See Ya in Bozeman!!

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:05 am

SEE YA IN BOZEMAN!!!

That is what a friend of mine has taught his 4 year old Daughter to yell as she flushes the Toliet- Seems Prophetic!!!!

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:33 am

great parenting! now we can see where the classy fans on both sides come from. "but my kid didn't do anything wrong, it's the teachers fault, he doesn't like my kid"

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:14 am

hokeyfine wrote:great parenting! now we can see where the classy fans on both sides come from. "but my kid didn't do anything wrong, it's the teachers fault, he doesn't like my kid"

FLUSH

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:16 am

This is exhibit a on how to turn your kid into an obnoxious fan

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:33 am

This is an example of how to make your child a productive member of society…

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:42 am

mquast53000 wrote:This is an example of how to make your child a productive member of society…

yeah....how sad

quaist i bet ya that comes from the same person that will complain how they are getting mistreated at bobcat stadium although they had somehow managed to sit between the all the frats.....

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:51 pm

Got something against fraternities?

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:02 pm

CelticCat wrote:Got something against fraternities?

no just using the frats as an example...nothing against the frats

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:09 pm

CelticCat wrote:Got something against fraternities?

I have nothing against fraternities, just the people in them.

I am kidding! Or am I?

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:32 pm

it's a fraternity, not a frat. you don't call your country a c_nt do you?

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:41 pm

Ever since I got that phone call from my Dad (living in L.A.) Mom (living in Missoula) and Aunt (living in North Carolina) with in a 2 hour period, and having to explain about what a Frat was doing with a Cat frozen in a chunch ice floating in, a punch bowl, I have had a soar spot for the college frat life. I had to swear on a stack of bibles that I had nothing to do with that little incident.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:23 pm

I'll never understand peoples reasoning for that kind of thing. Frats on a whole (at least the ones I'm familiar with here in Bozeman) don't do anything worse than what hapens outside Greek life at college, we are just held more accountable for it. I guess it's just easier to blame the entire system rather than just a few individuals. Frats are looked down upon, where the worst things I have seen in my collegiate days have been outside the Greek system. Girl gets alcohol poisining in Langford, it's her own fault. Girl gets alcohol poisining in a Frat, she was drugged, forced to, it's all the frats fault, shut the house down, do away with the Greek system, etc. We probably raped her while we were at it, right? Then went off and spanked each other in the ass. Sure there are plenty of bad apples in frats, but there are plenty of them elsewhere too. Sorry if I sound a bit bitter, but a vast majority of people here absolutely hate frats, and most of them have no good reason to other than the stereotypes they've created in their minds, or they lump the few bad things they've heard about a few individuals into the whole Greek life.

Then again I've never been one to stereotype.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:34 pm

CelticCat wrote:I'll never understand peoples reasoning for that kind of thing. Frats on a whole (at least the ones I'm familiar with here in Bozeman) don't do anything worse than what hapens outside Greek life at college, we are just held more accountable for it. I guess it's just easier to blame the entire system rather than just a few individuals. Frats are looked down upon, where the worst things I have seen in my collegiate days have been outside the Greek system. Girl gets alcohol poisining in Langford, it's her own fault. Girl gets alcohol poisining in a Frat, she was drugged, forced to, it's all the frats fault, shut the house down, do away with the Greek system, etc. We probably raped her while we were at it, right? Then went off and spanked each other in the ass. Sure there are plenty of bad apples in frats, but there are plenty of them elsewhere too. Sorry if I sound a bit bitter, but a vast majority of people here absolutely hate frats, and most of them have no good reason to other than the stereotypes they've created in their minds, or they lump the few bad things they've heard about a few individuals into the whole Greek life.

Then again I've never been one to stereotype.

If you really want to get peeved, I learned in a workplace tolerance video (a bogus HR thing from my days at VeriSign) that there are lots and lots of situations where you are in trouble for labeling someone (sex, race, class, socioeconomic status, sexual preference, rank, age, etc., etc.), but they had one example that was thrown in as a trick question. Mixed in with the numerous scenes that asked "Is this appropriate behavior?" and proceeded to answer the question after the scene with a stern "NO," they showed this scene:

A group of loud obnoxious women (they happened to be black, and I have no idea why, other than perhaps the video producers were trying to be ironic or make some bizarre point) are sitting together at one table, and they are making fun of a young white guy in a suit and tie at the next table who looks really sad (because he's getting picked on). They call him "frat boy" primarily, along with making fun of him for eating with "all of his friends," etc. Well, when we find out whether or not that was appropriate behavior, we were told that this example was actually okay, although not nice. Virtually any other segment of the population, when labeled, is a legally protected class, but calling someone out as a frat boy is seemingly encouraged by the makers of the video.

I know that fraternity membership isn't a legally protected employment classification, and it obviously shouldn't be, but I just found it strange how the filmmakers almost used it as a way of saying that mocking someone using the term "frat boy" in a derogatory manner was quite alright. Many of the people I watched it with were fraternity members, and we all got a pretty good laugh out of it ... and proceeded to call everyone (including women) "stupid frat boys" for a few days afterwards. You had to be there, but it was kind of funny in the right context.

Robcat · Post by **Robcat** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:55 am

Greek life could be its own thread. But if you have not experienced the fraternal life you do not know what you have missed. They are not like the movie Animal House.

Fraternal life extends beyond the college experience. For me it has opened many doors in my adult life. I am very proud to be a part of the greek system. My son, my brother and myself are all Sigma Chi's. Unfortunately my Brother is a UM Sig.

We have discussed the "game day experience" on this forum and I am not sure other posters realize how much the Greeks add to the cheering, and the game day experience. Also the Greek alums that tailgate just to see other Brothers. Homecoming would be half of what it is today without the Greeks.

I have a Grandson that I hope will attend MSU and I also hope he be a part of the Greek system. A Sigma Chi of course.

I allmost am afraid to see what the non Greeks will post in order to try to diminish or pooh pooh the Greek way of life at MSU.

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:01 am

Robcat practice passive agresive behavior much? You don't want a non greek to do to you what you just did to them by explaining how empty life is if your not a greek. People have had a good college experiance either be it with a frat or with out a frat.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:35 am

Did anyone else read Robcat's post that way? I don't see it -- just a guy explaining how the Greek system was a positive in his life and what it adds to the campus. Did he say something negative about GDIs that I overlooked?

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:58 am

Bay Area Cat wrote:Did anyone else read Robcat's post that way? I don't see it -- just a guy explaining how the Greek system was a positive in his life and what it adds to the campus. Did he say something negative about GDIs that I overlooked?

Actually I did BAC. I don't think he meant it that way at all but if one chose not to be part of the Greek system in college, you could easily have read it to mean that you really missed out on something and I don't that is the case at all.

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:02 am

One thing that I have noticed different in Montana versus other states is how the Greek system is viewed. The Greek system is not as popular in Montana then it is in many other states. My wife said that everyone in Nebraska is in a Frat or Sorority and my buddies that went to the University of Minnesota said the same thing. The Greek system is just different in Montana. I don’t know that the Greek system will ever get big in Montana, it just doesn’t seem to thrive in our campus environments. Heck, I would have to say that the football team is a lot like a frat. There are a number of similarities between the two.

BTW, how did Scats lame joke become a conversation about the Greek system?

Post by **SonomaCat** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:19 am

WYCAT wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:Did anyone else read Robcat's post that way? I don't see it -- just a guy explaining how the Greek system was a positive in his life and what it adds to the campus. Did he say something negative about GDIs that I overlooked?
Actually I did BAC. I don't think he meant it that way at all but if one chose not to be part of the Greek system in college, you could easily have read it to mean that you really missed out on something and I don't that is the case at all.

Okay, I guess I see how that could be construed. I just read it as part of a very true statement -- [generic] "you" don't know what you have missed. In a conversation about people putting down the Greek system, this makes sense. For better or for worse, people who didn't participate did miss out on it, yet they still opine negatively on it.

I was far from a super brother or anything, but I was involved enough to know exactly what these guys are talking about. It did get frustrating when I was in school to hear people take shots at the Greek system using tired stereotypes that were nothing like the reality of Greek life (unfortunately -- I would have preferred the Animal House lifestyle most days). It was good in a lot of ways, but it definitely had some aspects that I didn't care for. I'd have to say the biggest thing was that it taught me tolerance of people I didn't necessarily like all that much. When you are living in that close of quarters with that many people, you have to learn how get along with people or life is just miserable. That's not a bad life lesson to learn, if nothing else.

Robcat · Post by **Robcat** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:29 am

It was not my intention to belittle the non greek students or Alums from MSU. It is just my opinion that if you did not or are not part of the greek system at MSU, then you missed something as part of your campus life.

The Greek rewards to me and my family and have been above any expectations I may have had in 1966 when I became a Sigma Chi Pledge. I encourage every student that I know that is heading to MSU to at least check out the Greek system.

The students that have heeded my limited words of wisdom have thanked me over the years. We all want to be a part of an identity. Thats why I have a family, support MSU, enjoy my circle of friends, am self employed, have a love of God and Country etc. Plus its great to be a Sigma Chi.