Nobody wants Bobby

[John K]

I always mark the date and place of the NC game just in case. I don't schedule anything for that time frame.

WHY?? There is absolutely no chance of the cats getting there again.

Hardy-har-har. That's so funny I forgot to laugh. You're a regular Todd DelaMuca.

So where's GrizLaw? I thought we'd have a deal by now. I'm willing to say UM is 0.8-7 in road games. Not as good as our 1-2, but it gets off the .000 win Pct.

Weak. Montana beat Marshall and Furman on the road.

Furman was neutral site....not a "road game", unless Furman moved their campus to Chatanooga sometime prior to December 2001? But, I do count the Marshall victory as a true road win, not just "0.8". I don't really think this should be so hard to grasp for anyone. Game played in home city and home stadium of one of the participants....home game for Marshall/road game for UM, regardless of whether NCAA technically considers it to be neutral site. Game played in neither team's home city or home stadium....neutral site for both teams, neither home nor road game for either team, and not to be counted as a road win by winning team. Isn't this pretty logical?....seems very straightforward to me!!!!

[GrizinWashington]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

[crazycat]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

Oooooo....GiW just called Tampa Griz dark and confused.

[HelenaCat95]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

Oooooo....GiW just called Tampa Griz dark and confused.

And because of that, Al Sharpton just call for GiW to be fired.

[John K]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

So, you agree that Furman-2001 is certainly not to be considered a road game????

[GrizinWashington]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

So, you agree that Furman-2001 is certainly not to be considered a road game????

Absolutely. That was a "neutral site" game. 1995 was as road-gamish as they come, however.

[John K]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

So, you agree that Furman-2001 is certainly not to be considered a road game????

Absolutely. That was a "neutral site" game. 1995 was as road-gamish as they come, however.

OK....I guess we are in agreement on this.

[John K]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

So, you agree that Furman-2001 is certainly not to be considered a road game????

Absolutely. That was a "neutral site" game. 1995 was as road-gamish as they come, however.

OK....I guess we are in agreement on this.

Reaching total agreement with GIW on this point is difficult for me to deal with....must think of some something to say that will purge "feel good" atmosphere from Smack Talk thread....GIW surely also agrees that 5-4 home playoff record is major decline from 17-2?

[cats2506]

John K, the voice of reason in an otherwise dark and confused BCN.

So, you agree that Furman-2001 is certainly not to be considered a road game????

Absolutely. That was a "neutral site" game. 1995 was as road-gamish as they come, however.

OK....I guess we are in agreement on this.

Reaching total agreement with GIW on this point is difficult for me to deal with....must think of some something to say that will purge "feel good" atmosphere from Smack Talk thread....GIW surely also agrees that 5-4 home playoff record is major decline from 17-2?

FTG

[tampa_griz]

No, it was in a stadium. Marshall gift-wrapped it with 15 penalties and Furman's star RB (Eddie Lee Ivory) was out. But, I'm sure you knew that. A pair of tainted wins. "Gifts" as your really good coach calls them.

When Montana beat Marshall on the road in their home stadium they made them make a lot of mistakes. And when Montana beat Furman on the road Furman's star RB was not Eddie Lee Ivory. It was Louis Ivory and they shut him down pretty good. He said Montana's defense was just too good to overcome. Good teams do that in road victories.

[GrizinWashington]

I laughed at cc's "Eddie Lee Ivory" comment also, Tampa. But I've gotten used to him not having a clue.

Furman All-American running back Louis Ivory, who missed the last two games with a knee injury found little room to roam against UM's defense. Ivory carried the ball 12 times for just 33 yards, his lowest total in three years as a starter. His longest run was a 10-yarder. Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse.

"It's just that Montana's defense was really good," Ivory said. "If I wasn't 100 percent, I wouldn't put my team in that situation. I felt like I could be really effective. I think I was at the top of my game. Montana's defense was just really good. They did a real good job."

[tampa_griz]

I laughed at cc's "Eddie Lee Ivory" comment also, Tampa. But I've gotten used to him not having a clue.

Furman All-American running back Louis Ivory, who missed the last two games with a knee injury found little room to roam against UM's defense. Ivory carried the ball 12 times for just 33 yards, his lowest total in three years as a starter. His longest run was a 10-yarder. Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse.

"It's just that Montana's defense was really good," Ivory said. "If I wasn't 100 percent, I wouldn't put my team in that situation. I felt like I could be really effective. I think I was at the top of my game. Montana's defense was just really good. They did a real good job."

Which part made you laugh? That Eddie Lee Ivory was their star running back? Or that he was out? Although I suppose on that point he was right....Eddie Lee Ivory, being a fictitious person and all, did not play in that game.

[GrizinWashington]

I laughed at cc's "Eddie Lee Ivory" comment also, Tampa. But I've gotten used to him not having a clue.

Furman All-American running back Louis Ivory, who missed the last two games with a knee injury found little room to roam against UM's defense. Ivory carried the ball 12 times for just 33 yards, his lowest total in three years as a starter. His longest run was a 10-yarder. Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse.

"It's just that Montana's defense was really good," Ivory said. "If I wasn't 100 percent, I wouldn't put my team in that situation. I felt like I could be really effective. I think I was at the top of my game. Montana's defense was just really good. They did a real good job."

Which part made you laugh? That Eddie Lee Ivory was their star running back? Or that he was out? Although I suppose on that point he was right....Eddie Lee Ivory, being a fictitious person and all, did not play in that game.

Both. Although I think ELI is a real dude. I think he played for the Packers in the 80s. No doubt Furman could have used him in his prime, although I don't think it would have made any difference in the outcome.

[John K]

No, it was in a stadium. Marshall gift-wrapped it with 15 penalties and Furman's star RB (Eddie Lee Ivory) was out. But, I'm sure you knew that. A pair of tainted wins. "Gifts" as your really good coach calls them.

When Montana beat Marshall on the road in their home stadium they made them make a lot of mistakes. And when Montana beat Furman on the road Furman's star RB was not Eddie Lee Ivory. It was Louis Ivory and they shut him down pretty good. He said Montana's defense was just too good to overcome. Good teams do that in road victories.

I thought that GIW and I had established that the 2001 Furman win was not a "road victory"????

[tampa_griz]

No, it was in a stadium. Marshall gift-wrapped it with 15 penalties and Furman's star RB (Eddie Lee Ivory) was out. But, I'm sure you knew that. A pair of tainted wins. "Gifts" as your really good coach calls them.

When Montana beat Marshall on the road in their home stadium they made them make a lot of mistakes. And when Montana beat Furman on the road Furman's star RB was not Eddie Lee Ivory. It was Louis Ivory and they shut him down pretty good. He said Montana's defense was just too good to overcome. Good teams do that in road victories.

I thought that GIW and I had established that the 2001 Furman win was not a "road victory"????

I'd accept that. But Eddie Lee Ivory still wasn't Furman's star RB that year.

[John K]

No, it was in a stadium. Marshall gift-wrapped it with 15 penalties and Furman's star RB (Eddie Lee Ivory) was out. But, I'm sure you knew that. A pair of tainted wins. "Gifts" as your really good coach calls them.

When Montana beat Marshall on the road in their home stadium they made them make a lot of mistakes. And when Montana beat Furman on the road Furman's star RB was not Eddie Lee Ivory. It was Louis Ivory and they shut him down pretty good. He said Montana's defense was just too good to overcome. Good teams do that in road victories.

I thought that GIW and I had established that the 2001 Furman win was not a "road victory"????

I'd accept that. But Eddie Lee Ivory still wasn't Furman's star RB that year.

I also recognized the name Eddie Lee Ivory as a former NFL player, but thought that he had played for the Patriots....but maybe Packers also????

[crazycat]

I laughed at cc's "Eddie Lee Ivory" comment also, Tampa. But I've gotten used to him not having a clue.

Furman All-American running back Louis Ivory, who missed the last two games with a knee injury found little room to roam against UM's defense. Ivory carried the ball 12 times for just 33 yards, his lowest total in three years as a starter. His longest run was a 10-yarder. Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse.

"It's just that Montana's defense was really good," Ivory said. "If I wasn't 100 percent, I wouldn't put my team in that situation. I felt like I could be really effective. I think I was at the top of my game. Montana's defense was just really good. They did a real good job."

Louis/Eddie Lee whatever. Based on the link, it looks like you had to look it up just to prove me wrong, you didn't know off the top of your head. He may have played, but he had suffered a severe ankle sprain the previous week. That you don't know that shows your lake of Griz knowledge, that's unfortunate. Study.

[Grizlaw]

I laughed at cc's "Eddie Lee Ivory" comment also, Tampa. But I've gotten used to him not having a clue.

Furman All-American running back Louis Ivory, who missed the last two games with a knee injury found little room to roam against UM's defense. Ivory carried the ball 12 times for just 33 yards, his lowest total in three years as a starter. His longest run was a 10-yarder. Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse.

"It's just that Montana's defense was really good," Ivory said. "If I wasn't 100 percent, I wouldn't put my team in that situation. I felt like I could be really effective. I think I was at the top of my game. Montana's defense was just really good. They did a real good job."

Louis/Eddie Lee whatever. Based on the link, it looks like you had to look it up just to prove me wrong, you didn't know off the top of your head. He may have played, but he had suffered a severe ankle sprain the previous week. That you don't know that shows your lake of Griz knowledge, that's unfortunate. Study.

I have to admit, I sort of admire the way ol' crazycat always comes out with guns blazin', no matter what is going on in the thread. I mean -- here's a guy who has just been called out both for getting a guy's name wrong, and for having erroneously claimed that he didn't play against the Griz. Is he letting any of that put him on the defensive? Hell nah -- no matter how wrong he may have been, he can still see clear to criticize others for their "lake" of Griz knowledge.

[AlphaGriz1]

I will not waiver, I still don't want Bobbie hauck.

[crazycat]

I laughed at cc's "Eddie Lee Ivory" comment also, Tampa. But I've gotten used to him not having a clue.

Furman All-American running back Louis Ivory, who missed the last two games with a knee injury found little room to roam against UM's defense. Ivory carried the ball 12 times for just 33 yards, his lowest total in three years as a starter. His longest run was a 10-yarder. Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse.

"It's just that Montana's defense was really good," Ivory said. "If I wasn't 100 percent, I wouldn't put my team in that situation. I felt like I could be really effective. I think I was at the top of my game. Montana's defense was just really good. They did a real good job."

Louis/Eddie Lee whatever. Based on the link, it looks like you had to look it up just to prove me wrong, you didn't know off the top of your head. He may have played, but he had suffered a severe ankle sprain the previous week. That you don't know that shows your lake of Griz knowledge, that's unfortunate. Study.

I have to admit, I sort of admire the way ol' crazycat always comes out with guns blazin', no matter what is going on in the thread. I mean -- here's a guy who has just been called out both for getting a guy's name wrong, and for having erroneously claimed that he didn't play against the Griz. Is he letting any of that put him on the defensive? Hell nah -- no matter how wrong he may have been, he can still see clear to criticize others for their "lake" of Griz knowledge.

Haha, well I said the wrong first name. OK, I meant to say Louis Ivory, not Eddie Lee. I should've just went with last name instead of trying to be so specific. Oh well.

OK, Ivory wasn't out, but he was injured. He was riding a stationary bike all game and was limping around all over the place. They used a different guy at RB a lot, instead of their 100% Payton Award winner and only gave him 12 carries. Yeah, sure. It was big of him to say he was 100%, but he wasn't. As the Missoulian writer said, "Ivory didn't use the injury as an excuse." That was nice, too. But obviously the writer and everyone else knew he was hurting.

Senior halfback Louis Ivory, the 2000 Walter Payton Award winner, has missed the last two games with a knee injury, but leads in rushing with 1,662 yards and 19 TDs.

He had a sprained MCL in the first round game and was cleared to play against UM less than three weeks later. He was noticeably limping throughout the game. You can't honestly tell me you watched that game closely and thought he was 100%. He won the Payton Award in 2000, but had just 12 carries against UM. As a team Furman had 39 carries. They weren't so far behind that they had to abandon the run, but they did pretty much give up on running him due to the injured knee.

While the injury didn't keep him out, it played a big part in Furman's game plan and UM's win. Of course the injury wouldn't have mattered if Hauck had been UM's coach.