michael irvin

Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:48 pm

Ponycat wrote:For it to be paraphernalia there has to be some signe that it was used for drug use. A pipe from the Grateful shed is not illegal unless it has residue on it. Same with a light bulb. It's not illegal to own light bulbs but if there is a hole in it with burn marks and residue, it becomes parphernalia, which is usually only used for a plea agreement (it gets dropped if they plead guilty) because residue of Meth of Crack cocaine is a felony.

Of course this isn't always the case but there has to be proof the paraphernailia was used for drugs. IF there wasn't residue Mr. Irvin would not have been charge.

Thank you for that clarification. Articles don't always include the details that there is residue involved. Knowing that, I feel a lot better about the way those laws work.

I guess I can quit sneaking all of my light bulbs out to the dumpster now.

HelenaCat95 · Post by **HelenaCat95** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:53 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
Ponycat wrote:For it to be paraphernalia there has to be some signe that it was used for drug use. A pipe from the Grateful shed is not illegal unless it has residue on it. Same with a light bulb. It's not illegal to own light bulbs but if there is a hole in it with burn marks and residue, it becomes parphernalia, which is usually only used for a plea agreement (it gets dropped if they plead guilty) because residue of Meth of Crack cocaine is a felony.

Of course this isn't always the case but there has to be proof the paraphernailia was used for drugs. IF there wasn't residue Mr. Irvin would not have been charge.
Thank you for that clarification. Articles don't always include the details that there is residue involved. Knowing that, I feel a lot better about the way those laws work.

I guess I can quit sneaking all of my light bulbs out to the dumpster now.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:10 pm

Speaking of paraphernalia did anyone else hear of a bunch on Hemp stores int he state getting busted for selling paraphernalia?

I heard that plain clothed agents went in and bought pipes and bongs then asked the clerks how to use them. SOmehow the clerk showed them and used the correct words (whatever they were, the $hi+, pot, drugs,???) and they got bused.

Entrapment ain't what it used to be.

I'll try to get the whole story, and it may just be a rumor, but was wondering if anyone else heard this.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:11 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote: I guess I can quit sneaking all of my light bulbs out to the dumpster now.

Light bulbs are OK but be careful of SPOONS.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:13 pm

Perhaps the ACLU will defend the clerks?

That sounds like a situation right out of the Kevin Smith version of Clerks.

Ponycat · Post by **Ponycat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:16 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:Perhaps the ACLU will defend the clerks?

That sounds like a situation right out of the Kevin Smith version of Clerks.

I was thinking the same thing...on both

Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:19 pm

Ponycat wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:Perhaps the ACLU will defend the clerks?

That sounds like a situation right out of the Kevin Smith version of Clerks.
I was thinking the same thing...on both

Great minds ... or something like that.

info197176 · Post by **info197176** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:20 pm

"Honest, it's my friends pipe, I don't know how it got there!" If I've heard that excuse once I've heard it 100 times, but from junior high kids mostly...

HelenaCat95 · Post by **HelenaCat95** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:28 pm

info197176 wrote:"Honest, it's my friends pipe, I don't know how it got there!" If I've heard that excuse once I've heard it 100 times, but from junior high kids mostly...

I shouldn't even know enough to make this reference, but.....
Info, funny that your post came in at 4:20

Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:30 pm

HelenaCat95 wrote:
info197176 wrote:"Honest, it's my friends pipe, I don't know how it got there!" If I've heard that excuse once I've heard it 100 times, but from junior high kids mostly...
I shouldn't even know enough to make this reference, but.....
Info, funny that your post came in at 4:20

I think everybody who understands that comment is guilty of something. I can't prove nothin', but I know your guilty of somethin'.

HelenaCat95 · Post by **HelenaCat95** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:32 pm

BAC,
You must be my "brother".........of a different mother.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:36 pm

True.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:42 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:
info197176 wrote:"Honest, it's my friends pipe, I don't know how it got there!" If I've heard that excuse once I've heard it 100 times, but from junior high kids mostly...
I shouldn't even know enough to make this reference, but.....
Info, funny that your post came in at 4:20

I think everybody who understands that comment is guilty of something. I can't prove nothin', but I know your guilty of somethin'.

i dont understand...

info197176 · Post by **info197176** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:46 pm

Funny you should say that...I noticed a little girl yesterday with one of those "message" belts, i.e. it has a buckle with a programmable scrolling message board..on that message board?? "4:20"