Bobby Hauck Story

[crazycat]

Meeting Hauck isn't hard to do, you should try it yourself, you might learn something.

Although I go to lots of booster functions, I don’t need to go there to see him. I can go to his parents (Eleanor and Bob) or his little Katie’s. If YOU would spend a little time with him, you would know how ridicules you sound

Exactly. The first clue to his ****** was his "tense and nervous" accusation. That ain't Hauck the two times I shook hands with him. I thought he was cocky and arrogant.....the polar opposites of tense and nervous. Cocky and arrogant is all right with me anyway....I know I am.

Cocky and arrogant are byproducts of tense and nervous. (This is where you would take jabs at "the two times I shook hands with him." Hilarious. I guess I need to claim that "YOU'VE NEVER MET THE MAN!" Drrr, duh.

If you guys could get through a post without all the name calling, people might take you more seriously. You can't stand that someone has a different opinion of the guy. Even when it's a substantial number of people. Just live with it and get over it. No one is belittling what you think of him.

[crazycat]

Good. Then we agree. It may not be unethical, but it shows poor decision-making ability to knowingly bring in players of poor character.

Unfortunately Bobby, unlike you is human. Guess what, humans make mistakes. You make the best decision you can at the time and more forward. One of the things I have liked about both msu and UM that we have been willing to give a student a second chance.

I agree with you 100 percent. You're admitting Hauck made a mistake. That's all I've been saying. I have a strong feeling we won't see him bringing in anymore guys with priors. Anything I'm saying is that I'm puzzled as to why he ever would since UM has a great team anyway. I don't think he improved your team by doing this. You have to admit, that's puzzling.

[tampa_griz]

Cocky and arrogant are byproducts of tense and nervous.

Wow. That makes absolutely no friggin' sense. I suppose now we're supposed to believe that you're speaking as a lying, hypocritical, ass-raper apologizing, dime-store psychologist? That actually might explain your ass-raping excuses. But seriously, is there no bottom to your lies?

If you guys could get through a post without all the name calling, people might take you more seriously. You can't stand that someone has a different opinion of the guy. Even when it's a substantial number of people. Just live with it and get over it. No one is belittling what you think of him.

If you could actually through a single post without lying about yourself, contradicting yourself, apologizing for ass-rapers, or wishing you were more important than you think you are we might take you seriously. Whose ass are you trying to finger anyway? No one here's interested.

P.S. You're a lying hypocrite.

[crazycat]

Cocky and arrogant are byproducts of tense and nervous.

Wow. That makes absolutely no friggin' sense. I suppose now we're supposed to believe that you're speaking as a lying, hypocritical, ass-raper apologizing, dime-store psychologist? That actually might explain your ass-raping excuses. But seriously, is there no bottom to your lies?

If you guys could get through a post without all the name calling, people might take you more seriously. You can't stand that someone has a different opinion of the guy. Even when it's a substantial number of people. Just live with it and get over it. No one is belittling what you think of him.

If you could actually through a single post without lying about yourself, contradicting yourself, apologizing for ass-rapers, or wishing you were more important than you think you are we might take you seriously. Whose ass are you trying to finger anyway? No one here's interested.

P.S. You're a lying hypocrite.

It's called masking. Pretty basic stuff.
Also known as the persona, the mask is the appearance someone presents of himself. It's not an intentional misrepresentation of the self to others. It's the person as self-derived, and may change according to situation and context. So the tense and nervous person may appear grounded and in control in one setting, while seeming cocky and aloof in another.


I'm not trying to finger anyone's ass, you however sound like you have something of substantial size up yours. Whenever you want to lighten up, feel free.

[tampa_griz]

Cocky and arrogant are byproducts of tense and nervous.

Wow. That makes absolutely no friggin' sense. I suppose now we're supposed to believe that you're speaking as a lying, hypocritical, ass-raper apologizing, dime-store psychologist? That actually might explain your ass-raping excuses. But seriously, is there no bottom to your lies?

If you guys could get through a post without all the name calling, people might take you more seriously. You can't stand that someone has a different opinion of the guy. Even when it's a substantial number of people. Just live with it and get over it. No one is belittling what you think of him.

If you could actually through a single post without lying about yourself, contradicting yourself, apologizing for ass-rapers, or wishing you were more important than you think you are we might take you seriously. Whose ass are you trying to finger anyway? No one here's interested.

P.S. You're a lying hypocrite.

It's called masking. Pretty basic stuff.
Also known as the persona, the mask is the appearance someone presents of himself. It's not an intentional misrepresentation of the self to others. It's the person as self-derived, and may change according to situation and context. So the tense and nervous person may appear grounded and in control in one setting, while seeming cocky and aloof in another.


I'm not trying to finger anyone's ass, you however sound like you have something of substantial size up yours. Whenever you want to lighten up, feel free.

It's official. "Dime-store" psychology is now a part of your lying, hypocritical, ass-raper apologizing schtick.

You're such a hypocrite. Ya just don't get to talk sh!t about Bobby anymore crazy. Sorry. But this post will always come back. But it's all right. You're best friends with him anyway so you can just tell him yourself.

[cats2506]

Tampa has lost it, he can no longer back his position so he attacks using name calling and anything else he can think of and make up, go ahead call me names now. I have changed my opinion of you based on this thread.

[grizatwork]

Cocky and arrogant are byproducts of tense and nervous.

Wow. That makes absolutely no friggin' sense. I suppose now we're supposed to believe that you're speaking as a lying, hypocritical, ass-raper apologizing, dime-store psychologist? That actually might explain your ass-raping excuses. But seriously, is there no bottom to your lies?

If you guys could get through a post without all the name calling, people might take you more seriously. You can't stand that someone has a different opinion of the guy. Even when it's a substantial number of people. Just live with it and get over it. No one is belittling what you think of him.

If you could actually through a single post without lying about yourself, contradicting yourself, apologizing for ass-rapers, or wishing you were more important than you think you are we might take you seriously. Whose ass are you trying to finger anyway? No one here's interested.

P.S. You're a lying hypocrite.

It's called masking. Pretty basic stuff.
Also known as the persona, the mask is the appearance someone presents of himself. It's not an intentional misrepresentation of the self to others. It's the person as self-derived, and may change according to situation and context. So the tense and nervous person may appear grounded and in control in one setting, while seeming cocky and aloof in another.


I'm not trying to finger anyone's ass, you however sound like you have something of substantial size up yours. Whenever you want to lighten up, feel free.

Unless you are his psychologist, you are speculating. That is just wrong. One could speculate that cocky and arrogant are byproducts of just being better than you. That would be wrong too. Fine, you don't like him. That is your right. You are going beyond the pale by trying to psychoanlyze someone based on what you know about him.

[tampa_griz]

Unless you are his psychologist, you are speculating. That is just wrong. One could speculate that cocky and arrogant are byproducts of just being better than you. That would be wrong too. Fine, you don't like him. That is your right. You are going beyond the pale by trying to psychoanlyze someone based on what you know about him.

Wrong GAW. Crazycat has a first-name relationship with BH. Just ask him. He's a big booster. Just ask him.

[Eastcoastgriz]

Good. Then we agree. It may not be unethical, but it shows poor decision-making ability to knowingly bring in players of poor character.

Unfortunately Bobby, unlike you is human. Guess what, humans make mistakes. You make the best decision you can at the time and more forward. One of the things I have liked about both msu and UM that we have been willing to give a student a second chance.

I agree with you 100 percent. You're admitting Hauck made a mistake. That's all I've been saying. I have a strong feeling we won't see him bringing in anymore guys with priors. Anything I'm saying is that I'm puzzled as to why he ever would since UM has a great team anyway. I don't think he improved your team by doing this. You have to admit, that's puzzling.

I'm not puzzled.

Do you know all the facts about the kids he brings in?? When he (or his coaches) were visiting with the students, parents, coaches etc, etc, were you a part of the conversation. Do you have any idea of comments made by the student and coaches?

As I stated before I hope we haven't stopped giving deserving students a 2nd chance.

[tampa_griz]

Tampa has lost it, he can no longer back his position so he attacks using name calling and anything else he can think of and make up, go ahead call me names now. I have changed my opinion of you based on this thread.

Yeah?

It's good to know that you're above calling people names. But kinda sad (for you on numerous occasions) that search engines consistently work in my favor when it comes to your posts. How many times do I have to correct you? What part of your opinion of me has changed? Whatever.......

I'm the one making sh*t up? Please tell me you have enough respect for yourself to not lay claim to that charge in this thread.

Do yourself a favor and bring a better game the next time you wanna take a shot at me. I've embarrassed you so many times I'm starting to get bored with it. And until you improve you'll be ignored from now on.

[crazycat]

Cocky and arrogant are byproducts of tense and nervous.

Wow. That makes absolutely no friggin' sense. I suppose now we're supposed to believe that you're speaking as a lying, hypocritical, ass-raper apologizing, dime-store psychologist? That actually might explain your ass-raping excuses. But seriously, is there no bottom to your lies?

If you guys could get through a post without all the name calling, people might take you more seriously. You can't stand that someone has a different opinion of the guy. Even when it's a substantial number of people. Just live with it and get over it. No one is belittling what you think of him.

If you could actually through a single post without lying about yourself, contradicting yourself, apologizing for ass-rapers, or wishing you were more important than you think you are we might take you seriously. Whose ass are you trying to finger anyway? No one here's interested.

P.S. You're a lying hypocrite.

It's called masking. Pretty basic stuff.
Also known as the persona, the mask is the appearance someone presents of himself. It's not an intentional misrepresentation of the self to others. It's the person as self-derived, and may change according to situation and context. So the tense and nervous person may appear grounded and in control in one setting, while seeming cocky and aloof in another.


I'm not trying to finger anyone's ass, you however sound like you have something of substantial size up yours. Whenever you want to lighten up, feel free.

Unless you are his psychologist, you are speculating. That is just wrong. One could speculate that cocky and arrogant are byproducts of just being better than you. That would be wrong too. Fine, you don't like him. That is your right. You are going beyond the pale by trying to psychoanlyze someone based on what you know about him.

This is where you guys get so twisted up. It is just speculating. I have an opinion about him, someone asked me why I said that and I gave the reason. You can't handle the answer. I'm just explaining what masking is to someone that apparently didn't know.

[crazycat]

Good. Then we agree. It may not be unethical, but it shows poor decision-making ability to knowingly bring in players of poor character.

Unfortunately Bobby, unlike you is human. Guess what, humans make mistakes. You make the best decision you can at the time and more forward. One of the things I have liked about both msu and UM that we have been willing to give a student a second chance.

I agree with you 100 percent. You're admitting Hauck made a mistake. That's all I've been saying. I have a strong feeling we won't see him bringing in anymore guys with priors. Anything I'm saying is that I'm puzzled as to why he ever would since UM has a great team anyway. I don't think he improved your team by doing this. You have to admit, that's puzzling.

I'm not puzzled.

Do you know all the facts about the kids he brings in?? When he (or his coaches) were visiting with the students, parents, coaches etc, etc, were you a part of the conversation. Do you have any idea of comments made by the student and coaches?

As I stated before I hope we haven't stopped giving deserving students a 2nd chance.

I hope we don't quit giving deserving students second chances, too.

How many facts do you need to know? Quinn, Russum and Coleman had enough bad facts hanging over them and, considering the solid nature of UM's football program, it was a huge risk to bring these guys in. The risk/reward is very low. UM was going to be very good with or without these three guys.

Despite all that isn't this just a simple issue? Hauck did bring in some bad boys and it has become a needlessly embarrassing situation for the school and the state of Montana. It is then compounded when it is discovered that these guys (Coleman and Quinn), that have gotten into more trouble after coming to Montana, had legal problems prior to coming here.

And despite all that I hope deserving students get a second chance. The key word being deserving. I think a student that gets their first DUI or a MIP or steals a book from the book store or eggs a house deserves a second chance.

[tampa_griz]

And despite all that I hope deserving students get a second chance. The key word being deserving. I think a student that gets their first DUI or a MIP or steals a book from the book store or eggs a house deserves a second chance.

What about someone who holds somone down, pulls down his pants, grabs their genetalia, and puts his fingers in their butts.....on more than one occasion. Do they get a second chance too? If even they were considering playing for the Griz?

[crazycat]

And despite all that I hope deserving students get a second chance. The key word being deserving. I think a student that gets their first DUI or a MIP or steals a book from the book store or eggs a house deserves a second chance.

What about someone who holds somone down, pulls down his pants, grabs their genetalia, and puts his fingers in their butts.....on more than one occasion. Do they get a second chance too? If even they were considering playing for the Griz?

The scenario you describe doesn't pertain to anyone that we've talked about on this board pertaining to the high school 15-year old. Even in the few areas you're somewhat accurate, you've exaggerated...a common theme in all your posts.

This is an excerpt from mslacat's original post:

Here is the catch 2 1/2 years ago he and some of his High school team mates got into some trouble with some hazing of younger players on his high school team. The were "piling on" (everyone essentially jumps on top of the guy in one big pile" the younger players.

******** This next part gets a little graphic ********

During the pile our prospective recruit was accused of grabbing and yanking on the victims private parts, and sticking a digit in a place only doctors should place a digit.

I think you need to go back and read mslacat's post on this topic before you dig yourself in even deeper.

Otherwise if someone does what you describe, then no they probably shouldn't get a second chance. You're talking about multiple infractions over a period of time and I'm assuming this person has been reprimanded at least once.

[tampa_griz]

The scenario you describe doesn't pertain to anyone that we've talked about on this board pertaining to the high school 15-year old. Even in the few areas you're somewhat accurate, you've exaggerated...a common theme in all your posts.

This is an excerpt from mslacat's original post:

Here is the catch 2 1/2 years ago he and some of his High school team mates got into some trouble with some hazing of younger players on his high school team. The were "piling on" (everyone essentially jumps on top of the guy in one big pile" the younger players.

******** This next part gets a little graphic ********

During the pile our prospective recruit was accused of grabbing and yanking on the victims private parts, and sticking a digit in a place only doctors should place a digit.

Sounds like your apologizing for sticking thumbs and fingers in people's bum-bums again cc.

You're a hypocrite.

[crazycat]

The scenario you describe doesn't pertain to anyone that we've talked about on this board pertaining to the high school 15-year old. Even in the few areas you're somewhat accurate, you've exaggerated...a common theme in all your posts.

This is an excerpt from mslacat's original post:

Here is the catch 2 1/2 years ago he and some of his High school team mates got into some trouble with some hazing of younger players on his high school team. The were "piling on" (everyone essentially jumps on top of the guy in one big pile" the younger players.

******** This next part gets a little graphic ********

During the pile our prospective recruit was accused of grabbing and yanking on the victims private parts, and sticking a digit in a place only doctors should place a digit.

Sounds like your apologizing for sticking thumbs and fingers in people's bum-bums again cc.

You're a hypocrite.

"Tampa Griz just took a shot to the chin. He's wobbling...he stumbles to the canvas. Down goes Tampa! Down goes Tampa! "

At least before you'd make a decent attempt. Now you're just grasping for musical notes. Do you hear the little birdies tweeting, too?

[tampa_griz]

The scenario you describe doesn't pertain to anyone that we've talked about on this board pertaining to the high school 15-year old. Even in the few areas you're somewhat accurate, you've exaggerated...a common theme in all your posts.

This is an excerpt from mslacat's original post:

Here is the catch 2 1/2 years ago he and some of his High school team mates got into some trouble with some hazing of younger players on his high school team. The were "piling on" (everyone essentially jumps on top of the guy in one big pile" the younger players.

******** This next part gets a little graphic ********

During the pile our prospective recruit was accused of grabbing and yanking on the victims private parts, and sticking a digit in a place only doctors should place a digit.

Sounds like your apologizing for sticking thumbs and fingers in people's bum-bums again cc.

You're a hypocrite.

"Tampa Griz just took a shot to the chin. He's wobbling...he stumbles to the canvas. Down goes Tampa! Down goes Tampa! "

At least before you'd make a decent attempt. Now you're just grasping for musical notes. Do you hear the little birdies tweeting, too?

What are you talking about? You're delusional. What's next? You gonna tell us you're on a first-name basis with Bobby Hauck?

And you're a hypocrite.

[crazycat]

The scenario you describe doesn't pertain to anyone that we've talked about on this board pertaining to the high school 15-year old. Even in the few areas you're somewhat accurate, you've exaggerated...a common theme in all your posts.

This is an excerpt from mslacat's original post:

Here is the catch 2 1/2 years ago he and some of his High school team mates got into some trouble with some hazing of younger players on his high school team. The were "piling on" (everyone essentially jumps on top of the guy in one big pile" the younger players.

******** This next part gets a little graphic ********

During the pile our prospective recruit was accused of grabbing and yanking on the victims private parts, and sticking a digit in a place only doctors should place a digit.

Sounds like your apologizing for sticking thumbs and fingers in people's bum-bums again cc.

You're a hypocrite.

"Tampa Griz just took a shot to the chin. He's wobbling...he stumbles to the canvas. Down goes Tampa! Down goes Tampa! "

At least before you'd make a decent attempt. Now you're just grasping for musical notes. Do you hear the little birdies tweeting, too?

What are you talking about? You're delusional. What's next? You gonna tell us you're on a first-name basis with Bobby Hauck?

And you're a hypocrite.

I am on a first name basis with Bobby Hauck. That's just eating you alive isn't it?

[tampa_griz]

I am on a first name basis with Bobby Hauck. That's just eating you alive isn't it?

You're just a liar. And a hypocrite.

[crazycat]

I am on a first name basis with Bobby Hauck. That's just eating you alive isn't it?

You're just a liar. And a hypocrite.

I notice you're not including your line about the finger's' and butt's' and 'multiple' occassions anymore. How come?

Anyhoo, here it is in case you want to start stepping in it, I mean using it again.

TG: What about someone who holds somone down, pulls down his pants, grabs their genetalia, and puts his fingers in their butts.....on more than one occasion. Do they get a second chance too? If even they were considering playing for the Griz?


CC: The scenario you describe doesn't pertain to anyone that we've talked about on this board pertaining to the high school 15-year old. Even in the few areas you're somewhat accurate, you've exaggerated...a common theme in all your posts.

CC: This is an excerpt from mslacat's original post:

Quote:
Here is the catch 2 1/2 years ago he and some of his High school team mates got into some trouble with some hazing of younger players on his high school team. The were "piling on" (everyone essentially jumps on top of the guy in one big pile" the younger players.

******** This next part gets a little graphic ********

During the pile our prospective recruit was accused of grabbing and yanking on the victims private parts, and sticking a digit in a place only doctors should place a digit.

CC: I think you need to go back and read mslacat's post on this topic before you dig yourself in even deeper.

CC: Otherwise if someone does what you describe, then no they probably shouldn't get a second chance. You're talking about multiple infractions over a period of time and I'm assuming this person has been reprimanded at least once