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Love contracts in the workplace
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:02 pm
by briannell
BAC- so what do you think about this? In your own backyard , lawyers wanting local companies to accept and endorse 5 page love contracts between employees.
now I grew up in SF, and have always said we're a little wacky there, but I'm SO glad i'm no longer single. Don't think I'd want my boss telling me who i could be romantically involved with, or on what terms. I had a dad who was very good at that up until age 21. After that he just gave up, and i married a FB player anyway!
-rebecca
Re: Love contracts in the workplace
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:40 pm
by SonomaCat
briannell wrote:BAC- so what do you think about this? In your own backyard , lawyers wanting local companies to accept and endorse 5 page love contracts between employees.
now I grew up in SF, and have always said we're a little wacky there, but I'm SO glad i'm no longer single. Don't think I'd want my boss telling me who i could be romantically involved with, or on what terms. I had a dad who was very good at that up until age 21. After that he just gave up, and i married a FB player anyway!
-rebecca
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Do you have a link? It's apparently not a very common practice -- I've never heard of it. Please tell me more....
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 11:15 am
by briannell
oh, my brother is at the firm Sedwick, Dieter & Moran, and this is one of those crazy legal tidbits he tells me. Many employers are now trying to impose them, and he has a client that wants to sue over privacy. i know the story ran on CBS, and was curious if you had heard about it. I know the city keeps getting stranger and stranger since we were kids. Since we grew up in the late '60's and '70's that's really saying a lot.
just curious about your opinion.
-rebecca
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 11:21 am
by SonomaCat
I'm sorry ... I still don't really understand what they are. I'd love to offer an opinion, otherwise.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 11:51 am
by briannell
basically employers in San Francisco (larger companies) in order to avoid future sexual harassment law suits are requiring employees that may be interested in seeing another employee(s) outside of work on a social basis to sign contracts stating that the company is not responsible for what happens. They agree not to sue the employer over sexual harassment.
Both employees, or group of employees than agree to terms and conditions (5 pages) on how they can conduct themselves socially both in the workplace and outside of it.
Sounds to me like they want to parent employees. wondered if you'd heard about this since you are single and living there. Or have you relocated closer to your job? Still jealious about your access to mounds of garlic fries and Giant home games.
- rebecca
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:13 pm
by SonomaCat
briannell wrote:basically employers in San Francisco (larger companies) in order to avoid future sexual harassment law suits are requiring employees that may be interested in seeing another employee(s) outside of work on a social basis to sign contracts stating that the company is not responsible for what happens. They agree not to sue the employer over sexual harassment.
Both employees, or group of employees than agree to terms and conditions (5 pages) on how they can conduct themselves socially both in the workplace and outside of it.
Sounds to me like they want to parent employees. wondered if you'd heard about this since you are single and living there. Or have you relocated closer to your job? Still jealious about your access to mounds of garlic fries and Giant home games.
- rebecca
Huh. I actually haven't heard about those, but having had a couple in-office relationships in the past, I actually think it's not a bad idea from the employer's point of view. In fact, I would have loved for my ex to have signed on to some sort of document acknowledging that certain in-office behavior was inappropriate (like bursting in on a meeting of mine to yell at me for not anticipating that I should have bought her lunch because I should have known that she would be late from her run even though she didn't tell me -- she was a bit psycho). I'd have to read the actual documents to see what all is included, but if it is just a CYA thing by the company and not an effort to dictate who someone can and can't date, then I don't really have a problem with it, and actually think it's not a bad thing.
I still live in SF and work in SJ.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:34 pm
by briannell
sorry about ex - sometimes women from what I have been told can be a little "dramatic", or "too sensative". Or may be it's just that AGR men, are to harsh at times, and need to be more understanding about a womans delicate feelings.
Although i have never done what she did, I have definitely been slapped with the "too sensative" label. And, yes we do expect you to read our minds, or at least always let us be right. She was completely inappropriate, and one on these contracts may be would have helped.
those in office/workplace don't always go so well, but hard to meet people outside of work, because careers these days are so time consuming. Personally, I was hooked up by with Brian via a FB coach at MSU -george booker, and a roommate of his. May be blind dates aren't a terrible thing. BUT -then again my ex-boyfriend was also a FB at MSU, and that too was a hook up, by Sean hill and Guy Millington, and it was REALLY a bad thing. I guess you just have to say what the hell and try it anyway.
- have a great day! Go Giants!!!!
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:25 pm
by Cat-theotherwhitemeat
Employee Handbook:::
Chapter 4, Section 6.1, Sub-section 2, line 1
"
Don't dip the pen in Company Ink"
That is all.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:21 pm
by briannell
good one. wished I'd heard that before the first FB
But the second time around worked, at least for now it still does. Don't know I thought 3rd times the charm, but don't know if I'd ever want another Bobcat, even if I could. i think if i had to be single and try this again, I wouldn't dabble in company ink, unless i worked for the PBR and than Justin McBride would have to watch himself.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:24 pm
by SonomaCat
Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:Employee Handbook:::
Chapter 4, Section 6.1, Sub-section 2, line 1
"
Don't dip the pen in Company Ink"
That is all.
I finally incorporated that section into my own personal bylaws as well ... after about the 4th dipping incident. I'm a slow learner.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 3:29 pm
by HelenaCat95
good one. wished I'd heard that before the first FB But the second time around worked, at least for now it still does. Don't know I thought 3rd times the charm, but don't know if I'd ever want another Bobcat, even if I could. i think if i had to be single and try this again, I wouldn't dabble in company ink, unless i worked for the PBR and than Justin McBride would have to watch himself.
Rebecca,
You might want to sign your name at the bottom of this one.
To the unintiated, it seems like Brian....well....you know.....
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
- Jerry Seinfeld
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:59 am
by briannell
sorry- my bad.
no brian doesn't dabble in company ink (no he's not gay!) As for us we're pretty mellow, I'm a nice wife. I'm allowed to dabble with Justin McBride, he gets Pam Anderson.
Sorry BAC had bad luck at work, It feels odd when it doesn't work out and you still have to see that person in the office. Worst I had happen to me was that I chose to change athletic training from a major to minor to avoid conflict.
I will sign my posts.
- rebecca
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:11 am
by HelenaCat95
Rebecca-
I know....just joshin ya.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:34 am
by briannell
helena -
no biggie, i don't worry about the gay thing, I know he's not.
now had you implied that he had previously at some point in his life spent too much time around sheep, i might have to worry
my mom (born and bred in MT) always told me with Montana men, you only really have to worry about losing out to a ewe.
-rebecca