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Post by coachouert » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:10 pm

I'd want first-hand documentation about the "State" comment and the use of "Montana" comment (whatever those were). Coach Hauck has been here only 2 years, so direct evidence (not "rumors", not "stories", not stuff CelticCat heard from "many people") should be available if there is anything out there. Even if there was substantive evidence of both, and if that is all that could be proven about Hauck, then it would certainly be oversensitivity on the part of the 'Cat fans.
Head over to the College Sports World Thread. There is some quotes there from your beloved Bobby. Don't worry I put the newspaper articles along with them for reference checks. Wow, Bobby sure does ooze class in his postgame comments....

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Post by SausageCrotch » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:53 pm

I suspect all this hatred has to do more with what Hauck hasn't done than what he has. Admittedly, he probably should have given the Cats a little credit for their win a couple years ago. But, considering this was a first-year coach who has grown up with this rivalry and has a true appreciation for it (unlike Glenn), his actions are understandable. He felt like the rest of us Griz fans did that day, like we played the better game and had the better team, but gave the game away on a silver platter. I sure as hell wasn't about to give the Cats credit that day for something I felt we pissed away ourselves. Sure, the coach should be held to a higher standard, but it doesn't make him the Anti-Christ for letting his emotions get the better of him. He will become a better PR person in time, and has already shown improvements in his second year. The point is, he's young and he's going to make stupid mistakes, but that certainly doesn't warrent the incredible hatred that some of you Cat fans are showing for him. I have never seen such distain for an opposing team's coach as long as I can remember. If Hauck gets a win in Bozo this year some of you will need to be put on suicide watch.



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Post by wbtfg » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:10 pm

Here's a great article that Welsch wrote after the Cat/Griz game this last year...Hopefully Bobby learned a few lessons on class from Ochs.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/ar ... column.txt
Hauck not as endearing after loss
By Jeff Welsch, Chronicle Sports Editor

Opinion

MISSOULA - In the aftermath of the one game neither football coach can afford to lose, the gracious loser, wittingly or not, took a moment to subtly impart some wisdom on the relieved winner.
Just before leaving his postgame session with reporters from most of the state's daily newspapers, Bobcat coach Mike Kramer paused.

Outside the media room in Adams Fieldhouse, Montana's players and coaches waited for their turn.

That's the way it usually works at these things.

Shuffle the losers in for a few somber and brief comments before welcoming the smiling and talkative winners.


Kramer, who spent half of his press conference lamenting his team's late-season swoon and the other half praising the Grizzlies' surge, suddenly flashed on Montana quarterback Craig Ochs.

The agonizingly accurate passes? The maddeningly elusive scrambles? The grudgingly respected leadership?

No, though he'll be seeing plenty of that in his fits of insomnia over the next 12 months.

Instead, Kramer remembered Ochs, in the grim wake of his team's shattering defeat in the snow last season, making a point of congratulating the coach and wishing his family well.

"Classy," Kramer called it.

Saturday, uncertain whether he'd get the chance to do so personally, Kramer asked reporters to print the same wishes to Ochs.

And he was asking loud enough for anyone waiting in the hallway - say, UM coach Bobby Hauck - to hear.

Mere coincidence?

Or a subtle, timely, clever message about gracious losing?

Judge for yourself, but be aware that underneath all the multi-syllabic bluster is a man who has a reason for everything he says.

It escaped no one's notice last year that Hauck was anything but gracious after his Brawl of the Wild head-coaching debut.

In defeat, the onetime legend of Big Timber could barely speak at his press conference. When he did, it was about how the Grizzlies doomed themselves with their repeated "gifts" to the Bobcats.

Hauck would sooner swim the Clark Fork in winter than utter the words "Bobcats" or "Montana" and "State" together.

He's only slightly more likely to give Bobcat players credit, though he did praise receiver Ricky Gatewood after Saturday's 38-22 victory and lauded quarterback Travis Lulay occasionally during the week.

"This game is personal to me," Hauck acknowledged, noting that he's a third-generation Grizzly who listened to games with brother Tim while shooting baskets in the family's backyard in Big Timber.

"It takes a lot of discipline on my part not to be amped up."

Indeed, after last year's debacle, Hauck made the fortuitous decision to treat this year's Brawl as just another game for his players, knowing emotions would take care of themselves.

Too "amped" to go cold turkey himself last week, Hauck said he would "close the door and yell and scream" before emerging with a calm exterior for his players.

In fairness, the pressure to win this game is more intense at this juncture for Hauck than it is for Kramer.

He has a 25,000-seat stadium to fill, indulged boosters to placate, a juggernaut to keep at high octane.

The Bobcats have emerged as a credible player from the ashes of 0-11, but they remain the upstarts with the smaller stadium, fickle fan base and limited resources.

One look at the sea of maroon in the prettiest college football setting this side of Cal's Strawberry Canyon provides stark evidence of the daunting challenges the Bobcats face in this rivalry.

Thus, the last two years have disoriented the Grizzlies, even though they've won or shared the Big Sky Conference title for a record 12 seasons.

Saturday, as a maroon and white sign in the west grandstand pointed out, life was "Back to Normal."

"We felt like we righted the ship a little bit," Griz receiver Justin Heidelberger said.

Yes, but in his own way, so did Kramer, whose postgame graciousness in defeat elicited images of former Montana coach Joe Glenn, who refused to gloat over his team's Brawl domination.

Message heard?

Hauck did sheepishly refer to last year's press conference. He then closed by saying, "This beats the hell out of last year at this time."

Then again, it's easy to say in victory in the one game neither coach can afford to lose.


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coachouert wrote:
I'd want first-hand documentation about the "State" comment and the use of "Montana" comment (whatever those were). Coach Hauck has been here only 2 years, so direct evidence (not "rumors", not "stories", not stuff CelticCat heard from "many people") should be available if there is anything out there. Even if there was substantive evidence of both, and if that is all that could be proven about Hauck, then it would certainly be oversensitivity on the part of the 'Cat fans.
Head over to the College Sports World Thread. There is some quotes there from your beloved Bobby. Don't worry I put the newspaper articles along with them for reference checks. Wow, Bobby sure does ooze class in his postgame comments....

Thank you, come again! :D
Geeze, Couchouert, I looked over the massive listing. Forgive me if I'm underwhelmed. Seems the entire thing was about the post game from State's win over the Griz in 2003. And the problem there was that Coach Hauck did not appropriately laud State for its win, right? Well, it's not as if he called the State players or their coach "assholes" or "jerks" or any of the rest of the comments you 'Cat fans throw around as examples of "class," right? Oh, and for the record, the Daily Interlake reported the following before the Griz beat the ‘Cats last year: “UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game. ‘They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us,’ he said. ‘They've got a good team and we need to play well.’” Can you believe the nerve of the guy to say stuff like that about State? Oh, I'm sorry, "State" is some sort of obscenity, right? What a bunch of crybabies.



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Post by coachouert » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:56 pm

Geeze, Couchouert, I looked over the massive listing. Forgive me if I'm underwhelmed. Seems the entire thing was about the post game from State's win over the Griz in 2003. And the problem there was that Coach Hauck did not appropriately laud State for its win, right? Well, it's not as if he called the State players or their coach "assholes" or "jerks" or any of the rest of the comments you 'Cat fans throw around as examples of "class," right? Oh, and for the record, the Daily Interlake reported the following before the Griz beat the ‘Cats last year: “UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game. ‘They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us,’ he said. ‘They've got a good team and we need to play well.’” Can you believe the nerve of the guy to say stuff like that about State? Oh, I'm sorry, "State" is some sort of obscenity, right? What a bunch of crybabies.
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This was posted by BozoneCat on the College Sports World Thread. And just like everyone else has pointed out, this isn't an issue of fans using terms because BOTH schools fans use the terms you described. This is an issue of a COACH not showing class.

PS. very witty with the COUCH instead of the coach....wow, that was a burn. just playin with you :wink:

I think what University of Montana coach Bobby Hauck said about the Bobcats or Montana State is not right: "They don't deserve Montana in their name."First of all, we're all from Montana, whether we're Cats or Griz fans. In the Missoulian, Hauck couldn't even give the Cats a single compliment. He called the two touchdowns gifts. The Cats have worked on those kinds of things all year. MSU has one of the best kick return/punt return teams in the league. The Cats have one of the best defenses in the Big Sky Conference. They have top-of-the-line cornerbacks. They also pressured Greg Ochs and caused him to throw two interceptions, one returned for a touchdown. Another reason why the Cats won is Travis Lulay threw smart passes. The whole Cats team played their hearts out.

I think Hauck should at least give them a few compliments. Kramer did. The best motivational speech the Bobcats received was from Griz coach Hauck. "They don't deserve Montana in their name." Really?

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Post by GFGriz » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:17 pm

wbtfg wrote:Here's a great article that Welsch wrote after the Cat/Griz game this last year...Hopefully Bobby learned a few lessons on class from Ochs.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/ar ... column.txt
Hauck not as endearing after loss
By Jeff Welsch, Chronicle Sports Editor

Opinion

MISSOULA - In the aftermath of the one game neither football coach can afford to lose, the gracious loser, wittingly or not, took a moment to subtly impart some wisdom on the relieved winner.
Just before leaving his postgame session with reporters from most of the state's daily newspapers, Bobcat coach Mike Kramer paused.

Outside the media room in Adams Fieldhouse, Montana's players and coaches waited for their turn.

That's the way it usually works at these things.

Shuffle the losers in for a few somber and brief comments before welcoming the smiling and talkative winners.


Kramer, who spent half of his press conference lamenting his team's late-season swoon and the other half praising the Grizzlies' surge, suddenly flashed on Montana quarterback Craig Ochs.

The agonizingly accurate passes? The maddeningly elusive scrambles? The grudgingly respected leadership?

No, though he'll be seeing plenty of that in his fits of insomnia over the next 12 months.

Instead, Kramer remembered Ochs, in the grim wake of his team's shattering defeat in the snow last season, making a point of congratulating the coach and wishing his family well.

"Classy," Kramer called it.

Saturday, uncertain whether he'd get the chance to do so personally, Kramer asked reporters to print the same wishes to Ochs.

And he was asking loud enough for anyone waiting in the hallway - say, UM coach Bobby Hauck - to hear.

Mere coincidence?

Or a subtle, timely, clever message about gracious losing?

Judge for yourself, but be aware that underneath all the multi-syllabic bluster is a man who has a reason for everything he says.

It escaped no one's notice last year that Hauck was anything but gracious after his Brawl of the Wild head-coaching debut.

In defeat, the onetime legend of Big Timber could barely speak at his press conference. When he did, it was about how the Grizzlies doomed themselves with their repeated "gifts" to the Bobcats.

Hauck would sooner swim the Clark Fork in winter than utter the words "Bobcats" or "Montana" and "State" together.

He's only slightly more likely to give Bobcat players credit, though he did praise receiver Ricky Gatewood after Saturday's 38-22 victory and lauded quarterback Travis Lulay occasionally during the week.

"This game is personal to me," Hauck acknowledged, noting that he's a third-generation Grizzly who listened to games with brother Tim while shooting baskets in the family's backyard in Big Timber.

"It takes a lot of discipline on my part not to be amped up."

Indeed, after last year's debacle, Hauck made the fortuitous decision to treat this year's Brawl as just another game for his players, knowing emotions would take care of themselves.

Too "amped" to go cold turkey himself last week, Hauck said he would "close the door and yell and scream" before emerging with a calm exterior for his players.

In fairness, the pressure to win this game is more intense at this juncture for Hauck than it is for Kramer.

He has a 25,000-seat stadium to fill, indulged boosters to placate, a juggernaut to keep at high octane.

The Bobcats have emerged as a credible player from the ashes of 0-11, but they remain the upstarts with the smaller stadium, fickle fan base and limited resources.

One look at the sea of maroon in the prettiest college football setting this side of Cal's Strawberry Canyon provides stark evidence of the daunting challenges the Bobcats face in this rivalry.

Thus, the last two years have disoriented the Grizzlies, even though they've won or shared the Big Sky Conference title for a record 12 seasons.

Saturday, as a maroon and white sign in the west grandstand pointed out, life was "Back to Normal."

"We felt like we righted the ship a little bit," Griz receiver Justin Heidelberger said.

Yes, but in his own way, so did Kramer, whose postgame graciousness in defeat elicited images of former Montana coach Joe Glenn, who refused to gloat over his team's Brawl domination.

Message heard?

Hauck did sheepishly refer to last year's press conference. He then closed by saying, "This beats the hell out of last year at this time."

Then again, it's easy to say in victory in the one game neither coach can afford to lose.
Hmmm. But Welsch is an awful journalist, according to you State fans, if I get the drift of this thread. So maybe we could look at the reporting of a neutral reporter who is not looking to stoke the fires of the hatred State fans have for Coach Hauck.

Still plenty to play forPosted: Saturday, Nov 20, 2004 - 08:49:54 am PST
By ANDREW HINKELMAN
The Daily Inter Lake

Big Sky title, home playoff contest, bragging rights all up for grabs in annual gridiron contest

Today's 'Cat-Griz game has the Big Sky championship and a home playoff game on the line for Montana. It has state bragging rights and school pride on the line for Montana State.

It's a familiar scenario for this rivalry game over the last 18 years, and for 16 of them it resulted in a Griz victory. What is unfamiliar in this particular situation this year is the quality of the Bobcats.

This is an MSU team that was in first place in the conference just two weeks ago. But an uncharacteristic defensive breakdown in the two games leading up to the 'Cat-Griz game -- resulting in an unforgivable loss to Sacramento State and a bitter overtime defeat to Eastern Washington in a game the Bobcats led by three touchdowns in the second half -- has left Montana State as an also-ran in terms of a league title and playoffs.

Should the Bobcats be able to reclaim any of the defensive acumen they showed through the first eight games of the season, then today's 104th Brawl of the Wild could be one for the ages.

Consider that both teams average more than 30 points and 400 yards of offense (MSU is over 500) per game in league play. Both teams have All-American-worthy quarterbacks in Craig Ochs (Montana) and Travis Lulay (Montana State).

And while the Griz won 16 in a row from 1986 to 2001, the Bobcats have won the last two, each time preventing Montana from winning the Big Sky and taking the title for themselves.

All the ingredients are present for the makings of a classic.

"It's definitely still easy to get up, even if it isn't for the Big Sky championship," MSU linebacker and former Flathead star Mac Mollohan said. "One of our goals is to beat the Griz. We'll all be up for it."

For Montana State to have any shot, though, the defense is going to have to rebound after getting shredded two weeks in a row.

"Unfortunately for us, the wheels have come off defensively," Bobcats coach Mike Kramer said. "We've underplayed our own ability. As we look to Saturday, can our down four guys create enough harassment of Craig Ochs to force some turnovers?"

Said Mollohan: "For the front seven, we need to stop the run and we need to get to the quarterback so Ochs doesn't have time to throw it. We need to get after Ochs a lot and help our DBs out."

UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game.

"They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us," he said. "They've got a good team and we need to play well.


"Our goal on defense remains to improve every week. We need to put our best team out on the field on Saturday."

Kickoff from Washington Grizzly Stadium is scheduled for noon. The game can be seen locally on KAJ-TV, cable channel 8, over the air channel 18. Tom Katz will handle play-by-play with Flathead coach Grady Bennett and Mike Callaghan providing color.

NOTES: Montana leads the series 64-35-5, including 26-14-1 in Missoula. ... The Bobcats have turned in 10 100-yard receiving performances over the last five games, eight more than they had all of 2003. ... The Grizzlies are enjoying their 19th consecutive winning season and will likely make the playoffs for the 12th straight year. ... Lulay will start his 32nd consecutive game at quarterback. The junior is 18-13 during that stretch.



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Post by GFGriz » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:10 am

coachouert wrote:
Geeze, Couchouert, I looked over the massive listing. Forgive me if I'm underwhelmed. Seems the entire thing was about the post game from State's win over the Griz in 2003. And the problem there was that Coach Hauck did not appropriately laud State for its win, right? Well, it's not as if he called the State players or their coach "assholes" or "jerks" or any of the rest of the comments you 'Cat fans throw around as examples of "class," right? Oh, and for the record, the Daily Interlake reported the following before the Griz beat the ‘Cats last year: “UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game. ‘They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us,’ he said. ‘They've got a good team and we need to play well.’” Can you believe the nerve of the guy to say stuff like that about State? Oh, I'm sorry, "State" is some sort of obscenity, right? What a bunch of crybabies.
This was posted by BozoneCat on the College Sports World Thread. And just like everyone else has pointed out, this isn't an issue of fans using terms because BOTH schools fans use the terms you described. This is an issue of a COACH not showing class.

PS. very witty with the COUCH instead of the coach....wow, that was a burn. just playin with you :wink:

I think what University of Montana coach Bobby Hauck said about the Bobcats or Montana State is not right: "They don't deserve Montana in their name."First of all, we're all from Montana, whether we're Cats or Griz fans. In the Missoulian, Hauck couldn't even give the Cats a single compliment. He called the two touchdowns gifts. The Cats have worked on those kinds of things all year. MSU has one of the best kick return/punt return teams in the league. The Cats have one of the best defenses in the Big Sky Conference. They have top-of-the-line cornerbacks. They also pressured Greg Ochs and caused him to throw two interceptions, one returned for a touchdown. Another reason why the Cats won is Travis Lulay threw smart passes. The whole Cats team played their hearts out.

I think Hauck should at least give them a few compliments. Kramer did. The best motivational speech the Bobcats received was from Griz coach Hauck. "They don't deserve Montana in their name." Really?

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Sorry Couch, but no one gets a pass in the class department simply because they're not coaches. The rule is that no one who lacks class can demand class of anyone else. That goes for all the State fans on this thread who feel free to call Coach Hauck an "asshole" and then start crying because he doesn't say enough nice things about them to make them feel good.



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Post by lifeloyalsigmsu » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:05 am

Sorry Couch, but no one gets a pass in the class department simply because they're not coaches. The rule is that no one who lacks class can demand class of anyone else. That goes for all the State fans on this thread who feel free to call Coach Hauck an "asshole" and then start crying because he doesn't say enough nice things about them to make them feel good.
So says the poster who is calling the above MSU poster Couch instead of coachouert. For someone who bitches and moans about name calling and seems to have an obsessive belief that Cat fans have no class, you sure lost track of what the term hypocrite means.

I certainly hope you can see how stupid you are showing yourself to be with each post you make.

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Post by Eastcoastgriz » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:21 am

Spent some time last night on the ol-internet and her's what I found:

Quotes by Coach Hauck, November 2003, talking about the “brawl of the wild”

"All that stuff is irrelevant until the game is over,'' said Montana first-year coach Bobby Hauck. ”To me it's about the rivalry. It's about beating them. We'll enjoy the fruits of that if we can win the game. But it's all about beating State.''

"My biggest concern is Lulay,'' Hauck said. "He's so diverse in how he can hurt you. We need to keep him hemmed up first and we can't let their backs have a big day.”

"How would you assess Lulay's play?" Hauck said. "Craig threw for a better percentage, and more yards, and so on and so forth. ... He was the better quarterback in the game today."

Quotes by Coach Hauck, November 2004, talking about the “brawl of the wild”

It's hard to say, (but) both offenses have been playing very well in recent weeks. I think we'll both be hard to stop offensively."

"I think that rivalry games are always big, and I think it's great we're playing it the last weekend of the season," he said. "It's kind of rivalry week across the nation. I love it. I think it's the big game of the year, so it's important.”


And on a side note, here’s what Kramer had to say. Sounds like that cats had already thrown in the towel.

Montana State coach Mike Kramer admitted that his usual excitement is lacking.

"It's not nearly as much fun, I've got to say it," he said. "We really want to play as well as possible, and give our seniors as good a shot as anything to end their careers. I never thought this group of seniors - that we recruited - would lose their last three games. That would be crushing. We want to play passionate for those guys, because they mean so much to us. That's the focus in our game."

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Post by Uncle Rico » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:35 am

UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game.

"They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us," he said. "They've got a good team and we need to play well.


"Our goal on defense remains to improve every week. We need to put our best team out on the field on Saturday."

gfgriz,
Maybe we would see things differently if you posted this quote one more time. You seem think we are um educated and need to see the same information multiple times to grasp it.
If you can't understand what every Bobcat poster has tried to explain to you in this thread, you are even more pathetic than your posts make you sound. I am grateful however that you have given up your armchair psychoanalysis attempts.



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Post by GFGriz » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:11 am

Uncle Rico wrote:UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game.

"They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us," he said. "They've got a good team and we need to play well.


"Our goal on defense remains to improve every week. We need to put our best team out on the field on Saturday."

gfgriz,
Maybe we would see things differently if you posted this quote one more time. You seem think we are um educated and need to see the same information multiple times to grasp it.
If you can't understand what every Bobcat poster has tried to explain to you in this thread, you are even more pathetic than your posts make you sound. I am grateful however that you have given up your armchair psychoanalysis attempts.
Not "um educated". It's one word, and it doesn't include an "m". I think you State folks are just "uneducated." When the only thing you State fans can rely upon to show how "classless" Coach Hauck supposedly is relates to one game, then, yes, I do think things have to be repeated. And the spin has been that Coach Hauck "despises" everything related to State, and never has a good thing to say about State. Sorry, but the facts just don't support that.



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Post by GFGriz » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:18 am

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
Sorry Couch, but no one gets a pass in the class department simply because they're not coaches. The rule is that no one who lacks class can demand class of anyone else. That goes for all the State fans on this thread who feel free to call Coach Hauck an "asshole" and then start crying because he doesn't say enough nice things about them to make them feel good.
So says the poster who is calling the above MSU poster Couch instead of coachouert. For someone who bitches and moans about name calling and seems to have an obsessive belief that Cat fans have no class, you sure lost track of what the term hypocrite means.

I certainly hope you can see how stupid you are showing yourself to be with each post you make.

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Hmmm. Somehow using "couch" instead of "coach" just doesn't seem to me to be in the same league as you State fans referring to Coach Hauck as an "asshole" and "jerk".



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Post by mquast53000 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:22 am

GFGriz- That one quote! For a guy that is so great I would think finding quotes to refute your position would be easy. You can find hundreds of quotes from Kramer saying positive things about the Griz, but only one from Bobby (and it isn’t even that good of a quote). Are you related to Bobby somehow? I just don’t get how 90% of all people realize that this man has a huge character flaw, but you just cannot see it!


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Post by grizbeer » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:43 am

mquast53000 wrote:GFGriz- That one quote! For a guy that is so great I would think finding quotes to refute your position would be easy. You can find hundreds of quotes from Kramer saying positive things about the Griz, but only one from Bobby (and it isn’t even that good of a quote). Are you related to Bobby somehow? I just don’t get how 90% of all Cat Fans and 10% of all objective people realize that this man has a huge character flaw, but you just cannot see it!
Fixed that for you Quast. Also could have substituted Mr. Welsch for GFGriz since apparently anyone who can't see that Bobby is insulting the Cat's with every statement is clearly delusional in your world.



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Post by Eastcoastgriz » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:15 am

mquast53000 wrote:GFGriz- That one quote! For a guy that is so great I would think finding quotes to refute your position would be easy. You can find hundreds of quotes from Kramer saying positive things about the Griz, but only one from Bobby (and it isn’t even that good of a quote). Are you related to Bobby somehow? I just don’t get how 90% of all people realize that this man has a huge character flaw, but you just cannot see it!
You cant find 5 from the past 2 years.


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Post by Uncle Rico » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:50 am

GFGriz wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game.

"They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us," he said. "They've got a good team and we need to play well.


"Our goal on defense remains to improve every week. We need to put our best team out on the field on Saturday."

gfgriz,
Maybe we would see things differently if you posted this quote one more time. You seem think we are um educated and need to see the same information multiple times to grasp it.
If you can't understand what every Bobcat poster has tried to explain to you in this thread, you are even more pathetic than your posts make you sound. I am grateful however that you have given up your armchair psychoanalysis attempts.
Not "um educated". It's one word, and it doesn't include an "m". I think you State folks are just "uneducated." When the only thing you State fans can rely upon to show how "classless" Coach Hauck supposedly is relates to one game, then, yes, I do think things have to be repeated. And the spin has been that Coach Hauck "despises" everything related to State, and never has a good thing to say about State. Sorry, but the facts just don't support that.
Let me re-phrase, you missed the point.
"You seem to think we were educated at um and need to see the same information multiple times to grasp the meaning."
There is no spin regarding hack. He hates MSU as much as I hate um. The difference is, as mquast so eloquently put it, he is a coach and I am a fan. He represents not only um, but at times, the state of Montana. He should be held to a higher standard.

I guess you um fans are just 'umeducated'



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Post by GFGriz » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:29 am

Uncle Rico wrote:
GFGriz wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:UM coach Bobby Hauck was confident the Bobcats would get their defense together for today's game.

"They've got a good defense and they'll play well against us," he said. "They've got a good team and we need to play well.


"Our goal on defense remains to improve every week. We need to put our best team out on the field on Saturday."

gfgriz,
Maybe we would see things differently if you posted this quote one more time. You seem think we are um educated and need to see the same information multiple times to grasp it.
If you can't understand what every Bobcat poster has tried to explain to you in this thread, you are even more pathetic than your posts make you sound. I am grateful however that you have given up your armchair psychoanalysis attempts.
Not "um educated". It's one word, and it doesn't include an "m". I think you State folks are just "uneducated." When the only thing you State fans can rely upon to show how "classless" Coach Hauck supposedly is relates to one game, then, yes, I do think things have to be repeated. And the spin has been that Coach Hauck "despises" everything related to State, and never has a good thing to say about State. Sorry, but the facts just don't support that.
Let me re-phrase, you missed the point.
"You seem to think we were educated at um and need to see the same information multiple times to grasp the meaning."
There is no spin regarding hack. He hates MSU as much as I hate um. The difference is, as mquast so eloquently put it, he is a coach and I am a fan. He represents not only um, but at times, the state of Montana. He should be held to a higher standard.

I guess you um fans are just 'umeducated'
Never having attended State, I wondered what kind of values that place instills. You answered that question for me, Rico, when you describe with approval the "eloquent" statement of Mquast that as fans of MSU, you are held to a lower standard. Other posters from State on this thread have said the same thing: they don't need to act with "class" because they are just State fans. All the while they berate in the most foul and gutter language a coach who has brought his teams, his fans, and the State of Montana pride in taking the Griz to the National Championship in only his second year, and who has done so complimenting his in-state rival. I was raised to believe I could and should follow a higher standard. I learned that from my parents, my family, my friends, and the teachers I had at Carroll and at UM. I see the same qualities in the Griz team and its coaches, including and especially Coach Hauck. I suppose there is nothing sadder than reading post after post from you State fans saying higher standards don't apply to you, that you don't need to act with class, that you can use obscene language all the while complaining that Coach Hauck doesn't give you respect. Who can respect a school whose fans not only stoop to the gutter, but boast about it?



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Post by CelticCat » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:43 am

We said ANY FAN doesn't have to act with class, for any team, on any level, for any sports, anywhere in the world. Man you keep amazing me with your inability to comprehend full sentences.

We certainly aren't the classiest bunch of fans in Bozeman, I know, but to say the Griz fans are always in the highest standard is just as absurd. In fact you saying that all things griz are in the highest standard just reinforces the view that we have of you being arrogant and condescending. Griz fans who try to argue otherwise always defeat themselves with contradictory phrases. I love it.


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Post by mquast53000 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:52 am

CelticCat wrote:We said ANY FAN doesn't have to act with class, for any team, on any level, for any sports, anywhere in the world. Man you keep amazing me with your inability to comprehend full sentences.

We certainly aren't the classiest bunch of fans in Bozeman, I know, but to say the Griz fans are always in the highest standard is just as absurd. In fact you saying that all things griz are in the highest standard just reinforces the view that we have of you being arrogant and condescending. Griz fans who try to argue otherwise always defeat themselves with contradictory phrases. I love it.
Well put Celtic. This guy keeps taking every statement made on this thread and twists and construes a post into saying what he wants. He even has tried throwing in some Freudian bull s***. GFgoodwrench Ignorance and arrogance do not pass off as intelligence.


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Post by Go Scats Go » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:48 pm

CelticCat wrote:We said ANY FAN doesn't have to act with class, for any team, on any level, for any sports, anywhere in the world. Man you keep amazing me with your inability to comprehend full sentences.

We certainly aren't the classiest bunch of fans in Bozeman, I know, but to say the Griz fans are always in the highest standard is just as absurd. In fact you saying that all things griz are in the highest standard just reinforces the view that we have of you being arrogant and condescending. Griz fans who try to argue otherwise always defeat themselves with contradictory phrases. I love it.
Almost every game the Griz play at home- The visiting fans, players and coaches comment on the Noise, stadium AND CLASSY KNOWLEDGABLE FANS

Ever heard that in Kitty Land????



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