Equitable Univeristy Athletic Funding

[Eastcoastgriz]

Cledus, are you really that stupid?? UM's defict was repaid by our Ath. Dept. just like MSU's was repaid by yours...

No, I'm not stupid you f**king ***hole. I have this on pretty damn good authority. This person isn't some trust fund, snot-nosed recent graduate. If she says it happened, it happened.

I'll see what I can do to produce some documentation.

Going to have to go with info197176 clledus.

"If she says it happened, it happened." You can't really believe this!!

I have it on good authority that the GRIZ paid youe deficit off in full.

[Cledus]

Going to have to go with info197176 clledus.

"If she says it happened, it happened." You can't really believe this!!

I have it on good authority that the GRIZ paid youe deficit off in full.

Of course you'll agree with him. I at least said I'll check up on the documentation to support what she said, even though her word is impeccable. And I will.

If you can prove the Jizz paid off their debt in full with no outside assistance, I encourage you to do just that.

Or, you can sit there somewhere on the Eastern seaboard and say that they did until you're green in the gills, which is what I fully expect you will do.

[Eastcoastgriz]

Going to have to go with info197176 clledus.

"If she says it happened, it happened." You can't really believe this!!

I have it on good authority that the GRIZ paid youe deficit off in full.

Of course you'll agree with him. I at least said I'll check up on the documentation to support what she said, even though her word is impeccable. And I will.

If you can prove the Jizz paid off their debt in full with no outside assistance, I encourage you to do just that.

Or, you can sit there somewhere on the Eastern seaboard and say that they did until you're green in the gills, which is what I fully expect you will do.

First, I live in Montana

2nd, how could it be the cats responsiblity to pay for our mistakes??
Where is the logic in that?

[orsalak]

Should all monies, including donations, contributions and cash derived from boosters and benefactors be equally divided amongst the two major universities in Montana, to make an equitable playing field for all, instead of one reaping great benefits of wealthy contributors at the expense of the other university's athletic teams? Cat vs Griz??????????

That sounds a lot like what Stalin was preaching!!!

[nevadacat]

Lets split the monies amongst all the colleges in Montana, that is even a better idea yet. You want to support Montana, give to Montana. You want to be selfish and greedy and only have YOUR money given to your team, give it to charity instead. This is the kind of greediness that breeds hate and contempt amongst Montanans.

Wow. Am I embarrassed. Now I see the light.

When I send my annual donations to the MSU Library, College of Letters and Sciences, and the ASA, I will take heart in the fact that some of it will go to the betterment of UM, Western, Billings, Northern, Tech, and the rest of the system. Others can sleep easy because a share of theirs will go to me. Then, all of us donors will get together and hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and pat ourselves on the back for being good little socialists.

Now, the fact that the programs I support will actually get LESS money in the end does not concern me. I'll feel better about myself having done my part to stem greediness, contempt, and hate among Montanans.

We are the world, we are the children, ....

[Grizlaw]

This person isn't some trust fund, snot-nosed recent graduate. If she says it happened, it happened.

I'm not insulting anyone's intelligence or integrity here, but I have a feeling this is going to turn out to be one of those things that is highly subject to interpretation.

Money is fungible, so to the extent that any money paid by MSU students goes into the general fund for the Montana university system, and to the extent that a certain portion of that money ends up in UM's coffers, one could argue that student fees paid by MSU students went to subsidize UM's deficit. One could also argue the same thing about UM students' fees subsidizing MSU's deficit, or about fees paid by students of both schools subsidizing all sorts of things for the other school, or etc. If that offends anybody, then the only solution I know of is to completely uncouple the two schools.

The solution suggested by this thread, however, is a terrible idea, IMO. If a donor contributes money to a specific school and wants to earmark it for a particular purpose, then he should be able to do so, without the funds being diverted to another school (or even used for a purpose other than the donor's intended one at the school he donated it to). A rule like this would infringe on the freedom of benefactors to donate money as they see fit.

[MoBoCat]

TO THE BOBCAT NATION:

To all who oppose the idea in this thread, GET OUT YOUR CHECKBOOKS AND START WRITING then because at this point in time the GRIZ are kicking some butt bigtime. Just look around and see what they have built with their $$$$$$$$$$$$$$: contributed by we all know who. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, pork up because we are behind 3-22 in the last 25 years and that is not FUNNY! WE need to get back in the game!!!! Obviously we are losing the $$$$$$$$$$ game as well.

[Air_Griz]

Weren't MSU student tuition / fees raised to help offset dUMb's $1 million shortfall? That's what I keep hearing from people who graduated from Bozeman in the last couple of years.

If that's the case, dUMb should in part subsidize our new sky boxes so the Cats can bring in an additional $500,000 per year. For ourselves, of course.

That sounds fair to me.

*looks down at watch to note the seconds it takes the Jizz to reply there's no way something like that could ever happen*

Cledus:

Let's work on your math. UM draws 11,000 more per home game at an average ticket price of $20.00. That's $220,000. Add an additional $50,000 per game in additional concessions and UM makes $270,000 more per home game. That comes to a quick $1.6 Million in additional revenue over and above MSU. That's just FB. UM also outdraws MSU in Mens and Womens BB.

In the end analysis, everyone knows that MSU athletics is funded with far more state dollars than UM athletics. You have no credibility even making such an outlandish statement.

[Doc]

I am a Furman graduate so I don't have a dog in this fight, but telling alums that their donations are not going to go to their school is a great way to reduce donations to a minimum. That would reduce the gap between Montana and Montana State by reducing the total dollars that each school gets. What a great plan!

[blueandgoldforever]

No kidding! I only want my money to go to MSU. I think others would feel the same way!