation, the Cats will easily play 8 and likely 10 as well - unless Tech runs a fast paced crazy tempo offense, which it doesn't sound like they do, I really don't think fatigue is going to be a factor at all in this game.
Biggest issues for MSU will have our posts guard out near the perimeter, not turning the ball over when we drive into the paint, and then size mismatches on defense. We do have guys who can beat defenders off the dribble but obviously that will be more limited against an athletic team like Tech.
MSU needs to come out fast to even keep it within striking distance at half, and even if that happens I fully expect Tech to pull away and win by a dozen or so. If MSU comes out and struggles, it will get ugly fast.
Congrats on winning the Big Sky Tournament, and welcome to the Tournament. Can't wait to get this party started, and see what it brings.
A little about our Tech team. We have a wonderful group of young men, and players. Our top players are Kevin McCullars, Terrance Shannon Jr., Bryson Williams, Adonis Arms, Kevin OBanor., and Davion Warren. We can bring Clarence Nadolny, Mylik Wilson, and Daniel Batcho off the bench.
This Tech team has a GREAT defense, and we can have a tendency to struggle at scoring...at times....which I don't know why. We just haven't been able to really "put it together" it seems. We have lost 9 games, and 7 have been on the road, and 2 at neutral sites.
This Tech team just hasn't shot the 3 very well, and, I see that MSU shoots it really well. Tech defense will give up the open 3, but our team is VERY "handsy", and it creates a ton of turnovers.
If MSU limits their Turnovers, and hits their open 3's...THAT will be your key to beating this Tech team.
Pretty much ALL of our guys are 6'6-6'8 (Daniel Batcho is 6'10), and on defense, we WILL switch everything...and, overplay help side defense which will lead to open 3's, at times...or a lot of times. Screens don't work great since we switch.
Hit your 3's...and you have a GREAT chance of winning. Tech will score a TON in the paint, and MSU could get into foul problems. Tech defense WILL create charges for your offense...so, be aware of that, too.
Hope to hear more about your team!!
Welcome!
The Cats can shoot the ball very well but chucking up 3s isn't our focus - we can also go very cold. We have several guys who can knock them down, include starting SR PG Xavier Bishop (5'8) but he's more of the if the shot clock is winding down he'll launch a deep 3 kind of guy (and makes a lot of those), but he isn't actively looking for a 3. 6'7 SR F/G combo Abdul Mohamed is our best % deep shooter (44.4%) but again he takes it if it's there, we don't really run any plays to get Mohamed an open look. The main shooters who can get hot are 6'8 G Tyler Patterson who doesn't do much else offensively but try and get a catch and shoot 3, and 6'4 180 G Nick Gazelas off the bench who has predominately a catch and shoot guy as well but the last month of the season he's showing he can do a lot more. 6'5 SR G Amin Adamu is a streaky shooting but arguable our most athletic player and our best dribble drive perpetrator, and ahcoring down the post is DPOY JR 6'9 240 lb Jublie Belo who is great at defending the paint but if you get him walking towards the perimeter it's a whole different story. He leads the league in blocks.
The other poster mentioned playing a 10 man rotation, the Cats will easily play 8 and likely 10 as well - unless Tech runs a fast paced crazy tempo offense, which it doesn't sound like they do, I really don't think fatigue is going to be a factor at all in this game.
Biggest issues for MSU will have our posts guard out near the perimeter, not turning the ball over when we drive into the paint, and then size mismatches on defense. We do have guys who can beat defenders off the dribble but obviously that will be more limited against an athletic team like Tech.
MSU needs to come out fast to even keep it within striking distance at half, and even if that happens I fully expect Tech to pull away and win by a dozen or so. If MSU comes out and struggles, it will get ugly fast.
Very good breakdown Celtic.
I'd add though, if the Bobcats get hot especially Battle, look out they can put points up fast. Also watch out for the little guy, he might be small, but he plays like he's 6-6 and he might catch some guys off guard. I think the Cats have to out board TT, shoot the lights out and take care of the ball. If they can do all that they can stay in this game, but that's a big ask Cats D isn't exactly all american status.
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Crushed it, ESPN has TTU at -15.0
it's a -15 just about everywhere.
That is a huge spread for basketball. There's no doubt TTU is the favorite, but I think MSU can cover. The historical average for a 3/14 seed matchup favors the #3 seed about 85% of the time. So, we have about a 1 in 6 chance of pulling off the upset.
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Crushed it, ESPN has TTU at -15.0
it's a -15 just about everywhere.
That is a huge spread for basketball. There's no doubt TTU is the favorite, but I think MSU can cover. The historical average for a 3/14 seed matchup favors the #3 seed about 85% of the time. So, we have about a 1 in 6 chance of pulling off the upset.
In the tourney, especially the first round there are many games with spreads this high. Quick count and the first two days I see 12 games at 15 points or higher. A few in the twenties. 15 is right about where I figured we’d be.
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Crushed it, ESPN has TTU at -15.0
it's a -15 just about everywhere.
That is a huge spread for basketball. There's no doubt TTU is the favorite, but I think MSU can cover. The historical average for a 3/14 seed matchup favors the #3 seed about 85% of the time. So, we have about a 1 in 6 chance of pulling off the upset.
In the tourney, especially the first round there are many games with spreads this high. Quick count and the first two days I see 12 games at 15 points or higher. A few in the twenties. 15 is right about where I figured we’d be.
UMBC was a 20.5 point underdog when they beat Virginia (16 vs 1 seed) Norfolk State was the largest underdog to win when they beat Missouri as a 21.5 point underdog I believe.
Re: TTU/MSU
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:15 pm
by aucat
I bet there will be a great showing from Bobcat fans. I mean think about it. We are not in the best time of year here--kinda the "in between season" when the snow starts to melt. It's a great time to visit a beautiful city and region.
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Crushed it, ESPN has TTU at -15.0
it's a -15 just about everywhere.
That is a huge spread for basketball. There's no doubt TTU is the favorite, but I think MSU can cover. The historical average for a 3/14 seed matchup favors the #3 seed about 85% of the time. So, we have about a 1 in 6 chance of pulling off the upset.
I think the spread is about right. But I also think the cats can absolutely win this game. Danny Sprinkle's dad was my HS coach and Danny was a little boy at my football games and wrestling matches. Coach Sprinkle was an amazing coach and history teacher and I have no doubt that Danny is too. He's obviously very smart and capable. I would not underestimate him at all.
Re: TTU/MSU
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:37 am
by Matador96
A few commonalities with Montana State and Texas Tech. (And by commonalities, I am using a very loose definition).
1. Texas Tech Assistant Coach, Barrett Perry, was Portland State’s Head Coach last year—his 4th year in the Big Sky Conference.
2. Remember Tanner Groves from Eastern Washington? He was the Big Sky Conference MVP last year. He transferred to OU. Tech played him three times this year. Tanner Groves was held to 7 points, total, in all 3 games.
What does this have to do with Friday’s game? Very little—if anything. Hell, it’s a long stretch. But it’s Tuesday morning, I have a staff meeting, and well, I’m not gonna get a lot of work done this week.
I bet there will be a great showing from Bobcat fans. I mean think about it. We are not in the best time of year here--kinda the "in between season" when the snow starts to melt. It's a great time to visit a beautiful city and region.
Hopefully "The Brick South" atmosphere that developed in Boise will transfer even further south, and some MSU students will take an impromptu Spring Break trip to San Diego for the game! Based on the timings of the games, it would likely even be possible for fans to attend the men's game in San Diego at 10:45 AM local time and then hop on a quick flight up to the Bay Area for the women's game at 7:00 PM local time. It's going to be fun!
Both of these teams from the glance (watched a lot of msu, not a ton of ttu) are great defensively, yet can get into some serious offensive ruts. TTUs length and size will definitely hurt MSU but MSU has two big men down low who can score and body up with anyone in the country (assuming Belo is healthy, he wasn’t in the conference tournament) I would not be shocked to see the line be in favor of TTU by over 15, but I think this could be an ugly game (in a good team defense kind of way).
MSU shot lights out in the conference championship. It’ll take all of Tyler Patterson, Nick Gazaleas, and X to shoot well to have a chance. My biggest worry is guarding scoring guards. X does a great job for what he is on the defensive end but at the end of the day if you’re 5’8 guarding a 6’5 guard there’s just always going to be a mismatch.
As Danny Sprinkle said before, why not us to be the upset? If MSU can’t battle it out or come out on top, I think TTU has serious potential to make a deep run. Great team defense never goes out of style and I really like the team build of being long and athletic 1-5 that’s starting to take over basketball (see Toronto Raptors and a more familiar foe, EWU). Passing lanes get clogged up when everyone on the floor has long arms and can switch screens forever.
I wish I could make the trip, but similar to the national championship game, it would have taken more planning on my part before we got to this point, so here’s to waiting for another chance in my lifetime
Crushed it, ESPN has TTU at -15.0
it's a -15 just about everywhere.
That is a huge spread for basketball. There's no doubt TTU is the favorite, but I think MSU can cover. The historical average for a 3/14 seed matchup favors the #3 seed about 85% of the time. So, we have about a 1 in 6 chance of pulling off the upset.
In the tourney, especially the first round there are many games with spreads this high. Quick count and the first two days I see 12 games at 15 points or higher. A few in the twenties. 15 is right about where I figured we’d be.
UMBC was a 20.5 point underdog when they beat Virginia (16 vs 1 seed) Norfolk State was the largest underdog to win when they beat Missouri as a 21.5 point underdog I believe.
