Huse contract extension? Good idea?

[wbtfg]

exactly. when people wanted durham gone everyone was saying the same thing. and to be honest, when i think back to exciting basketball...most of my memories go all the way back to the durham days unfortunately. most of you remember i was a big durham fan and i always thought that our issues went way beyond coaching unfortunately. i think i was right. what is so much better now than when durham was here? and just to clarify, i really like huse too. he's a great guy and i think he's a smart coach. but we need to figure something out fast in regards to recruiting. we have guys on this team that i'm sorry, but they have no business playing at this level. and i have seen this pattern over the years. it's just frustrating because i don't care how good of a coach you are come gametime...if you can't get the right players here it doesn't make a difference.

but to be fair, i can't blame huse for losing the excitement of cat basketball. let's be honest....it hasn't been exciting for a long time, and that includes some of durhams last years. i still think we'd be better off right now if we'd have kept durham. he's every bit the x's and o's guy huse is....but he was a better recruiter too.

all that said, i'll still support huse and if i was the AD i'd give him one more year. but i'd make it very clear that the talent needs to get better and fast.

Ditto...great post.

[longhorn_22]

We really need a frontcourt. Again. We do not have the size to win the BSC this year or any other year in the foreseeable future.

[CPACAT]

exactly. when people wanted durham gone everyone was saying the same thing. and to be honest, when i think back to exciting basketball...most of my memories go all the way back to the durham days unfortunately. most of you remember i was a big durham fan and i always thought that our issues went way beyond coaching unfortunately. i think i was right. what is so much better now than when durham was here? and just to clarify, i really like huse too. he's a great guy and i think he's a smart coach. but we need to figure something out fast in regards to recruiting. we have guys on this team that i'm sorry, but they have no business playing at this level. and i have seen this pattern over the years. it's just frustrating because i don't care how good of a coach you are come gametime...if you can't get the right players here it doesn't make a difference.

but to be fair, i can't blame huse for losing the excitement of cat basketball. let's be honest....it hasn't been exciting for a long time, and that includes some of durhams last years. i still think we'd be better off right now if we'd have kept durham. he's every bit the x's and o's guy huse is....but he was a better recruiter too.

all that said, i'll still support huse and if i was the AD i'd give him one more year. but i'd make it very clear that the talent needs to get better and fast.

Part of the problem is the way the game is played these days. It is a lot different that it was 20 years ago. I don't think the game itself is as exciting and I don't think the players are as fundamentally sound as they were back then.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

exactly. when people wanted durham gone everyone was saying the same thing. and to be honest, when i think back to exciting basketball...most of my memories go all the way back to the durham days unfortunately. most of you remember i was a big durham fan and i always thought that our issues went way beyond coaching unfortunately. i think i was right. what is so much better now than when durham was here? and just to clarify, i really like huse too. he's a great guy and i think he's a smart coach. but we need to figure something out fast in regards to recruiting. we have guys on this team that i'm sorry, but they have no business playing at this level. and i have seen this pattern over the years. it's just frustrating because i don't care how good of a coach you are come gametime...if you can't get the right players here it doesn't make a difference.

but to be fair, i can't blame huse for losing the excitement of cat basketball. let's be honest....it hasn't been exciting for a long time, and that includes some of durhams last years. i still think we'd be better off right now if we'd have kept durham. he's every bit the x's and o's guy huse is....but he was a better recruiter too.

all that said, i'll still support huse and if i was the AD i'd give him one more year. but i'd make it very clear that the talent needs to get better and fast.

Part of the problem is the way the game is played these days. It is a lot different that it was 20 years ago. I don't think the game itself is as exciting and I don't think the players are as fundamentally sound as they were back then.

Exactly. It seems like basketball is all about dunks/layups and shooting the 3 now. How many medium range jump shots have you seen this year? How many players coming off a double pick for the quick curl/medium J? You hardly see any of that now. It is crank the 3 .. make it people cheer, miss it .. keep cranking it (because you may make one and people will cheer (after you have missed 3-4 of them already). I don't know how many possessions I saw against the Griz where we shot the 3 only being 6-8 seconds into the shot clock. I like the effort of this team, but they need to play smarter.

[GrizinWashington]

No doubt. The 3 point line destroyed mid-range jump shooting. The worst shot in college basketball now is the 16 footer. Statistically, they're not made at a much greater rate than a shot from 19 feet, but the latter is worth 3 points. It just makes no sense to shoot mid range jump shots.

[Helcat72]

Exactly. It seems like basketball is all about dunks/layups and shooting the 3 now. How many medium range jump shots have you seen this year? How many players coming off a double pick for the quick curl /medium J? You hardly see any of that now. It is crank the 3 .. make it people cheer, miss it .. keep cranking it (because you may make one and people will cheer (after you have missed 3-4 of them already). I don't know how many possessions I saw against the Griz where we shot the 3 only being 6-8 seconds into the shot clock. I like the effort of this team, but they need to play smarter.

Well...since Danny Sprinkle...the only other one now is Katie Bussey!

[BelgradeBobcat]

The 15 foot jumper-the 15 foot bank shot. All lost arts. The three pointer changed the game significantly-I'm also not sure if it's for the better.

But the other thing that's really different about basketball compared to other eras like the 70's was much softer. Defense today is emphasized, is much more physical, and defense is more sophisticated I think. Watch some of the highlights in the video-from one of the greatest games in NCAA basektball history. Especially watch the defense off the ball-it ain't like that anymore. Thus basketball can be a lot uglier.

[youtube][/youtube]

[GrizinWashington]

Wow, those guys are lean! As Belgrade said, the game is so much more physical now and all of those guys would simply get muscled out. These days, point guards have more beef than anyone on the floor in that game.

[CelticCat]

Larry Bird was listed at 6'9 220. Lebron James is about 6'8 250.

[John K]

Those are all valid points, and I pretty much agree. But that still doesn't really answer the question of why we haven't been more competitve in MBB? All these issues affect every other MBB program in the country too, not just MSU. I mean the numbers don't lie....zero BSC titles/NCAA tourney berths in the past 14 years....zero wins in the BSC tourney in 10 out of the past 11 seasons....that's pretty pathetic. I don't pretend to know what the solution may be, but I'm really tired of being mediocre in men's hoops.

[GrizinWashington]

zero wins in the BSC tourney in 10 out of the past 11 seasons

Really?? Is that accurate? I would never have guessed that.

[John K]

zero wins in the BSC tourney in 10 out of the past 11 seasons

Really?? Is that accurate? I would never have guessed that.

Yep....since losing to NAU in the BSC championship game in 1998, MSU has either lost their first tournament game, or missed the tourney completely, every single season except for 2009, when they lost to PSU in the title game.

[bobcatbob]

Coach Huse has not gotten the job done. We need to face up to that. He hasn't created any excitement into the program. He is a nice guy and works extremely hard but it's not geting done. We were at home tonight and were dominated. This is the only game tonight that draws a crowd. Why is that ?

[John K]

Coach Huse has not gotten the job done. We need to face up to that. He hasn't created any excitement into the program. He is a nice guy and works extremely hard but it's not geting done. We were at home tonight and were dominated. This is the only game tonight that draws a crowd. Why is that ?

I'm hesitant to say that Huse should get the hook just yet, but the program really hasn't improved one bit since his first season. And I believe that if we haven't seen the results we expected by his fifth year on the job, that it's probably fairly unlikely that we will ever see them. We got luckiy in the tourney two years ago, but that's pretty much been the highlight of his tenure so far. UM may be the best team in the conference, but we shouldn't get dominated like that at home by any BSC team. There's no way to sugarcoat it....MSU looked really bad in both games against the Griz. I thought at least the effort was better last night, but we still got oustcored by 20 points in the 2nd half at home, which is just inexcusable.

[Old Skool Cat]

I was one that agreed with the parting of ways of MSU and Mick Durham. Mick's style of play had become stagnant, he recruited no height, and failed to make the BSC tourney at times in his last few years. I really liked the hire of Huse initially, and I think at first it did bring a spark of life back to the program. At least we are now consistently getting back to the tourney, but still not winning many games once we get there. We seem to be more competitive under Huse, and we seem to play harder.

That said, the program really is no further ahead than when Huse took over. In his four previous years, last year was the first time we posted a winning record in both conference play and overall. But I am seeing the same things happen under Huse that happened under Durham: we don't recruit height, we fail miserably in the second half of the season, we don't have good team chemistry or floor leadership, we don't take good shots and rely almost soley on the three-ball. Right now, we are 5-4 in the conference and 11-10 overall. Unfortunately, it appears it's only gonna get uglier before it gets better. We have two on the road this weekend with NAU and Weber. With the way we are playing, chances are very good we drop both of those. We then come back home against N. Colorado & Sac State. I think we split those, losing to UNC. After the next 2 weekends, we very well could be 6-7 conference, 12-13 overall. We follow those games up with 2 non-conference games in San Jose State and a home Bracket Buster game. Always tough to break up conference play with non-conference games. Depending on who we get for the Bracket Buster match-up, we probably drop both of those non-conference games.

Right now, it would appear that we are headed for another typical Bobcat finish, floundering at the end and scraping to get in the conference tourney. I think if that's the case, then Coach Huse probably will need to be put on notice.

[CatBlitz]

I liked the excitement we had with Bynum and Mbunga. The team the previous 2 years was fun to watch.

[TIrwin24]

I think this issue needs to be re-evaluated after last week's pitiful showing.

[John K]

I think this issue needs to be re-evaluated after last week's pitiful showing.

I agree. I'm not prepared to put up with too many more years of this. I've seen this movie too many times already, and it alwyas ends the same way. Start out fast in BSC play....get everyone all excited that we might actually be a legitimate contender this year....then flop miserably in the 2nd half of conference play. Only the flop this year has been even worse than ever before. As I said on another thread, we know all too well from the "Solomonson experience" in football, how damaging it can be to a program, to keep an ineffective coach on board too long. How would you like to have to sell potential recruits on a program that finished the season with a 12-game losing streak, which now seems very possible.

[gtapp]

Let's change this up a little. If Huse was let go who would you want as head coach and why would he make a difference? I will start with Danny Sprinkle. Good coach and knows the recruiting process well, especially out of state.

[John K]

Let's change this up a little. If Huse was let go who would you want as head coach and why would he make a difference? I will start with Danny Sprinkle. Good coach and knows the recruiting process well, especially out of state.

I think his name certainly should be on the list of potential candidates. It wouldn't hurt to have someone who is connected to an era when Bobcat basketball was successful. I know he was also well respected during his time as an MSU assistant. Where is he coaching currently?