The deal we made with Huse

[wbtfg]

mslacat;
Dream on! The results, or lack of, in this program rest with Brad. He has not done a quality job of recruiting athletes (players) that can compete and win on a consistent basis at this level. And it doesn't appear to look any different in the near future. If you're happy with 50% + or - a game or so that's your choice. Most people are not, and there has not been signs of improvement to date. Yes, he has 2 more years on his contract. But, that does mean things will get better.
And, the same is true for WBB and FB. Fields should have been gone long ago.
If you happen to know any of the QB Club members talk to them about the letter and meeting held with the new Presaident and 2 of the big hitters in that QB organization. It may enlighten you to the real issues in the MSU Athletic Department..

I think mslacat’s comment said it best…

I am not against criticism of a coach by any means if it is constructive and not simply mean spirited drivel.

I’d actually like to see your well thought out points, but your posts are coming across as caustic and mean spirited. I’d be interested to see your point by point response to mslacat’s initial post.

Also just for clarification. Are you calling for the jobs of Huse, Ash, Binford, and Fields? Because that’s how it came across.

Additionally, what's the point of the cryptic QBC secret letter? Why not just post what the letter stated?

[wbtfg]

BTW Mr. bobcats35, I just took a quick glance at your 19 posts and they all seem pretty angry and negative. Why nothing positive to say?

Here is a synopsis of your posts:

-Lasky sucks
-Fire Fields
-Women's bball team sucks
-Athletic Dept Sucks
-Fire Huse
-Big Sky Conference Officials Suck
-Support M Club
-Fire Fields
-Binford needs to recruit dumber girls
-Fire Huse

[SonomaCat]

If you happen to know any of the QB Club members talk to them about the letter and meeting held with the new Presaident and 2 of the big hitters in that QB organization. It may enlighten you to the real issues in the MSU Athletic Department..

If anyone in the QBC is having meetings as representatives of the QBC and making any complaints about anything, let me know exactly who is doing that and what they are saying ... because that's not what the QBC is for and it would be completely inappropriate for them to speak on behalf of the QBC. They can only speak on behalf of themselves as individuals.

If people are trying to use the resources of the QBC to advance their own political agendas (again), it would be a sign for a lot of people to stop donating to the QBC.

I am in the QBC and I know nothing of any letter or any meeting ... and if a letter exists that was written on behalf of the QBC, that's completely inappropriate.

So that said ... fill us in on what you are talking about.

[LTown Cat]

I always hate it when someone claims to have inside info. and doesn't enlighten the rest of us with the facts.

Couldn't agree more--either spill the info or keep quiet!

[TrueCat]

[quote="bobcats35"]mslacat;
Dream on! The results, or lack of, in this program rest with Brad. He has not done a quality job of recruiting athletes (players) that can compete and win on a consistent basis at this level. And it doesn't appear to look any different in the near future. If you're happy with 50% + or - a game or so that's your choice. Most people are not, and there has not been signs of improvement to date. Yes, he has 2 more years on his contract. But, that does mean things will get better.
And, the same is true for WBB and FB. Fields should have been gone long ago.
If you happen to know any of the QB Club members talk to them about the letter and meeting held with the new Presaident and 2 of the big hitters in that QB organization. It may enlighten you to the real issues in the MSU Athletic Department..[/quote]

LOL! Yea, I heard about this "letter"...I heard that it was written by a very small group and that most of the members of the QBC were so embarassed by it that it did not pass and was never sent out. Better luck next time bobcats35.

[SonomaCat]

LOL! Yea, I heard about this "letter"...I heard that it was written by a very small group and that most of the members of the QBC were so embarassed by it that it did not pass and was never sent out. Better luck next time bobcats35.

Good to hear. The moment the QBC starts trying to throw its weight around is the moment I will stop contributing. As long as it remains nothing more than a conduit for people to donate to the football program, all is well. But I will never donate cash so that others can use it to grind their own axes. I suspect most others feel the same way.

[BelgradeBobcat]

I was one of those guys who expressed my disatisfaction on this board after the Northern's road trip, and especially after the second loss to EWU. At that time I couldn't comprehend a win at Missoula-let alone a top 3 regular season finish. I, like many on here, had serious questions about our recruiting. However-I did not call for Huse's head. I believed then and continue to believe that Huse is the right guy for the program.

Mslacat's post makes a lot of sense and puts some pieces together for me. Huse and his staff aren't bad recruiters. They have had one hand tied behind their back (maybe Ash and Binford too).

A long time before Mslacat''s post I noticed what looked like a paradigm shift in MSU recruiting. The three sports I follow most closely (football and men's and women's basketball) were signing few to no junior college players. It got me wondering if this was some sort of edict coming from the AD and if committments were made to the coaches to tolerate potentially fewer wins in exchange for better grades, fewer diciplinary issues, and higher graduation rates.

And truthfully-what's the risk? We weren't exactly taxing the structural integrity of the Fieldhouse roof with new championship banners in the prior years-and the University suffered immense harm in reputation. I am certainly excited about the good reports about rising graduation rates and higher team GPA's.

But I'm a fan-so I want to have my cake and eat it too. If we struggled with mediocrity when the coaches weren't as restricted in who they recruited-how long will it take for us to be scraping the league cellar with these current restrictions? I guess we'll find out in the next seasons. To me the football program looks solid-but maybe not championship quality yet, and the women's basketball program is definitely on the rise-but they had to come from a long ways down. However, the men's basketball team is facing a rebuild and we're going to have to rely on some true freshmen in big roles next season. I am about as loyal a Bobcat fan as I know-but I don't want to sit through a bunch of losing seasons-knowing there's no hope to get better. Attendance will start slipping significantly and that's would be huge problem for the AD's bottom line.

Maybe there's a silver lining? If the AD gives the coaches the confidence and time to endure some tougher seasons, the coaches will nurture their programs instead of selling out for a quick fix. Is that what we're starting to see? Could we eventually end up with more success on the court and field as a result of these measures?

The AD and BIG boosters appear to be patient enough...I need to be too I guess.

Anyway-thanks Mslacat for your post. It's something I needed to read.

[Helcat72]

I too have not heard of any letter originated by the QBC...I am a member too. It sounds like a bunch of malcontent BS to me! I think Huse, Ash and binford are the best coaches we've had for all thr4ee sports in quite a while. They have made us respectable both on the field AND in the classroom. I think we can wait for the success on the field because I believe it's coming!

I am in Spokane and went to the Women's game against Sac St....talk about an A$$ kicking! The cats looked like the Harlwem globtrotters today! Outrebounded sac by about 13, and outshot them 50% to 29%. sac pressed the whole game and didn't take the ball away once! What a show! EWu better look out tomorrow if we ploay that way! I must say however Sac play right into our hands...we like the up temp game....EWU will slow it down and grind...we have to be ready for it and play physical!

[TrueCat]

Well said Helcat! The letter was a HUGE JOKE written by a small few who thought their opinions mattered and were trying to take advantage of being in the QBC,

Great win Lady Cats!

[bobcats35]

You people that are members of QBC need to get up to date. 2 of your heavy hitters delivered the letter to the Ptesident outlining their (QBC) feelings about the current situation with Mr. Fields. The QBC has given 1.3 million dollars to the football program since Fields arrived. Winning percentage has gone from 49% to 51%. If you are satisfied with that fine. Most are not. Fields also now wants to be the one who decides where the QBC money will be spent. Get in the loop members.

[whitetrashgriz]

You people that are members of QBC need to get up to date. 2 of your heavy hitters delivered the letter to the Ptesident outlining their (QBC) feelings about the current situation with Mr. Fields. The QBC has given 1.3 million dollars to the football program since Fields arrived. Winning percentage has gone from 49% to 51%. If you are satisfied with that fine. Most are not. Fields also now wants to be the one who decides where the QBC money will be spent. Get in the loop members.

ooohhhh........this is about to get good.

[SonomaCat]

You people that are members of QBC need to get up to date. 2 of your heavy hitters delivered the letter to the Ptesident outlining their (QBC) feelings about the current situation with Mr. Fields. The QBC has given 1.3 million dollars to the football program since Fields arrived. Winning percentage has gone from 49% to 51%. If you are satisfied with that fine. Most are not. Fields also now wants to be the one who decides where the QBC money will be spent. Get in the loop members.

I will ask our QBC contact about this, and if it's true, I will no longer be in the QBC ... and I'm sure a lot of others will be leaving as well (we can donate that same amount of money directly to the Bobcat Club instead).

Please post your real name and the names of the people who sent the letter so we can treat this issue with the seriousness it deserves.

Two people are NOT the QBC ... they don't have the authority to speak on our behalf.

If this is NOT true, I want you to post an apology to the QBC under your real name. Sound fair?

As an aside ... it's kind of strange that you are talking about the QBC (a football-only group) on a thread about Huse.

[whitetrashgriz]

You people that are members of QBC need to get up to date. 2 of your heavy hitters delivered the letter to the Ptesident outlining their (QBC) feelings about the current situation with Mr. Fields. The QBC has given 1.3 million dollars to the football program since Fields arrived. Winning percentage has gone from 49% to 51%. If you are satisfied with that fine. Most are not. Fields also now wants to be the one who decides where the QBC money will be spent. Get in the loop members.

I will ask our QBC contact about this, and if it's true, I will no longer be in the QBC ... and I'm sure a lot of others will be leaving as well.

i can assure you, you won't be alone. this guy, who i'm sure is going to remain nameless, may have bitten off more than he can chew here. i have a funny feeling he's going to wish this wasn't a discussion he started.

[catamaran]

You people that are members of QBC need to get up to date. 2 of your heavy hitters delivered the letter to the Ptesident outlining their (QBC) feelings about the current situation with Mr. Fields. The QBC has given 1.3 million dollars to the football program since Fields arrived. Winning percentage has gone from 49% to 51%. If you are satisfied with that fine. Most are not. Fields also now wants to be the one who decides where the QBC money will be spent. Get in the loop members.

I will ask our QBC contact about this, and if it's true, I will no longer be in the QBC ... and I'm sure a lot of others will be leaving as well.

i can assure you, you won't be alone. this guy, who i'm sure is going to remain nameless, may have bitten off more than he can chew here. i have a funny feeling he's going to wish this wasn't a discussion he started.

been a long time since we've had a good ol' fashioned sheeite storm on the board

[SonomaCat]

Just got the inside scoop (and it reinforces that TrueCat lives up to his name yet again) ...

First off, the anonymous poster owes the QBC an apology (preferably under his real name). The Board of the QBC REJECTED this letter that was pulled together by a handful of individuals. The Board is also very embarassed by the whole thing.

Fields is also NOT trying to dictate where the money is spent. Instead, MSU merely wants the money held in the foundation accounts (which is how every single other organization that fundraises using the MSU trademarks operates). The QBC still has complete control over how the money is allocated, and nobody is trying to change that.

One QBC individual (acting on his own behalf and not as a representative of the QBC as a whole) was granted a meeting with the President ... and she told him that she had full faith and confidence in both Ash and Fields, and that she wasn't going to act on his request that they be fired.

People SHOULD continue to give to the QBC because the organization is sticking to its function, which is the raise money to help the football program. Of course, people should also give what they can to the Bobcat Club, which goes to fund the scholarships for the student-athletes.

There are a handful of people in the QBC who seem to think that they should try to use the QBC to promote their own agenda and want to pretend that the hundreds of thousands of dollars that the REST OF US donate to the QBC for MSU are THEIR funds. Obviously, they are not. They can speak only on their own behalf -- they are not allowed to speak on behalf of the rest of us in the QBC.

The moment the QBC starts becoming an organization that tries to influence MSU policy and personnel decisions, the QBC will implode (as most of us will quit donating). But right now, that's NOT the case, as these individuals' efforts were REJECTED by the QBC.

So all is well. And somebody owes the QBC an apology.

[TrueCat]

Well done BAC!

[John K]

I always hate it when someone claims to have inside info. and doesn't enlighten the rest of us with the facts.

Good point. The question that comes to my mind, is have we possibly overreacted a bit, and implemented too many restrictions? If what mslacat is saying is really accurate, it would seem that we have virtually no chance to ever become a program that is consistently among the top 2 or 3 in the BSC. It would also seem that we are hamstringing our coaches so much, that even some very good students are not allowed to be recruited by MSU. Are we elimating 10 great student-athletes from consideration, on the slimmest of chances that 1 of those 10 might not make the grade academically? If that is indeed true, then I would say that we have in fact overreacted to some degree.

[wbtfg]

Just got the inside scoop (and it reinforces that TrueCat lives up to his name yet again) ...

First off, the anonymous poster owes the QBC an apology (preferably under his real name). The Board of the QBC REJECTED this letter that was pulled together by a handful of individuals. The Board is also very embarassed by the whole thing.

Fields is also NOT trying to dictate where the money is spent. Instead, MSU merely wants the money held in the foundation accounts (which is how every single other organization that fundraises using the MSU trademarks operates). The QBC still has complete control over how the money is allocated, and nobody is trying to change that.

One QBC individual (acting on his own behalf and not as a representative of the QBC as a whole) was granted a meeting with the President ... and she told him that she had full faith and confidence in both Ash and Fields, and that she wasn't going to act on his request that they be fired.

People SHOULD continue to give to the QBC because the organization is sticking to its function, which is the raise money to help the football program. Of course, people should also give what they can to the Bobcat Club, which goes to fund the scholarships for the student-athletes.

There are a handful of people in the QBC who seem to think that they should try to use the QBC to promote their own agenda and want to pretend that the hundreds of thousands of dollars that the REST OF US donate to the QBC for MSU are THEIR funds. Obviously, they are not. They can speak only on their own behalf -- they are not allowed to speak on behalf of the rest of us in the QBC.

The moment the QBC starts becoming an organization that tries to influence MSU policy and personnel decisions, the QBC will implode (as most of us will quit donating). But right now, that's NOT the case, as these individuals' efforts were REJECTED by the QBC.

So all is well. And somebody owes the QBC an apology.

So let me get this straight…some guy rallies a couple of his buddies to write a letter to the new MSU President on behalf of the QBC. The QBC board shoots them down and tells them this is a bad idea. The guy doesn’t take the hint from the QBC board members and schedules a private meeting with the MSU President to request the firing of Peter Fields and Rob Ash?

Wow...If nothing else, this dude definitely has a set of brass ones, unfortunately not a lot of common sense or tact.

BTW: I like Coach Huse

[SonomaCat]

That about sums it up, as far as I can tell.

[GrizinWashington]

this dude definitely has a set of brass ones, unfortunately not a lot of common sense or tact.

While udoubtedly true, I am also guessing that this person writes some rather large checks. Any idividual can get on the President's calendar, but it ain't always easy unless the path is well greased.