Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by CATFAN93 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:28 am

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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by Bobcat Sig » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:30 am

Denial. It's not just a river in Egypt.


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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by Cat Fam » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:44 am

I know I'm new at this posting thing, but this made me laugh out loud!

I'm not an expert, BUT I was visiting with a couple of guys that are former GRIZ players, graduated a few years ago, and here's what they had to say......
"I hope it snows, and rains, and everything else, that's the only way to stop your passing game", "All I can do is hope for a miracle, we (Griz) have no running game, we have no passing game, we're screwed"

:lol: :lol: :lol:



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by AlphaGriz1 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:45 am

DicTater wrote:It's really pretty simple. The Cats have the most efficient and balanced offense in the Big Sky. It doesn't matter how many yards rushing Kirk gets. If the Griz put 8 in the box, the Cats will burn them through the air. If they stay in a cover 2, the Cats will run. The Cats are very different from other teams. They don't have to run or throw. But, the Griz simply won't be able to stop both. Look at the difference in 3rd down efficiency. Cats are by far the best, which means the opponent can't load up for anything in particular and it means no matter what play the Cats run, they're very good at it.

The defenses are both very good, but are very different. Griz rely on blitzing, the Cats hardly ever blitz. The key for the Cats is that they have been able to get pressure on the QB with their front 4 alone. (look at the sack stats). That means they have a lot of guys in coverage. Griz, on the other hand, get pressure by blitzing leaving their secondary vulnerable. On the run, the Cats are able to stop the run in their base defense. Griz rely on run blitzes, once again leaving them susceptible to the big play.

I think one of the big differences is red zone efficiency. The Cats score a lot more touchdowns than the Griz. The spread offense just isn't as effective in the red zone. If Griz just kick field goals, they'll lose.
Other than my posts this is the only guy so far that has a clue.

Nice post.


I agree with almost everything you said but you are forgetting a few things.

Yes your offense is very balanced you are correct. Akpla has almost twice as many catches as the next guy Bleskin. TJ should be on him all day long so that pretty much takes him out of the equation. That leaves Roots on Bleskin and other than height I am more than comfortable with that match up as well.

There are no other teams that can match up against your passing game like that one on one.

This leaves our Safeties and LBs free to cover what little you have left, Ellis, Kirk, Gilbert and I am pretty sure thats covered. Even if you dont pass then we have added run support. I said it before, you guys just dont match up with us well. You dont have the one or 2 big glaring advantages you have had against the other teams you have squeaked by in the BSC.

We have the players and personnel to play in a 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5 and your QB hasnt seen that many multiple looks all season. In fact I know that is going to give him trouble on passing downs, that and nobody open. I would be shocked if we play a ton of zone but it will be mixed in some.

Bottom line is our defense can match up with whatever you run or throw at us.......I am not sure I can say the same about your offense matching up with our D.


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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by Joe Bobcat » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:14 am

We have the players and personnel to play in a 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5 and your QB hasnt seen that many multiple looks all season. In fact I know that is going to give him trouble on passing downs, that and nobody open. I would be shocked if we play a ton of zone but it will be mixed in some.



You are mistaken there, as coach Phlu pointed out the cats have been able to watch film on you guys all season and that is all we have done all season long is look at film of the griz.
We've never paid any attention to the film of any of the other teams we've played this year because all we've done is watch you guys, and still we've beat all comers. Now imagine how prepared we are for this game having spent all season only watching film of you. That certainly has to give any and all narcissistic griz goose bumps knowing how much they have been watch all year.

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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by WeedKillinCat » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:25 am

Yes we can beat the griz. Though I think it will come down to turnovers because of the colder weather. I just don't see how the griz can pull it off in Bozeman. In the last griz game you had to kick 6 FG's and I think 5 were near the redzone (correct me if I am wrong) and that is against a D2 school at home. That says something about the offense. I don't want to hear the old excuse of that they griz didn't want to show their hand. Heck, its not like it is the first game of the year. The Cats have seen plenty of footage all year. The griz have been inconsistent and only put one solid game together against Weber at home.


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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by BillingsBobcat12 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:26 am

AlphaGriz1 wrote:He is the best over all QB we have had at UM this decade.
Being that it is only 2011, it's not too hard to be the best of the decade.



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by Sotallytober » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:56 am

BillingsBobcat12 wrote:Being that it is only 2011, it's not too hard to be the best of the decade.
JJ is certainly the best at not getting a DUI or tased.



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:04 pm

AlphaGriz1 wrote:
DicTater wrote:It's really pretty simple. The Cats have the most efficient and balanced offense in the Big Sky. It doesn't matter how many yards rushing Kirk gets. If the Griz put 8 in the box, the Cats will burn them through the air. If they stay in a cover 2, the Cats will run. The Cats are very different from other teams. They don't have to run or throw. But, the Griz simply won't be able to stop both. Look at the difference in 3rd down efficiency. Cats are by far the best, which means the opponent can't load up for anything in particular and it means no matter what play the Cats run, they're very good at it.

The defenses are both very good, but are very different. Griz rely on blitzing, the Cats hardly ever blitz. The key for the Cats is that they have been able to get pressure on the QB with their front 4 alone. (look at the sack stats). That means they have a lot of guys in coverage. Griz, on the other hand, get pressure by blitzing leaving their secondary vulnerable. On the run, the Cats are able to stop the run in their base defense. Griz rely on run blitzes, once again leaving them susceptible to the big play.

I think one of the big differences is red zone efficiency. The Cats score a lot more touchdowns than the Griz. The spread offense just isn't as effective in the red zone. If Griz just kick field goals, they'll lose.
Other than my posts this is the only guy so far that has a clue.

Nice post.


I agree with almost everything you said but you are forgetting a few things.

Yes your offense is very balanced you are correct. Akpla has almost twice as many catches as the next guy Bleskin. TJ should be on him all day long so that pretty much takes him out of the equation. That leaves Roots on Bleskin and other than height I am more than comfortable with that match up as well.

There are no other teams that can match up against your passing game like that one on one.

This leaves our Safeties and LBs free to cover what little you have left, Ellis, Kirk, Gilbert and I am pretty sure thats covered. Even if you dont pass then we have added run support. I said it before, you guys just dont match up with us well. You dont have the one or 2 big glaring advantages you have had against the other teams you have squeaked by in the BSC.

We have the players and personnel to play in a 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5 and your QB hasnt seen that many multiple looks all season. In fact I know that is going to give him trouble on passing downs, that and nobody open. I would be shocked if we play a ton of zone but it will be mixed in some.

Bottom line is our defense can match up with whatever you run or throw at us.......I am not sure I can say the same about your offense matching up with our D.
We will beat you all day on play action (rolling the pocket) and crossing routes. You are going to have to blitz to stop the run and the middle will be wide open. You may match up better to us, but you also have not played a guy that can stick the ball on a rope on target across the middle like DMac can. The game will go just like last year except the Cats will score more points in the second half this year.



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by Bobcat_Mouw » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:19 pm

No team is "due" for ******; that's not how it works. It's called preparation during the week and execution on game day. Clearly if you think we haven't had our bad game yet (which I disagree with see UNC and WS), that just mean we have had good prepartion during the week and executed on game day which is props to our coaches and players. Same can be said about the griz not putting 2 quarters together all season. Falls on your prepartion during the week and execution on gameday. Clearly your coaches aren't doing the job needed to get the players ready to play and the players aren't ready to play when the time to play is in front of them. The only thing I see being "due" is dUMb's time at the top officially being over. Saturday will tell the story.



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by [cat_bracket] » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:47 pm

UM is selling out to stop the run and even if they're able to create 3rd and longs they don't have anything in the form of a pass rush from their front four. They will be forced to send LBs after McGhee sits back and takes them apart. When they do it'll just leave more wide open receivers.

Our offense is a nightmare to prepare for and UM cannot matchup. They can "fly around" all they want. In the run game alone we have both Tray and Kirk up the gut, McGhee faking to them and following, we have Gilbert in motion running reverse and at tailback giving a speed element, and Kirk running the Wildcat. That leaves UM hosed on play action.



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by MashTun » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:11 pm

AlphaGriz1 wrote:Look, you had a nice little season but seriously, this isnt your version of Kansas anymore.

You finally were able to climb atop the BSC this season, granted the BSC is incredibly weak year after year and this year was even a down year. Kudos you still got it done and that is a HUGE hurdle for you guys to get over.

This is basically a playoff game and we all know what happens to you guys year after..........every 4 or 5 years when you make the playoffs. Last year it was big bad NDSU coming into your house and kicking you around and this year it will be us..........AGAIN.


This isnt smack, its just fact and you know it, so please....seriously...tell me why you guys think you have any chance of this being a close game? I just dont see you guys within a TD of us even if we turn the ball over a couple times.

Well have at it.......let the delusion begin.
Have to give you credit Alpha, you're a great agitator. [-X

Don't be surprised if your beloved griz are down a couple TD's as the game finishes up. The Cats are the better team this year, and everyone knows it even griz fans. It sure is great fun listening and watching the griz faithful squirm.. 8)


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Post by CapitalCityCat » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:13 pm

MashTun wrote:Have to give you credit Alpha, you're a great agitator.
pretty sure his personalized plates say "AG1 T8R" :wink:


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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by mtsportsfan » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:23 pm

Apha knows that the only chance the griz have is if they play perfect football and the Cats play very poor football! Alpha is just setting all of us up to say 'I told you so' come Sunday no matter when the Cats win and/or the griz get lucky and win. His posts have no merit when he states JJ is better then DM. The two QB's aren't even on the same level, JJ is playing pop warner and DM is playing BCS. I know it is tough to swallow, but you have three more years of it!



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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by 60's Cat » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:53 pm

mtsportsfan wrote:Apha knows that the only chance the griz have is if they play perfect football and the Cats play very poor football! Alpha is just setting all of us up to say 'I told you so' come Sunday no matter when the Cats win and/or the griz get lucky and win. His posts have no merit when he states JJ is better then DM. The two QB's aren't even on the same level, JJ is playing pop warner and DM is playing BCS. I know it is tough to swallow, but you have three more years of it!

Well, maybe two more years.


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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by bigkid » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:00 pm

=D^ =D^ =D^ Nice work Alpha. You're words of truth and honesty have shown what lack of football knowledge the great bcn posters have. Just wait until what Breske throws at them. They'll be twirling around like a top puking on each other :lol:
It really is amazing how you just cast it out and real em in.......
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Post by CPACAT » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:17 pm

bigkid wrote:=D^ =D^ =D^ Nice work Alpha. You're words of truth and honesty have shown what lack of football knowledge the great bcn posters have. Just wait until what Breske throws at them. They'll be twirling around like a top puking on each other :lol:
It really is amazing how you just cast it out and real em in.......
Go Griz!!

I hope you are back here next week after we curb stomp yer azz. If anyone here has shown a lack of football knowledge it is you. Come back next week and we can explain football to you using the beatdown of the griz this week to show you.


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Post by CPACAT » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:18 pm

In answer to AG1's question- Do you guys REALLY think we won't beat you???


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Re: Do You Guys REALLY Think You Can Beat UM?

Post by AlphaGriz1 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:20 pm

CapitalCityCat wrote:
MashTun wrote:Have to give you credit Alpha, you're a great agitator.
pretty sure his personalized plates say "AG1 T8R" :wink:
Those are not my plates.............but they will be!

Great idea for the Corvette I am looking to buy................. =D^ =D^


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Post by The Big Meowski » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:26 pm

AlphaGriz1 wrote:
CapitalCityCat wrote:
MashTun wrote:Have to give you credit Alpha, you're a great agitator.
pretty sure his personalized plates say "AG1 T8R" :wink:
Those are not my plates.............but they will be!

Great idea for the Corvette I am looking to buy................. =D^ =D^
That Corvette will compliment to your toy Jeep nicely! Hope it makes next year's video. Any plans to get some action firures?


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