Starters

newcat · Post by **newcat** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:04 am

I know camp does not start for a couple months and we still do not know about the improvements each players has made over the summer (including the new guys) and how the spring injuries will effect the team but i was just wondering who do you guys think the starters will be once they step into Stillwater?

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:17 am

OFFENSE

LT - Hirst
RT - Bolton
C - Birkeland
RG - Figs
RT - Jensen (DeCock)
TE - Barnhardt

QB - Houdini (Joe Montana)

RB - JD

WR - Greatwood
WR - Murray
WR - Brown (Guinn/Rundle)

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:20 am

DEFENSE

LE - Pappich
NG - Rogers (Sweet Lou)
RE - Kolone

OLB - Lowe
ILB - King (Mauria)
ILB - Mollohan
OLB - Marudus

SS - Force
FS - Fuller
CB - Davis
CB - Hunter (Smith)

KR/PR - Bass (Roosey)

canyoncat · Post by **canyoncat** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:20 am

Just a guess:
Offense
Tackes Jensen, Hirst
Guards Bolton, Figeroa
Center Birkeland
QB Who else?
TE Barnhart
RB Dominick
WR Gatewood, Guinn & Murray

Defense
NT Saucedo
DT Rogers, Kolone
OLB Lowe, King
ILB Mollohan, Marudas
CB Smith, Hunter
SS Force
FS Grenfell

Of course this depends on injuries and things I just don't know. Especially with the DL and DB's, but I think it is close.

GO CATS!!

newcat · Post by **newcat** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:55 am

Offense

Lt-Hirst
Rt-Bolton
C-Birkeland
Rg-Figs
Rg-Jensen
Te-Barnhardt
Qb-Lulay
Tb-Jd or Bass
Wr-Gatewood
Wr-Murray
Wr-Guinn

Defense

Le-Pappich
Ng-Rogers
Re-Kolone
Olb-Lowe
Ilb-King
Ilb-Mollohan
Olb-Marudus
Ss-Force
Fs-Fuller
Cb-Davis
Cb-Smith or Hunter

Pr-Davis
Kr-Bass and Roosevelt

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:38 am

LT - Jensen (started first 9 games there last year before breaking leg)
LG - Bolton (started first 2 years at RG, before playing RT last year)
C - Birkland ( started 10 games at LG, shifts to Center to cover for Wolf)
RG - Fig (started all games at RG last year) - All conference 1st team
RT - Hirst (has only played RT) All conference performer year before last
TE - Barnhart - only returning TE with game experience (out during spring) (might see 4 WR instead of TE at times)
Slot Reciever - Gatewood - All conference performer (sub by Roosevelt)
X Receiver - Roosevelt/Quinn (Share time)
Z Receiver - Murray
QB - Lulay - started 3 years
Running back - Domenick/Bass (share time 60/40)

Nose - Rogers/Santiago/Lou
DE - Papich - Might have competition from new arrivals
DE - Kolone (redshirt Freshman transfer that will be all-world stud)
ILB - Mollohan & King (fastest guy on the team!!)
OLB - Lowe (shifts to DE on 4-3 alignment) & Marudus
SS - Force (hopefully will not have to play CB this year)
FS - Fuller / Grenfell
Cb - Davis - Might have competition from New arrivals
Cb - Smith or Hunter (which ever is healthy and wants to play).

PR - Murray
KR - Murray & Bass

Punter - Lulay
Kicker - Wide open (coin toss)
Snapper - incoming freshman?

Biggests question marks? DL and CBs

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:32 pm

I didn't see any spring action by the team, but based on the comments here, everyone seemed fairly impressed with ALL our running backs (although Bass was not there).

Based on what you all have seen/heard, what do you feel are the chances that JD will be our starting TB by the time we hit conference games?

HelenaCat · Post by **HelenaCat** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:52 pm

I have not seen Bass yet, so he could be a wild card and change things. But based on last spring, JD will be our starter. He lost 10-15 pounds and looked much quicker. I also don't remember him fumbling any of the scrimmages I saw. The freshman Evan Groves should also see some action though, especially since JD does have an asthma or allergy situation. Groves looks like he could be the real deal and getting him some game experience should help.

Unless we have some injuries or he is moved to a fullback position, I don't expect to see Gathing a lot. Not to say that he is not good, but I was just a bit more impressed with JD and Groves. Gathing is a huge impact player on special teams though and would be a solid RB if needed.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:59 pm

HelenaCat wrote:I have not seen Bass yet, so he could be a wild card and change things. But based on last spring, JD will be our starter. He lost 10-15 pounds and looked much quicker. I also don't remember him fumbling any of the scrimmages I saw. The freshman Evan Groves should also see some action though, especially since JD does have an asthma or allergy situation. Groves looks like he could be the real deal and getting him some game experience should help.

Unless we have some injuries or he is moved to a fullback position, I don't expect to see Gathing a lot. Not to say that he is not good, but I was just a bit more impressed with JD and Groves. Gathing is a huge impact player on special teams though and would be a solid RB if needed.

I hope Kramer gives Groves a chance to show us what he's got. Why not spell JD for a couple 2-3 series in the 2nd Q or late 3rd? Getting that frosh meaningful gametime experience would go a long way.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:38 am

Cat Pride wrote:
I hope Kramer gives Groves a chance to show us what he's got. Why not spell JD for a couple 2-3 series in the 2nd Q or late 3rd? Getting that frosh meaningful gametime experience would go a long way.

Spelling might come in the form of B A S S.

Helcat72 · Post by **Helcat72** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:31 am

Is King really slated to play an inside position? He played the outside last year and is the fastest LB. I would think he would be on the outside and Marudas moved inside. Just a thought.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:54 am

newcat wrote:I know camp does not start for a couple months and we still do not know about the improvements each players has made over the summer (including the new guys) and how the spring injuries will effect the team but i was just wondering who do you guys think the starters will be once they step into Stillwater?

Point: Miller
guard/wing: Jefferson
Forwad/wing: Dissly
Power Forward: Moss
Center: Beye

Boy it is a lot easier to predict when you have all your starers back!!

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:10 am

Helcat72 wrote:Is King really slated to play an inside position? He played the outside last year and is the fastest LB. I would think he would be on the outside and Marudas moved inside. Just a thought.

he's FAST, but I think he's also become a monster in the weight room.
What's good is we will know if 89 days.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:23 pm

CatPride: The QB isn't Houdini (Joe Montana), it's Houdini (Brett Favre). Houdini (Joe Montana) plays for Carroll College.

2Cats · Post by **2Cats** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:25 pm

About Epi King...If you have LB's who can cover the flat already playing OLB, why not take your quickest kid, put him in the middle and let him cover the whole field. To go along with his speed, he has a well developed sense for the ball and can hit as hard or harder than anyone you can put up on this forum...past or present. His a little bit light at 205 but given his families stature and the summer weight program he'll get there.

Keep in mind that he'll be a redshirt sophomore and will make those young kid mistakes, but I guarantee that you will enjoy watching him over the next three years.

MTBuff · Post by **MTBuff** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:59 pm

I know the kicker and punter position are one of the least popular, but are one of the most important, and games are often won or lost by either the kicker and/or the punter... with that being said, any idea on if the kicking duties will be Tyler Bolton's or if the freshman Fisher from Billings will have a chance??

I'm sure Kramer is reluctant to have a freshman kicker, but UM did it with some success with Carpenter.

Helcat72 · Post by **Helcat72** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:59 am

2Cats wrote:About Epi King...If you have LB's who can cover the flat already playing OLB, why not take your quickest kid, put him in the middle and let him cover the whole field. To go along with his speed, he has a well developed sense for the ball and can hit as hard or harder than anyone you can put up on this forum...past or present. His a little bit light at 205 but given his families stature and the summer weight program he'll get there.

Keep in mind that he'll be a redshirt sophomore and will make those young kid mistakes, but I guarantee that you will enjoy watching him over the next three years.

If he is really physical, the speed will be a plus, however I would like to see two physical middle backers to stuff the run on the goal line. It appeared to me that we were less physical than most on goalline situations last year. Maybe the bigger linemen will help and maybe they go to four down linemen on goal line, but we have had some big physical middle backers at MSU that could really make that last two yards difficult. I would like to see it again. Mollohan is physical if not big....I'm not sure who is more physical Marudas or King, but I believe speed on the outside is put to better use.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:39 pm

Helcat72 wrote: we have had some big physical middle backers at MSU that could really make that last two yards difficult. I would like to see it again. Mollohan is physical if not big....I'm not sure who is more physical Marudas or King, but I believe speed on the outside is put to better use.

Three of the four projected LBs are 210 to 220. Only Lowe is 240 and he is projected as outside I believe because of coming from DE. The problem brought up several months ago is we have lighter LBs, thus unless the DL plays physical and keeps the OL off our LBs, they will wear down because they are not big guys. The 3-4 will be keyed by the DL play, which we'll have to see. The speed in the middle will actually not be wasted, if the LBs are kept clean, a fast guy in the middle can cover a lot of the field chasing down plays both ways.

I would guess the plan is to play the best players (as it was with the OL last year and why Bolton was shifted from RG to RT and have the best 5 OL on the field). I think that is what will happen here, Molohan, Marudas, King, and Lowe are the best four by a good margin. Doesn't matter if there is a heavier player available for the middle. On the goal line, they can always go 4-4-3 and drop a safety if need be. or even 5-2-4, moving the two outside linebackers up on the line and using the Safeties as LBs.

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:35 am

What is the lowest total number of points given up during a season of league play in the Big Sky??

What is the highest output of points during a season of league play in the Big Sky??

Can this years team eclipse both of those marks this season?

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