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MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:29 pm
by wapiti
Hasn't Ogden been a tough place for the Cat's to win??
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:40 pm
by MSU01
wapiti wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:29 pm
Hasn't Ogden been a tough place for the Cat's to win??
It has, but MSU beat them by around 30 down there last year in the game that really cemented MSU as league favorites. I expect Weber to play well tonight though after they got embarrassed on Monday against UNC.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:30 pm
by MT2AK_CAT
One of the announcers: “gotta put the brown thing in the round thing”
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:14 pm
by HighPlainsBobcat
Cats only playing 8 tonight. Interesting
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:22 pm
by MSU01
Cats only have 8 points almost halfway through the half. Weber slowly taking control. Who can hit a few shots?
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:25 pm
by WYCAT
We're suddenly in big trouble. Can't score this half and the defense is weak too. Bad combination
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:29 pm
by MSU01
WYCAT wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:25 pm
We're suddenly in big trouble. Can't score this half and the defense is weak too. Bad combination
Weber clearly wants this game a lot more than MSU does.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:34 pm
by WYCAT
Piss poor effort this half. It's sad to watch
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:42 pm
by HighPlainsBobcat
This game was almost predictable. Weber coming off a big loss. Cats riding 9-10 win streak. Fairly obvious who wanted the game more. Dillon Jones is his name.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:08 pm
by Cledus
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before…
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:14 pm
by AFCAT
Such a talented team but……
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:06 pm
by BelgradeBobcat
If we had any delusions of winning the regular season, they died here. Hope we can hold on for the 2 seed. The top 2 get an extra days rest after the quarter final I believe. It's disappointing that this team isn't as good as last year, but they're just not. We can still get it in the tournament though.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:19 pm
by CelticCat
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:06 pm
If we had any delusions of winning the regular season, they died here. Hope we can hold on for the 2 seed. The top 2 get an extra days rest after the quarter final I believe. It's disappointing that this team isn't as good as last year, but they're just not. We can still get it in the tournament though.
Cats actually had 4 conference losses with 6 games to go last year.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:05 am
by BelgradeBobcat
CelticCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:19 pm
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:06 pm
If we had any delusions of winning the regular season, they died here. Hope we can hold on for the 2 seed. The top 2 get an extra days rest after the quarter final I believe. It's disappointing that this team isn't as good as last year, but they're just not. We can still get it in the tournament though.
Cats actually had 4 conference losses with 6 games to go last year.
The horrible outside shooting and long scoring droughts are giving me pause. This team bricks way too many wide open looks. With our inside guys even mediocre outside shooting would make this team pretty unbeatable in this league.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:48 am
by Cledus
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:05 am
CelticCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:19 pm
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:06 pm
If we had any delusions of winning the regular season, they died here. Hope we can hold on for the 2 seed. The top 2 get an extra days rest after the quarter final I believe. It's disappointing that this team isn't as good as last year, but they're just not. We can still get it in the tournament though.
Cats actually had 4 conference losses with 6 games to go last year.
The horrible outside shooting and long scoring droughts are giving me pause. This team bricks way too many wide open looks. With our inside guys even mediocre outside shooting would make this team pretty unbeatable in this league.
I can't help but wonder if the shooting is a symptom and not the actual problem. I only say that because this team looks good for one half and then complete dogsh|t in the second half of a lot of games. So, it seems to be an established pattern. What's going on at half time? "If it ain't broke, let's fix it until it is!"
The stats don't look like a team that collapsed. We lose by 10, but WSU only has one more fg than we do and 8 more FT points. Three pointers are the same, and our FG % is higher than 50%.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:33 pm
by MSU01
Other than last night and maybe the game in Sacramento two weekends ago I don't think I'd agree that MSU routinely plays worse in the second half of games. They've had quite a few games that were close at the half and still ended up winning.
MSU has a better scoring margin (+7.2) in conference games this year than last year's team (+6.5) had - their PPG is down from last year but so is their PPG allowed. So I don't think this year's team is worse than last year's, it's just that 2023 EWU is significantly better than any of MSU's 2022 opponents.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:36 pm
by CelticCat
Weber went to the foul line 8 more times and made 8 more free throws than we did, that's pretty much the difference. We only shot 6-10, Weber 14-18.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:23 pm
by HighPlainsBobcat
Cledus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:48 am
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:05 am
CelticCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:19 pm
BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:06 pm
If we had any delusions of winning the regular season, they died here. Hope we can hold on for the 2 seed. The top 2 get an extra days rest after the quarter final I believe. It's disappointing that this team isn't as good as last year, but they're just not. We can still get it in the tournament though.
Cats actually had 4 conference losses with 6 games to go last year.
The horrible outside shooting and long scoring droughts are giving me pause. This team bricks way too many wide open looks. With our inside guys even mediocre outside shooting would make this team pretty unbeatable in this league.
I can't help but wonder if the shooting is a symptom and not the actual problem. I only say that because this team looks good for one half and then complete dogsh|t in the second half of a lot of games. So, it seems to be an established pattern. What's going on at half time? "If it ain't broke, let's fix it until it is!"
The stats don't look like a team that collapsed. We lose by 10, but WSU only has one more fg than we do and 8 more FT points. Three pointers are the same, and our FG % is higher than 50%.
100% agree here. 11 turn overs by the bigs and we kept riding that pony. Asking JB and GO to handle the ball and make passes they aren’t used to making showed last night.
Only playing 8 after having bench players, 1 in particular, that started the seasons first 7-8 games is troubling. Of course we’re only left guessing and postulating possible’s. The on again off again nature of some of the starters certainly is head scratching.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:06 am
by Bobcat4Ever
MT2AK_CAT wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:30 pm
One of the announcers: “gotta put the brown thing in the round thing”
Joe Cravens, ex Weber coach. He’s their answer to Tech’s Bob Greene. He was a real character while he was the coach, as well.
Re: MBB @ Weber
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 am
by Cledus
MSU01 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:33 pm
Other than last night and maybe the game in Sacramento two weekends ago I don't think I'd agree that MSU routinely plays worse in the second half of games. They've had quite a few games that were close at the half and still ended up winning.
MSU has a better scoring margin (+7.2) in conference games this year than last year's team (+6.5) had - their PPG is down from last year but so is their PPG allowed. So I don't think this year's team is worse than last year's, it's just that 2023 EWU is significantly better than any of MSU's 2022 opponents.
You're correct about the word routinely. It's hard to find the right word when we don't have a ton of losses, but the ones we do seem to have similarities. Except for the Idaho loss, that one was start to finish hot garbage.
Maybe it's a scheme thing, where the coaches are trying to anticipate the other teams' adjustments when just continuing with what built the lead to begin with would be good enough close the deal.
