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No, you're reading it exactly right. And the doctors are probably correct not to do it, based only on my own (very very) elementary understanding of the ethical code that doctors live by.Ponycat wrote:Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems to me the Doctors wont do this because it would violate the hippocratic oath.
Again maybe I'm reading this wrong, but that's how I read it.
I know that is true. But I have never heard any other cases of death row inmates claiming that lethal injection was cruel and unusual. And it's very hard to feel too badly for a man who may feel a little pain in his demise. Most people do feel pain when they pass, it's just part of life. Or the ending of.Grizlaw wrote:Not that I feel any sympathy toward murderers and rapists, but if we're going to have an Eighth Amendment, it has to mean something. I don't know much about the science behind lethal injection, but whether or not it constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" cannot depend on how heinous the criminal is who's being punished; it either is unconstitutional or it isn't...
I believe cruel and unusual punishment was the reasoning the US Supreme Court used to outlaw the death penalty in the 70's before later overturning it.ChiOCat wrote: I know that is true. But I have never heard any other cases of death row inmates claiming that lethal injection was cruel and unusual. And it's very hard to feel too badly for a man who may feel a little pain in his demise. Most people do feel pain when they pass, it's just part of life. Or the ending of.
Hanging was on MT lawbooks until not too long ago wasn't it?
I think hanging might still be one of the optional methods of execution to this day in Montana, actually. I haven't seen the statute in about five years, though...ChiOCat wrote: I know that is true. But I have never heard any other cases of death row inmates claiming that lethal injection was cruel and unusual. And it's very hard to feel too badly for a man who may feel a little pain in his demise. Most people do feel pain when they pass, it's just part of life. Or the ending of.
Hanging was on MT lawbooks until not too long ago wasn't it?
I believe that if an inmate wishes, they can choose to be hung but the needle is the way most will get it. I know myself, I would feel very bad if a convicted murderer and rapist got an infection from the needle when they were sentenced to deathGrizlaw wrote:I think hanging might still be one of the optional methods of execution to this day in Montana, actually. I haven't seen the statute in about five years, though...ChiOCat wrote: I know that is true. But I have never heard any other cases of death row inmates claiming that lethal injection was cruel and unusual. And it's very hard to feel too badly for a man who may feel a little pain in his demise. Most people do feel pain when they pass, it's just part of life. Or the ending of.
Hanging was on MT lawbooks until not too long ago wasn't it?
By the way, I'm not necessarily arguing that lethal injection is cruel and unusual; I don't know if it is or not. All I'm saying is that we can't dismiss the question just because the people we're executing are really really bad people...
I think when I was in college they executed a man here, and he chose hanging as his method of execution. It was ruled cruel and unusual, and I assumed taken off the books then.Grizlaw wrote:I think hanging might still be one of the optional methods of execution to this day in Montana, actually. I haven't seen the statute in about five years, though...ChiOCat wrote: I know that is true. But I have never heard any other cases of death row inmates claiming that lethal injection was cruel and unusual. And it's very hard to feel too badly for a man who may feel a little pain in his demise. Most people do feel pain when they pass, it's just part of life. Or the ending of.
Hanging was on MT lawbooks until not too long ago wasn't it?
By the way, I'm not necessarily arguing that lethal injection is cruel and unusual; I don't know if it is or not. All I'm saying is that we can't dismiss the question just because the people we're executing are really really bad people...
You're right; they did amend the statute, and lethal injection is the only available method now. It looks like the 1997 legislature is the one that made the change. (Here's the link, if anyone cares):ChiOCat wrote:I think when I was in college they executed a man here, and he chose hanging as his method of execution. It was ruled cruel and unusual, and I assumed taken off the books then.
The reason Law and Order continues to be my favorite TV show is they compellingly show both sides of arguements such as that.
The thing about Law & Order is that most of the legal issues that get raised in the show are fairly realistic, and the legal analysis is usually correct. Some of their episodes are based on famous Supreme Court cases, too (like the "Christian burial" case).ChiOCat wrote:I wondered if you could still watch it, being in the profession.