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Re: OBAMA

Post by tampa_griz » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:02 pm

Griznationalist wrote:Can somebody explain to us a single crime that a single prisoner in Gitmo committed?
Seriously?



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Post by Griznationalist » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:25 pm

tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Can somebody explain to us a single crime that a single prisoner in Gitmo committed?
Seriously?

Yes, seriously. I'm just asking.



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Re: OBAMA

Post by tampa_griz » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:35 pm

Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Can somebody explain to us a single crime that a single prisoner in Gitmo committed?
Seriously?

Yes, seriously. I'm just asking.
Acts of terrorism, mass murder of civilians, among others.



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Re: OBAMA

Post by HassFan » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:43 pm

Thoughts???[/quote]
Well it seems that most are convinced he is Muslim... That is weird HAHA! Either there is a HUGE CONSPIRACY AND HE WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! or you morons are ignorant and should give the guy a break... I'm guessin alpha is stockin up on his guns and ammo cuz the termination 2nd amendment is on his agenda... am i right?:P[/quote]

I would love to see the speech Obama gave on the arab tv station earlier this week where he explained his "Muslim background".


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Re: OBAMA

Post by Griznationalist » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:51 pm

tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Can somebody explain to us a single crime that a single prisoner in Gitmo committed?
Seriously?

Yes, seriously. I'm just asking.
Acts of terrorism, mass murder of civilians, among others.
I'm serious, tampa_griz. Is anyone in Gitmo guilty of a crime? Who? What crime?



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Re: OBAMA

Post by tampa_griz » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:31 pm

Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Can somebody explain to us a single crime that a single prisoner in Gitmo committed?
Seriously?

Yes, seriously. I'm just asking.
Acts of terrorism, mass murder of civilians, among others.
I'm serious, tampa_griz. Is anyone in Gitmo guilty of a crime? Who? What crime?
Hit the link I posted earlier for an example. But I guess it depends on what a crime is.



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Re: OBAMA

Post by Griznationalist » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:43 pm

tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Can somebody explain to us a single crime that a single prisoner in Gitmo committed?
Seriously?

Yes, seriously. I'm just asking.
Acts of terrorism, mass murder of civilians, among others.
I'm serious, tampa_griz. Is anyone in Gitmo guilty of a crime? Who? What crime?
Hit the link I posted earlier for an example. But I guess it depends on what a crime is.
Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison



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Re: OBAMA

Post by tampa_griz » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:00 pm

Griznationalist wrote:Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison
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Re: OBAMA

Post by Griznationalist » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:04 pm

tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison
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Nope.



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Griznationalist wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:
Griznationalist wrote:Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison
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Post by futurebobcat » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:40 pm

HassFan wrote:
I would love to see the speech Obama gave on the arab tv station earlier this week where he explained his "Muslim background".
..well he touched the bible.. BLASPHEMY!!!! lol
check this out moron..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22767392/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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Post by futurebobcat » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:46 pm

Griznationalist wrote: Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison
...honestly.. you are on their side? they are guilty until proven innocent in my mind.. i believe obamas reason behind g-bay is strictly based on the corruption of our interrogation methods, and it also gives the place a very bad name... now dont jump to conclusions and think that all these 'good Samaritan's' will go free.. they will be rightfully tried in our supreme court system and convicted and put into one of the prisons in the US. so with that being said if someone is wrongfully convicted as you suggest, blame the supreme court judge and jury.. or if someone is wrongfully not convicted.. same thing..
i believe you already knew all this, but i thought i would break it down for ya..
keep it up buddy =D^


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Re: OBAMA

Post by Griznationalist » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:22 am

futurebobcat wrote:
Griznationalist wrote: Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison
...honestly.. you are on their side? they are guilty until proven innocent in my mind.. i believe obamas reason behind g-bay is strictly based on the corruption of our interrogation methods, and it also gives the place a very bad name... now dont jump to conclusions and think that all these 'good Samaritan's' will go free.. they will be rightfully tried in our supreme court system and convicted and put into one of the prisons in the US. so with that being said if someone is wrongfully convicted as you suggest, blame the supreme court judge and jury.. or if someone is wrongfully not convicted.. same thing..
i believe you already knew all this, but i thought i would break it down for ya..
keep it up buddy =D^
I don't know enough to be "on their side," so my answer is, no, I'm not on their side. I don't believe you or anyone else know enough to be "for them" or "against them," either (why else would the vast majority be sitting there without any charges brought against them and about ready to be freed?). I'm not fighting or arguing with you. I'm just asking, if they are "guilty" in your mind, can you provide us specific details as to the crimes that everyone there committed? Or, are you just trusting George Bush? I'm not slamming you if you're simply trusting Bush. I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from.



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Re: OBAMA

Post by futurebobcat » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:12 am

Griznationalist wrote:
futurebobcat wrote:
Griznationalist wrote: Using the same source (Wikipedia), I see that of the 775 prisoners, 3 have been convicted, most have no charges against them, and we intend to release most of them because in six years we haven't found evidence to even charge them with crimes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_prison
...honestly.. you are on their side? they are guilty until proven innocent in my mind.. i believe obamas reason behind g-bay is strictly based on the corruption of our interrogation methods, and it also gives the place a very bad name... now dont jump to conclusions and think that all these 'good Samaritan's' will go free.. they will be rightfully tried in our supreme court system and convicted and put into one of the prisons in the US. so with that being said if someone is wrongfully convicted as you suggest, blame the supreme court judge and jury.. or if someone is wrongfully not convicted.. same thing..
i believe you already knew all this, but i thought i would break it down for ya..
keep it up buddy =D^
I don't know enough to be "on their side," so my answer is, no, I'm not on their side. I don't believe you or anyone else know enough to be "for them" or "against them," either (why else would the vast majority be sitting there without any charges brought against them and about ready to be freed?). I'm not fighting or arguing with you. I'm just asking, if they are "guilty" in your mind, can you provide us specific details as to the crimes that everyone there committed? Or, are you just trusting George Bush? I'm not slamming you if you're simply trusting Bush. I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from.
good point.. well i trust him enough that these guys did something to deserve goin behind bars.. its not some dude flippin paddies at mcdonalds in Baghdad.. or im pretty convinced its not... bush is very stupid, but i dont think he is cruel... cheney on the other hand.. i dunno.


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Post by tampa_griz » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:51 am

Kind of a moot point anyway. Neither Bush nor Cheney apprehended anyone anywhere.



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Post by dcbeck » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:44 pm

It has also been in the news the past few weeks about some of the detainees getting released and now they are back in leading roles with these different terrorist groups, but don't worry they are good guys with a bad rap. :roll:



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Post by TIrwin24 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:19 pm

Actually, now I'm going back on my thought process and realizing that it would be a good idea to send these Gitmo prisoners to our prisons because as soon as they get there, the prison gangs are going to kill them anyways.


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Post by STREETCAT » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:56 pm

TIrwin24 wrote:Actually, now I'm going back on my thought process and realizing that it would be a good idea to send these Gitmo prisoners to our prisons because as soon as they get there, the prison gangs are going to kill them anyways.
I would rather Grizdelusionist adopt them all into his home. Since there all good guys right?


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Re: OBAMA

Post by Griznationalist » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:48 pm

STREETCAT wrote:
TIrwin24 wrote:Actually, now I'm going back on my thought process and realizing that it would be a good idea to send these Gitmo prisoners to our prisons because as soon as they get there, the prison gangs are going to kill them anyways.
I would rather Grizdelusionist adopt them all into his home. Since there all good guys right?
The reading comprehension quotient of some people here appears legally drunk. I never said "there (sic) all good guys." I asked if anyone can tell me a single crime that any of the detainees are guilty of committing. One guy responded with one example. I checked his source (Wiki), which said out of 775 detainees, 3 have been convicted of crimes, the vast majority were never charged with anything, and many have been released. TIrwin24 and STREETCAT must have some inside information that George Bush could never find in regard to evidence against these detainees.



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Post by cats2506 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:05 pm

Griznationalist wrote:
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TIrwin24 wrote:Actually, now I'm going back on my thought process and realizing that it would be a good idea to send these Gitmo prisoners to our prisons because as soon as they get there, the prison gangs are going to kill them anyways.
I would rather Grizdelusionist adopt them all into his home. Since there all good guys right?
The reading comprehension quotient of some people here appears legally drunk. I never said "there (sic) all good guys." I asked if anyone can tell me a single crime that any of the detainees are guilty of committing. One guy responded with one example. I checked his source (Wiki), which said out of 775 detainees, 3 have been convicted of crimes, the vast majority were never charged with anything, and many have been released. TIrwin24 and STREETCAT must have some inside information that George Bush could never find in regard to evidence against these detainees.
They are guilty of being enemy combatants on the field of battle in the global war on terrorism against the United States od America

I hope they rot in GITMO


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