2026 winter olympics

[SonomaCat]

Let's take Vancouver for example. Last time I was there, the Olympic village where all the athletes stayed was abandoned. Why would it be any different for us, especially considering we're a smaller locale?

For argument's sake, I would think that a bit of smart planning could utilize those facilities for MSU housing after the games and some of it could be repurposed for additional campus building space. I'd think most any building could be utilized by MSU or by businesses in Bozeman after the games ended.

I do think the bobsled runs, etc, could go to waste, although I could also see them being used as training/competition areas or even for tourist purposes afterwards. Again, if somebody else pays for all of this, it could be a great thing (as any benefit is all profit, essentially), but I would readily agree that if one actually had to pay for all of it ourselves, it would be a horrible investment.

Looks like the Vancouver Olympic Village is being utilized for residential purposes:

http://vancouver.ca/home-property-devel ... llage.aspx

[FTG247365]

What about the people who can already barely afford to live there?

What happens to real estate values leading up to the event only to have them drop dramatically when it's all over?

What about the fact that Bozeman is JUST FINE the way it is and doesn't need a bunch more big money to show up and "make it better"?


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FTG06' I agree with you across the board, in theory this cannot be good for Bozeman. People move here because it's a smaller town, for the most part it's still a safe place to live and raise a family. For the people who work hard to just live here and get by aren't going to benefit, it will just push them out. In the short term it will cause inflation similar to what's happening in the Bakkan rent will sky rocket, cause there is already a shortage of rentals in town. There is a million reasons the Olympics would be detrimental to our town.

Hypothically if this gets to the point where the IOC is looking at Bozeman, could the residents of say Gallatin county vote on it?
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[FTG06']

Let's take Vancouver for example. Last time I was there, the Olympic village where all the athletes stayed was abandoned. Why would it be any different for us, especially considering we're a smaller locale?

For argument's sake, I would think that a bit of smart planning could utilize those facilities for MSU housing after the games and some of it could be repurposed for additional campus building space. I'd think most any building could be utilized by MSU or by businesses in Bozeman after the games ended.

I do think the bobsled runs, etc, could go to waste, although I could also see them being used as training/competition areas or even for tourist purposes afterwards. Again, if somebody else pays for all of this, it could be a great thing (as any benefit is all profit, essentially), but I would readily agree that if one actually had to pay for all of it ourselves, it would be a horrible investment.

Looks like the Vancouver Olympic Village is being utilized for residential purposes:

http://vancouver.ca/home-property-devel ... llage.aspx

The Rocky Mountain region already has the training facilities that are in Park City/Salt Lake that are left over from those games a few years back.

The Olympics have become a glut of spending that Montana can't absorb, even through non-conventional means.


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[TIrwin24]

Also:

The total bill for Vancouver’s 2010 Winter Games came to $6.4 billion... Sochi, whose venues and infrastructure had to be built pretty much from scratch, rang in at an anomalous but no less heart-stopping $51 billion.

http://time.com/3462070/olympics-winter-2022/

I think Vancouver included the cost to upgrade the highway between Vancouver and Whistler in that price total. It was a huge construction project that was very tough to build.

[ButteWhat]

This would be a horrible outcome for Montana. It would very much be a Montana issue and event, not just Bozeman. It would be great publicity for the state definitely, but the tax burden would be crippling to Montanas economy for years after. And we all know where the government would be sucking money away to fund the deficit...that's right, Eastern Montana energy economies. The easts oil/gas tax dollars will be no more, and the states coal slush fund..no more!

ButteWhat

[TIrwin24]

I think, if organized and funded correctly, Bozeman/Big Sky could definitely pull off hosting the Olympics.

The area would definitely benefit from the improved facilities, and if done correctly, they could most likely be used by the university for future use as enrollment continues to expand.

[ButteWhat]

I think, if organized and funded correctly, Bozeman/Big Sky could definitely pull off hosting the Olympics.

The area would definitely benefit from the improved facilities, and if done correctly, they could most likely be used by the university for future use as enrollment continues to expand.

And if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.

ButteWhat

[SonomaCat]

I still see absolutely no downside to people trying to put together a proposal for Bozeman. If they pulled it off and were able to find the funding from billionaires or the feds or wherever (as we are all in agreement that local and state tax funds being used is not a reasonable approach), it would be great for Bozeman and Montana. If they failed ... who cares?

I'm putting the odds of them pulling it off at about 10,000 to 1, but it's still kind of a fun idea to cloud talk over.

[Cat Grad]

I know of three projects in my lifetime those on the sidelines laughed, mocked and ridiculed those who came up with the idea and saw the project completed:

1. The MSU Fieldhouse.
2. Big Sky Ski Resort.
3. Silverwood in the state to our west's panhandle.

I realize most who post here have no idea what it was like prior to Ted Turner coming up with the lamebrained idea of bouncing television signals off a satellite or what life was like without cell phones. Come on, the Canucks and Ewe tahhaaahh pulled it off. Certainly we could screw it up less than those three did and besides, the U.S. Olympics with the IOC will arrange the majority of the funding.

Georgia State (which is adjacent to Tech) received very nice dorms complements of the Olympics. Those who would like the Greater Yellowstone Eco System to remain as it "used to be" are out of luck. The area is growing and will continue to grow. Some day we'll probably have to ride buses through Yellowstone as Yosemite does today. Hell, the Gallatin might get one way flights to Cuba or Puerto Rico...

[Silenoz]

Not a good idea.


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Why and for who? MSU and the fans seem like slam dunk winners. All kinds of venue upgrades.

What about the people who can already barely afford to live there?

What happens to real estate values leading up to the event only to have them drop dramatically when it's all over?

What about the fact that Bozeman is JUST FINE the way it is and doesn't need a bunch more big money to show up and "make it better"?


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1. Get a better job or move.
2. Anyone with half a brain can work through that.
3. If it's just fine, then why are people complaining about the traffic and lack of athletic facilities.

Brilliant. I can only assume you're not a Bozeman homeowner...

[LongTimeCatFan]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

[Cat Grad]

Hey! I want to live in Buckhead and send my kids to Westminster High School. If I can't live there, I want to live in Beverly Hills.

Know what? I've got relatives in Sidney, Glendive, Glasgow, Fort Peck, Scobey, Culbertson, Wibaux who had my aunts and uncles homes and let them sit empty ten years ago. Now some of them are getting 3000 a months for dumps. Some have even drug trailer houses over there and they're getting 3000 a month for those things. At least they were before the bottom fell out of oil. Do those rental prices look like what the college kids are paying now?

They are just going to have to suck it up. Kind of like everybody who had been getting a free pass on state land had to do when their "rent" went up. Or the ones with waterfront vacation homes. Y'all were told a long time ago it is expensive to live in Montana. Still is and guess what! It is not going to get any cheaper whether the Olympics come to the Gallatin or not.

[SonomaCat]

Brilliant. I can only assume you're not a Bozeman homeowner...

I'm definitely not endorsing the 3 options that were given, but I would assume that homeowners in Bozeman would be among the prime beneficiaries of this sort of infusion of money into Bozeman.

[SonomaCat]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

Since this is all just cloud talk, I will go ahead and give you a definite answer -- yes, of course MSU could do that!

[LongTimeCatFan]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

Since this is all just cloud talk, I will go ahead and give you a definite answer -- yes, of course MSU could do that!

Ok, so is there any chance that MSU has enough dorm housing to house all of the athletes?

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[SonomaCat]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

Since this is all just cloud talk, I will go ahead and give you a definite answer -- yes, of course MSU could do that!

Ok, so is there any chance that MSU has enough dorm housing to house all of the athletes?

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Nah, they would need to build lots of really nice new dorms to increase the number of rooms/campus capacity ... assuming somebody else if footing the bill, of course.

[LongTimeCatFan]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

Since this is all just cloud talk, I will go ahead and give you a definite answer -- yes, of course MSU could do that!

Ok, so is there any chance that MSU has enough dorm housing to house all of the athletes?

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Nah, they would need to build lots of really nice new dorms to increase the number of rooms/campus capacity ... assuming somebody else if footing the bill, of course.

Yes, assuming somebody else is footing the bill.

I fail to see how dorm update/upgrades would be a bad thing for MSU provided this was done on campus

[coachouert]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

Since this is all just cloud talk, I will go ahead and give you a definite answer -- yes, of course MSU could do that!

Ok, so is there any chance that MSU has enough dorm housing to house all of the athletes?

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Nah, they would need to build lots of really nice new dorms to increase the number of rooms/campus capacity ... assuming somebody else if footing the bill, of course.

Yes, assuming somebody else is footing the bill.

I fail to see how dorm update/upgrades would be a bad thing for MSU provided this was done on campus

The Salt Lake Olympics used University of Utah's dorms when SLC hosted. Lots of construction on Utah's campus for the games.

http://unews.utah.edu/releases/01/jan/olyvillage.html

[LongTimeCatFan]

Just throwing this out there, but could MSU just start the spring semester a week or two later in order to accommodate the athletes in the Dorms? I mean since MSU would be getting massive facilities upgrades.

Since this is all just cloud talk, I will go ahead and give you a definite answer -- yes, of course MSU could do that!

Ok, so is there any chance that MSU has enough dorm housing to house all of the athletes?

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Nah, they would need to build lots of really nice new dorms to increase the number of rooms/campus capacity ... assuming somebody else if footing the bill, of course.

Yes, assuming somebody else is footing the bill.

I fail to see how dorm update/upgrades would be a bad thing for MSU provided this was done on campus

The Salt Lake Olympics used University of Utah's dorms when SLC hosted. Lots of construction on Utah's campus for the games.

http://unews.utah.edu/releases/01/jan/olyvillage.html

So you're saying THERES A CHANCE

[Silenoz]

Brilliant. I can only assume you're not a Bozeman homeowner...

I'm definitely not endorsing the 3 options that were given, but I would assume that homeowners in Bozeman would be among the prime beneficiaries of this sort of infusion of money into Bozeman.

Right, what I meant was anyone who has bought a home in Bozeman since the growth explosion understands just how much of a seller's market it already is. Jack that up even more? Works for me. Everyone going forward may as well just accept their living in Blowgrade however.