Ash missed Griz/cat game

[cats2506]

Wrong. You have Hauck confused with what happened to Mike Kramer at Idaho. Where's he coaching now anyway?

Since we are comparing character you obvously see that Hauck has none and cant compare to Ash, so you want to trot out the Kramer card.

I liked Kramer as a coach, but I will admit that after the number of off field problems that a change was necessary. Evidently you see the simularity with the problems you have bobby and the problems we had with Kramer.


NEXT ATTEMPT?

[tampa_griz]

Wrong. You have Hauck confused with what happened to Mike Kramer at Idaho. Where's he coaching now anyway?

Since we are comparing character you obvously see that Hauck has none and cant compare to Ash, so you want to trot out the Kramer card.

Yes, Hauck has way more character than does Ash. He's just a better all-around coach and it shows on the scoreboard, in the playoffs, Griz-Cat games, BSC COY awards, Eddie Robinson nominations, FCS coaching vacancy discussions, the list goes on and on.

[cats2506]

Wrong. You have Hauck confused with what happened to Mike Kramer at Idaho. Where's he coaching now anyway?

Since we are comparing character you obvously see that Hauck has none and cant compare to Ash, so you want to trot out the Kramer card.

Yes, Hauck has way more character than does Ash. He's just a better all-around coach and it shows on the scoreboard, in the playoffs, Griz-Cat games, BSC COY awards, Eddie Robinson nominations, FCS coaching vacancy discussions, the list goes on and on.

Huge joke and you know it, if there was any truth to it you wouldnt have needed to bring up Kramer.

and BTW Stanford passed on Hauck after the drug breakin/kidnapping fiasco

newweasel wouldnt even take him back now

[tampa_griz]

Huge joke and you know it, if there was any truth to it you wouldnt have needed to bring up Kramer.

and BTW Stanford passed on Hauck after the drug breakin/kidnapping fiasco

newweasel wouldnt even take him back now

You're dumb. Hauck interviewed with Stanford in December 2006. Coleman and crew got into trouble in November 2007. Do you know anything? Obviously Hauck has more character than does Ash. You're just too dumb to see it.

[Eastcoastgriz]

Ash on the other hand is well respected throughout the national coaching community.

msucks top two canidates walked away from the table and you had to settle for ash. Great get!!

[cats2506]

Ash on the other hand is well respected throughout the national coaching community.

msucks top two canidates walked away from the table and you had to settle for ash. Great get!!

While I respect MVD as a coach, I agree that he would not have been good for the program, MSU had needs in the program to better our APR and get solid recruiting practices in place, MVD would not have fit these requirements and I beleive he was told this and given the opertunity to withdraw his name.

The other coach you refer to (lennon I think) I am really not sure what happened and if he may have been a better choice or not, you dont know either (unless your name is Peter Fields) but I am sure you will speculate and make ****** up like you usually do.


Oh and I guess I must have mixed up the years of the breakin and the "phantom" coaching offers for bobby. It must really piss him off the Woulf is coaching the PAC 10 and he is still stuck in missoula

[tampa_griz]

Oh and I guess I must have mixed up the years of the breakin and the "phantom" coaching offers for bobby. It must really piss him off the Woulf is coaching the PAC 10 and he is still stuck in missoula

You're finger-quoting your own adjectives? That doesn't make any sense. Are you trying to point out that the use of the word phantom is stupid as it relates to Hauck's FBS coaching opportunities? Congratulations. You really are dumb. Do you know anything? Or do you just make sh*t up as you go along?

[cats2506]

Oh and I guess I must have mixed up the years of the breakin and the "phantom" coaching offers for bobby. It must really piss him off the Woulf is coaching the PAC 10 and he is still stuck in missoula

You're finger-quoting your own adjectives? That doesn't make any sense. Are you trying to point out that the use of the word phantom is stupid as it relates to Hauck's FBS coaching opportunities? Congratulations. You really are dumb. Do you know anything? Or do you just make sh*t up as you go along?

Why do you need to point to these "phantom" coaching possibilities to make bobby seem valuable to you. One would think that you could point to his success at um and say that is what brings him his value to the griz. But with your narcissistic personality you seem to need someone else to realize his value for your own self esteem.

strange yet sad.

[tampa_griz]

Why do you need to point to these "phantom" coaching possibilities to make bobby seem valuable to you. One would think that you could point to his success at um and say that is what brings him his value to the griz. But with your narcissistic personality you seem to need someone else to realize his value for your own self esteem.

strange yet sad.

I've listed many reasons as to why Hauck is a great coach of solid character. He's had a number of accolades from his peers to saying so. Possible FBS jobs were just one of them. You said that the only evidence to support such a possibility was on eGriz. You were wrong. Again. Because you don't know anything make sh*t up as you go along. It's just fun to point it out.

[Eastcoastgriz]

While I respect MVD as a coach, I agree that he would not have been good for the program, MSU had needs in the program to better our APR and get solid recruiting practices in place, MVD would not have fit these requirements and I beleive he was told this and given the opertunity to withdraw his name.

Why wouldn't MVD fit the requirements for msucks??

You believe MVD was given the opportunity to withdraw his name? Where does this little tid bit come from? You might want to go to the horses mouth on this one.

[Hawks86]

While I respect MVD as a coach, I agree that he would not have been good for the program, MSU had needs in the program to better our APR and get solid recruiting practices in place, MVD would not have fit these requirements and I beleive he was told this and given the opertunity to withdraw his name.

Why wouldn't MVD fit the requirements for msucks??

You believe MVD was given the opportunity to withdraw his name? Where does this little tid bit come from? You might want to go to the horses mouth on this one.

How about you prove that Lennon and MVD were the top two choices and then prove they "walked away"

[Eastcoastgriz]

While I respect MVD as a coach, I agree that he would not have been good for the program, MSU had needs in the program to better our APR and get solid recruiting practices in place, MVD would not have fit these requirements and I beleive he was told this and given the opertunity to withdraw his name.

Why wouldn't MVD fit the requirements for msucks??

You believe MVD was given the opportunity to withdraw his name? Where does this little tid bit come from? You might want to go to the horses mouth on this one.

How about you prove that Lennon and MVD were the top two choices and then prove they "walked away"

Don't know about Lennon, but MVD did walk away.

[Griznationalist]

It's true that the job was MVD's and he almost took it, until he met with that kooky "quarterback club" or whatever the name of the booster group in Bozeman is. Evidently it's a surreal group of people. MVD wanted no part of it and walked away. Check your sources. Take this one to the bank.

[tampa_griz]

Don't know about Lennon, but MVD did walk away.

Lennon used his MSU interview for leverage for a higher salary at UND.

[Griznationalist]

Don't know about Lennon, but MVD did walk away.

Lennon used his MSU interview for leverage for a higher salary at UND.

That's funny.

[tampa_griz]

Don't know about Lennon, but MVD did walk away.

Lennon used his MSU interview for leverage for a higher salary at UND.

That's funny.

The sad part is that I'm not making a joke. It worked. They paid him more and when a better opportunity came along (Southern Illinois) he took it.

[cats2506]

Don't know about Lennon, but MVD did walk away.

Lennon used his MSU interview for leverage for a higher salary at UND.

It aperars that he did exactly that, however I dont see anything to indicate that the job (MSU) was ever actually offered to him.



MVD was told that he wouldnt get the job, and that he could pull out to save face, MSU needed someone that undestood the NCAA APR situation, not someone that has experience in NAIA (read no athletic restrictions)

Of the three Ash was the best choice given MSU needs.

BTW I think that Lennon and MVD are both excellent coaches.

[catatonic1]

The saddest part of this whole argument is that Ash was hired after the top two dropped out! Secondly, Ash may be one of the top 25 in wins, but where does he stand on the list of losses. It's not that I don't think he's a good coach, because I do. I just wish he showed a little emotion or motivation on the sidelines.

[Cats Back]

I agree about Coach Ash's sideline appearance. Everytime the camera catches him he looks like a deer in the headlights of a 40,000 pound semi doing 80 mph. I do think he is what this program needed at the time with all the criminal issues such as drug dealing murder etc. Kramer left a total mess there.

[Cat in NC]

The saddest part of this whole argument is that Ash was hired after the top two dropped out! Secondly, Ash may be one of the top 25 in wins, but where does he stand on the list of losses. It's not that I don't think he's a good coach, because I do. I just wish he showed a little emotion or motivation on the sidelines.

I'm thinking he's not REAL high on the list of losses. I believe that his overall record now is 189-109-5.