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GRZSLAYER
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by GRZSLAYER » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:48 am
wbtfg wrote:allcat wrote:I don't feel bad for Huse, I think that he is at the heart of this. All of these people leave, or do things that are classless. I think that the program does not seem to have any control.
I think Huse came to the end of his "honeymoon" a couple years ago and felt the pressure to start putting up more wins. Because of that, I think he's taken some chances on guys who have talent (though the W/L results may indicate otherwise), but maybe have some personal/academic baggage. The same thing happened to Mick Durham as well as Mike Kramer.
I was on the Huse bandwagon from Day 1, as I have a lot of respect for the guy, but I really think this will be his last year as the MSU head coach.
BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:mslacatfan wrote:I feel bad for Coach Huse, I have never heard of a coach that has had more players leave or dismissed from the team (for various reasons) over a couple year period. Will there even be enough players for a starting 5 this season? Should the Athletic Department just say Fuk it, and scrap the basketball program all together... its become an absolute joke.
You don't think that at the very least some of the players leaving might actually be Huse's fault? I wouldn't wanna play for the guy. I mean, obviously the Fall thing is not his fault. That's just the N-C-double Ass-holes being the N-C double Ass-holes. A lot of guys leaving seems like a pattern rather than the coach being a victim of circumstance.
I do wish that if he was going to recruit a criminal element, he'd at least recruit criminals who are better at basketball

I agree with both you guys. I am sick and tired of this and anyone who feels sorry for Huse needs to think about it. When I saw this the first thing I thought is can we finally get rid of Huse. What has he done for the program? Our play on the court hasn't improved. If anything it has steadly gotten worse. Now on top of it a large portion of the team, especially players from the last two classes have done nothing but leave, or get thrown off the team for off court issues. It would be one thing if the Cats were a .500 team, but steller model citizens, but lets face it this is the worst this program has been in a long time. Huse has nobody to blame but himself. Here's a question is Blunt still on the team, because if he is that is another head scrather for me. He should be sitting on the curb with the rest of them. This program will go nowhere if Huse doesn't leave. I am far more of a football supporter than I am of basketball, but I probably won't even go to a game this year. I would rather see a team rally around an assistant than deal with Huse. What good talent we get leaves because they can't stand him, or they are just ticking time bombs that have done nothing but put an even larger black eye on the program. I like basketball and would like to get more supportive of the team, but I just can't. This is a tough time to be part of MSU basketball.
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by Old Skool Cat » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:51 am
Man, could our men's basketball program be in any more of a shambles right now? Glad to see these two knuckleheads get suspended -- don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out of Bozeman. Hopefully this will be Huse's last season at MSU. You can't have that many guys leave/suspended during a tenure and not at some point think that one of the reasons behind it is the head coach. Not to mention the pathetic on-court showing Huse's teams have had during his tenure. This ranks almost right along with Solmonson's decimation of the football program. It's gonna take years to get this thing back on track. The progress will be slow and agonizing at times, but MSU needs to start the rebuilding process. Do not renew Huse's contract and handle the problems of weeding these knuckleheads out the program. The school, the fans and the state of Montana deserve much better.
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by John K » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:35 am
GRZSLAYER wrote:wbtfg wrote:allcat wrote:I don't feel bad for Huse, I think that he is at the heart of this. All of these people leave, or do things that are classless. I think that the program does not seem to have any control.
I think Huse came to the end of his "honeymoon" a couple years ago and felt the pressure to start putting up more wins. Because of that, I think he's taken some chances on guys who have talent (though the W/L results may indicate otherwise), but maybe have some personal/academic baggage. The same thing happened to Mick Durham as well as Mike Kramer.
I was on the Huse bandwagon from Day 1, as I have a lot of respect for the guy, but I really think this will be his last year as the MSU head coach.
BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:mslacatfan wrote:I feel bad for Coach Huse, I have never heard of a coach that has had more players leave or dismissed from the team (for various reasons) over a couple year period. Will there even be enough players for a starting 5 this season? Should the Athletic Department just say Fuk it, and scrap the basketball program all together... its become an absolute joke.
You don't think that at the very least some of the players leaving might actually be Huse's fault? I wouldn't wanna play for the guy. I mean, obviously the Fall thing is not his fault. That's just the N-C-double Ass-holes being the N-C double Ass-holes. A lot of guys leaving seems like a pattern rather than the coach being a victim of circumstance.
I do wish that if he was going to recruit a criminal element, he'd at least recruit criminals who are better at basketball

I agree with both you guys. I am sick and tired of this and anyone who feels sorry for Huse needs to think about it. When I saw this the first thing I thought is can we finally get rid of Huse. What has he done for the program? Our play on the court hasn't improved. If anything it has steadly gotten worse. Now on top of it a large portion of the team, especially players from the last two classes have done nothing but leave, or get thrown off the team for off court issues. It would be one thing if the Cats were a .500 team, but steller model citizens, but lets face it this is the worst this program has been in a long time. Huse has nobody to blame but himself. Here's a question is Blunt still on the team, because if he is that is another head scrather for me. He should be sitting on the curb with the rest of them. This program will go nowhere if Huse doesn't leave. I am far more of a football supporter than I am of basketball, but I probably won't even go to a game this year. I would rather see a team rally around an assistant than deal with Huse. What good talent we get leaves because they can't stand him, or they are just ticking time bombs that have done nothing but put an even larger black eye on the program.
I like basketball and would like to get more supportive of the team, but I just can't. This is a tough time to be part of MSU basketball.
I think that statement sums things up for a lot of us. We shouldn't forget how much long term damage can be done to a program, by keeping a bad coach too long. The MSU basketball program is close to becoming as irrelevant as the football program had become by the end of the Solomonson era. And if you were suggesting that we should fire him now and get by with an interim coach for this season, I would be completely on board with that. You're also right in saying that Blount should no longer be on the team either, since by all accounts he was the actual instigator in the incident with Trammel. Fields cited a "lack of leadership" when he fired Kramer. I think that could easily be said about Huse as well.
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by bobcatbob » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:43 am
I agree. I used to be a huge basketball fan and attend most games. Now, if I go to one game a year that's a lot. Huse is a nice guy but when you look at results during his tenure he has not got it done on the court, in the classroom and in the community. Three strikes and your out. He has struck out!
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by Cat Grad » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:52 pm
I have relatives and former co-workers mocking and ripping me because of the place to our west in the national news; same individuals who made the sorry connection when I corrected them with being from MSU with this type of statement: "Oh that's right, you're from the school where a former basketball player killed another drug dealer so your administration fired the football coach because of a crisis in leadership. Great logic you display out there."
Then I get to read another thread where the armchair quarterbacks are badmouthing the kids on the team instead of the big people upset about being in one of the most sought after vacation destinations in the world...when does practice start?
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by ilovethecats » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:43 pm
nope. us "armchair qb's" are badmouthing the hoops program. this includes a coach who can't get it done. and kids willing to sacrifice scholarship dollars to break into cars and steal merchandise. not sure what you're looking for here. we're not happy with the program ON the floor.....and now we're not happy with the program OFF the floor.
not sure what the problem is with fans being frustrated with hoops as a whole right now?

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by mslacatfan » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:13 pm
John K wrote:BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:mslacatfan wrote:I feel bad for Coach Huse, I have never heard of a coach that has had more players leave or dismissed from the team (for various reasons) over a couple year period. Will there even be enough players for a starting 5 this season? Should the Athletic Department just say Fuk it, and scrap the basketball program all together... its become an absolute joke.
You don't think that at the very least some of the players leaving might actually be Huse's fault? I wouldn't wanna play for the guy. I mean, obviously the Fall thing is not his fault. That's just the N-C-double Ass-holes being the N-C double Ass-holes. A lot of guys leaving seems like a pattern rather than the coach being a victim of circumstance.
I do wish that if he was going to recruit a criminal element, he'd at least recruit criminals who are better at basketball

I agree. I don't think Huse has just been the victim of "dumb luck", with so many players leaving the program. If that happened during one off-season, then maybe you could say that was bad luck, but not when it happens year after year after year. I almost hope for us to have a very bad season this year, which would make it very difficult for Fields to justify keeping Huse. The sooner he's gone, the sooner we can begin the process of starting over with a new coaching staff. I thought he was a good choice at the time he was hired, but he clearly hasn't gotten the job done, and it's time to move on.
yeah.... I guess I can't disagree with you guys.
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by DicTater » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:56 am
I agree Huse needs to go, but you can't blame him for Tre and Budinich. They both had been in the program for 3 years and there was no indication, to my knowledge, that either had been in trouble in high school or since being here. Sometimes kids do incredibly stupid things that are totally unforeseeable. We'll struggle for one more year with Huse and then, hopefully, bring in someone with some energy and a coherent plan.
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by allcat » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:28 am
DicTater wrote:I agree Huse needs to go, but you can't blame him for Tre and Budinich. They both had been in the program for 3 years and there was no indication, to my knowledge, that either had been in trouble in high school or since being here. Sometimes kids do incredibly stupid things that are totally unforeseeable. We'll struggle for one more year with Huse and then, hopefully, bring in someone with some energy and a coherent plan.
I do see him as partially responsible, a problem with one guy, then no. But the whole basketball program has a problem.
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by bobcat99 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:33 am
ilovethecats wrote:nope. us "armchair qb's" are badmouthing the hoops program. this includes a coach who can't get it done. and kids willing to sacrifice scholarship dollars to break into cars and steal merchandise. not sure what you're looking for here. we're not happy with the program ON the floor.....and now we're not happy with the program OFF the floor.
not sure what the problem is with fans being frustrated with hoops as a whole right now?

Nope. You're a bad fan. You didn't wake up at 4 am and post this, you have no work ethic and it's very obvious you don't want to get better. SUPPORT THE SCHOOL AT ALL TIMES!
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by John K » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:40 am
allcat wrote:DicTater wrote:I agree Huse needs to go, but you can't blame him for Tre and Budinich. They both had been in the program for 3 years and there was no indication, to my knowledge, that either had been in trouble in high school or since being here. Sometimes kids do incredibly stupid things that are totally unforeseeable. We'll struggle for one more year with Huse and then, hopefully, bring in someone with some energy and a coherent plan.
I do see him as partially responsible, a problem with one guy, then no. But the whole basketball program has a problem.
And don't forget Blount's altercation with Trammel last winter. That makes 3 players who have gotten into trouble in the past 6 months, which represents 20-25% of the total number of players in the program. Can you imagine the outrage among Bobcat fans if 20-25% of the players in the football program got into trouble with the law within a span of 6 months?
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by BLACKnBLUEnGOLD » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:55 pm
It looks like the Cats won't be out-rebounding anyone or scoring much in the paint, is what it looks like

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by John K » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:02 pm
BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
It looks like the Cats won't be out-rebounding anyone or scoring much in the paint, is what it looks like

In other words, it won't be that much different than previous years.