lost liberty hotel

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:17 pm

http://www.freestarmedia.com/hotellostliberty2.html

BobcatBlood · Post by **BobcatBlood** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:20 pm

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:25 pm

This is an interesting way of protesting a SCOTUS opinion -- a pretty good way, actually. There's nothing like taking something from purely theoretical to very tangible to show the unintended consequences of a government body's decisions.

If people did this sort of thing to Congress and the President, we'd have a lot less bad laws being passed each year.

Cat-theotherwhitemeat · Post by **Cat-theotherwhitemeat** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:21 pm

I'm wondering if a new mall would go well at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:26 pm

I hope that Hotel goes through. That judgement scares the HE!! out of me.

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:30 pm

When I read this in the paper this morning, it reminded me of another story that I read in the New York Post a couple months ago, following a speech that Justice Scalia gave at NYU Law School.

Just a warning: the story will be offensive to some viewers. A lot of people would probably consider this an inappropriate question to ask a Supreme Court Justice; I might agree to an extent, but it was an excellent way to make the point this kid was trying to make, and in any event, I have to respect him for having some cajones.

April 14, 2005 -- WHEN U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (above) spoke Tuesday night at NYU's Vanderbilt Hall, "The room was packed with some 300 students and there were many protesters outside because of Scalia's vitriolic dissent last year in the case that overturned the Texas law against gay sex," our source reports. "One gay student asked whether government had any business enacting and enforcing laws against consensual sodomy. Following Scalia's answer, the student asked a follow-up: 'Do you sodomize your wife?' The audience was shocked, especially since Mrs. Scalia [Maureen] was in attendance. The justice replied that the question was unworthy of an answer."

--GL (P.S. Just for the record -- my "from the grapevine" understanding is that the questioner was a first year law student at the time.)

Post by **SonomaCat** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:16 pm

Grizlaw wrote:When I read this in the paper this morning, it reminded me of another story that I read in the New York Post a couple months ago, following a speech that Justice Scalia gave at NYU Law School.

Just a warning: the story will be offensive to some viewers. A lot of people would probably consider this an inappropriate question to ask a Supreme Court Justice; I might agree to an extent, but it was an excellent way to make the point this kid was trying to make, and in any event, I have to respect him for having some cajones.

April 14, 2005 -- WHEN U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (above) spoke Tuesday night at NYU's Vanderbilt Hall, "The room was packed with some 300 students and there were many protesters outside because of Scalia's vitriolic dissent last year in the case that overturned the Texas law against gay sex," our source reports. "One gay student asked whether government had any business enacting and enforcing laws against consensual sodomy. Following Scalia's answer, the student asked a follow-up: 'Do you sodomize your wife?' The audience was shocked, especially since Mrs. Scalia [Maureen] was in attendance. The justice replied that the question was unworthy of an answer."

--GL (P.S. Just for the record -- my "from the grapevine" understanding is that the questioner was a first year law student at the time.)

That was the perfect question to be asked of anybody who opposed the change to that Texas law. I think a lot of people don't even understand what sodomy is and assume that it just relates to gay sex. With full knowledge, I have a hard time imagining many people who would be against it. And those that would ... that's so sad.

Just had a funny thought -- that room needed to have an 80s Judd Nelson type to pipe up and repeat in a pointed tone, "Answer the question, Tony [Claire]!"

Sorry for that Breakfast Club flashback.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:45 pm

Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:I'm wondering if a new mall would go well at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

What's wrong with the old Mall?

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:42 am

Bay Area Cat wrote:That was the perfect question to be asked of anybody who opposed the change to that Texas law. I think a lot of people don't even understand what sodomy is and assume that it just relates to gay sex. With full knowledge, I have a hard time imagining many people who would be against it. And those that would ... that's so sad.

My one disappointment with that whole exchange was Scalia's response. I have a lot of respect for Justice Scalia; in terms of pure intelligence, he's probably the brightest justice currently on the bench, and even when I disagree with him, I always respect the analysis in his opinions. I also have friends who are former Supreme Court clerks and have had the pleasure of having discussions with him, and they confirm that he is in fact generally pretty quick-witted. I think he was too stunned by the question to respond, which is why he dismissed it, but I would have liked to have heard him attempt a response (or at a minimum, acknowledge that the question raised a legitimate point) instead of simply dismissing it as "unworthy of an answer."

And you should never apologize for a Breakfast Club reference.