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No wonder it was so hard to get a date.BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:48 pmMSU is a rare university that has more guys than gals so we don't need more women's sports to balance it out. In most universities there are more gals than guys.
Who is giving us a black eye for not having sports that aren't popular? Those are both niche sports, especially in this region.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:08 pmI've not been able to find a clear explanation why our university has neither of these sports. If it can be explained simply i would appreciate it. I know other lesser institutions have these sports and to me it seems like we are getting a black eye from not having them. Surely we could be just as competitive at them, as we are at nearly every other sport.
Fast pitch is a very popular sport in Montana. Soccer is less so, but it probably is the fastest growing sport in the state. No stats to back up those claims, but I don't think they are a a stretch at all. In answer to your question, I would say we are giving ourselves the black eye. We definitely are not looking like a cutting edge university when it comes to women's sports, also my opinion.coloradocat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:28 pmWho is giving us a black eye for not having sports that aren't popular? Those are both niche sports, especially in this region.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:08 pmI've not been able to find a clear explanation why our university has neither of these sports. If it can be explained simply i would appreciate it. I know other lesser institutions have these sports and to me it seems like we are getting a black eye from not having them. Surely we could be just as competitive at them, as we are at nearly every other sport.
I will have to respectfully disagree with the comment on women’s sports. We have women’s track and field teams and individuals that are performing at a very high level. Skiing, also. Women’s volleyball has a great new locker room and are a rising force. The women’s basketball team also has a great locker room and is hands down the best team in the Big Sky. Those are far from black eyes.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:36 pmFast pitch is a very popular sport in Montana. Soccer is less so, but it probably is the fastest growing sport in the state. No stats to back up those claims, but I don't think they are a a stretch at all. In answer to your question, I would say we are giving ourselves the black eye. We definitely are not looking like a cutting edge university when it comes to women's sports, also my opinion.coloradocat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:28 pmWho is giving us a black eye for not having sports that aren't popular? Those are both niche sports, especially in this region.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:08 pmI've not been able to find a clear explanation why our university has neither of these sports. If it can be explained simply i would appreciate it. I know other lesser institutions have these sports and to me it seems like we are getting a black eye from not having them. Surely we could be just as competitive at them, as we are at nearly every other sport.
Didn't we also sweep the entire Brawl series last year with the exception of volleyball? We're doing just fine.Bobcat4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:29 pmI will have to respectfully disagree with the comment on women’s sports. We have women’s track and field teams and individuals that are performing at a very high level. Skiing, also. Women’s volleyball has a great new locker room and are a rising force. The women’s basketball team also has a great locker room and is hands down the best team in the Big Sky. Those are far from black eyes.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:36 pmFast pitch is a very popular sport in Montana. Soccer is less so, but it probably is the fastest growing sport in the state. No stats to back up those claims, but I don't think they are a a stretch at all. In answer to your question, I would say we are giving ourselves the black eye. We definitely are not looking like a cutting edge university when it comes to women's sports, also my opinion.coloradocat wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:28 pmWho is giving us a black eye for not having sports that aren't popular? Those are both niche sports, especially in this region.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:08 pmI've not been able to find a clear explanation why our university has neither of these sports. If it can be explained simply i would appreciate it. I know other lesser institutions have these sports and to me it seems like we are getting a black eye from not having them. Surely we could be just as competitive at them, as we are at nearly every other sport.
I mean your question has been answered, just seems that you don't want to accept the answer. As has been said the ratio for student-athletes needs to be near the ratio for the entire student population of the university. Given MSU's ratio we match up with the sports we have and adding softball and/or soccer would mean also having to add additional men's sports most likely. Other schools are going to have their own situation and be completely different, simple as that. Sidenote to dovetail with the "move up" in football discussions this is why it may be somewhat easier for MSU than others as we do have these two sports which could be fairly easily added to offset the additional football scholarships of FBS.msu_agfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:46 pmI agree that our current sports are doing great. Women and men's. It only adds to the question why we don't have those two as other schools including UM do . What sports do they have that we don't? I'm genuinely trying to just get a solid answer nailed down.
Just to dovetail off that, Title IX goes both ways.BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:48 pmI'm pretty sure the reason is MSU doesn't need those extra sports is because of the guy to gal ratio. The number of scholarships for men and women has to be in proportion to percentage of each gender. MSU is a rare university that has more guys than gals so we don't need more women's sports to balance it out. In most universities there are more gals than guys.