Uh-huh, yeah, sure, right.......

[iaafan]

''We're a high school-based recruiting operation. If you look at the defensive tackles we've had the last couple years - (Jonny) Varona, (Blake) Horgan, Cahill, Saenz - they were all here as freshmen. A lot of them played as young guys.

''The JC route is a quick fix, but it's not necessarily the best route to go. You do it when you absolutely have to."

The Griz, 29-9 in three seasons under Hauck, aren't at that point.

"Not even close," Hauck said.

Hmm, Chambers, Swogger, UL running back. Not even close? Absolutely have to?

[HelenaCat95]

Craig Ochs
Justin Green
Eric Allen
Rodamer
Washington

[catsblow]

I realize that reading comprehension is not a strong point for many cat fans, but

'The JC route

would generally refer to a Junior College. Last time I checked, the University of Colorado, Notre Dame, University of Washington, Oklahoma State, Washington State, and University of Louisville were all 4 year institutions. Justin Green is the only player listed above to come from a JC and he initially attended a 4 year school.

Additionally Hauck is talking specifically about DTs.

We're a high school-based recruiting operation. If you look at the defensive tackles

Exactly zero of the players you two have listed are DTs, so what's your point?

[GrizinWashington]

When you can't find something negative to say about a program, take something completely out of context and make it sound negative. Solid effort!

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

I realize that reading comprehension is not a strong point for many cat fans, but

'The JC route

would generally refer to a Junior College. Last time I checked, the University of Colorado, Notre Dame, University of Washington, Oklahoma State, Washington State, and University of Louisville were all 4 year institutions. Justin Green is the only player listed above to come from a JC and he initially attended a 4 year school.

Additionally Hauck is talking specifically about DTs.

We're a high school-based recruiting operation. If you look at the defensive tackles

Exactly zero of the players you two have listed are DTs, so what's your point?

I guess you and your infinite idiocy must fail to realize that a TRANFER IS A TRANSFER!!

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

When you can't find something negative to say about a program, take something completely out of context and make it sound negative. Solid effort!

I think many of us have made our positions crystal clear about Swogger, long before he committed.

Bradshaw, big deal. I feel the same way about him as I do Rolovich here at MSU.

Chambers, who knows where he'll end up. He'll be a good get if he decides he wants to be on the field every play. I'd love to see him come to MSU.

Keep in mind since you missed the point, most fans on this board can't stand the coach. It's the program that is respected, not its fans or the coach. I would imagine the person who started this post was once again finding a flaw in the words of Beavis Hauck.

[SonomaCat]

It is true that Hauck selected his words carefully in that interview and did specifically note "JC." So we can't call him out for his wording. He's aware that JCs have a bit of a stigma with many people, whereas enough people have a I-A "Savior" complex when it comes to that set of transfers and don't mind them at all. And, in all fairness, there generally is a difference between a JC player and a I-A dropdown, both in terms of academics and in terms of risk. Not always, of course, but enough to be able to see some trends.

[BR GRIZ]

When you can't find something negative to say about a program, take something completely out of context and make it sound negative. Solid effort!

I think many of us have made our positions crystal clear about Swogger, long before he committed.

Bradshaw, big deal. I feel the same way about him as I do Rolovich here at MSU.

Chambers, who knows where he'll end up. He'll be a good get if he decides he wants to be on the field every play. I'd love to see him come to MSU.

Keep in mind since you missed the point, most fans on this board can't stand the coach. It's the program that is respected, not its fans or the coach. I would imagine the person who started this post was once again finding a flaw in the words of Beavis Hauck.

Since we're reinterpreting, I believe Lifeloyal meant to say that Iaa meant to say that Bobby meant to say whatever words will support our dislike of him.

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

When you can't find something negative to say about a program, take something completely out of context and make it sound negative. Solid effort!

I think many of us have made our positions crystal clear about Swogger, long before he committed.

Bradshaw, big deal. I feel the same way about him as I do Rolovich here at MSU.

Chambers, who knows where he'll end up. He'll be a good get if he decides he wants to be on the field every play. I'd love to see him come to MSU.

Keep in mind since you missed the point, most fans on this board can't stand the coach. It's the program that is respected, not its fans or the coach. I would imagine the person who started this post was once again finding a flaw in the words of Beavis Hauck.

Since we're reinterpreting, I believe Lifeloyal meant to say that Iaa meant to say that Bobby meant to say whatever words will support our dislike of him.

If you say so.......

You might want to archive a few threads on Beavis and you'll get an idea of what BN posters think of him.

[catsblow]

Since we're reinterpreting, I believe Lifeloyal meant to say that Iaa meant to say that Bobby meant to say whatever words will support our dislike of him.

You may be on to something. I think frat boy is finslly finding an outlet to express his affinity for things similar to himself.

Thankfully, there are rational posters such as Bay Area who recognize that there is a difference between JC transfers and others, that all transfers are not evil, and who does not purport that the cats have done without either. Thanks for a dash of reason.

I breathlessly await 1aafan's next post lauding a MSU JC transfer; it surely will not be long. But, let's remember, only transfers going to the Griz are bad. (Even if the MSU coach did prefer transfer Swogger to transfer Rolovich but did not succeed in getting choiuce #1).

[CelticCat]

If you got a bone to pick with fraternity members, me and a few other posters would be happy to oblige ya.

[CelticCat]

Since we're reinterpreting, I believe Lifeloyal meant to say that Iaa meant to say that Bobby meant to say whatever words will support our dislike of him.

You may be on to something. I think frat boy is finslly finding an outlet to express his affinity for things similar to himself.

Thankfully, there are rational posters such as Bay Area who recognize that there is a difference between JC transfers and others, that all transfers are not evil, and who does not purport that the cats have done without either. Thanks for a dash of reason.

I breathlessly await 1aafan's next post lauding a MSU JC transfer; it surely will not be long. But, let's remember, only transfers going to the Griz are bad. (Even if the MSU coach did prefer transfer Swogger to transfer Rolovich but did not succeed in getting choiuce #1).

You posts reak of disillusion and are completely void of logic and proof. You are taking a very small majority's opinion and applying to everyone Cat fan. I know all Griz fans aren't arrogant and condescending, but posters like you keep popping up. Weird.

[Cat-theotherwhitemeat]

If Bobby said in an interview "The Bobcats have a top notch program, one of the best in the nation"....

I imagine there would still be some that say, "yeah, but only oneof the best, not the best. And what does he mean by notch? The word NOT is in there. Just another put down of MSU by Hauck"

[SonomaCat]

(Even if the MSU coach did prefer transfer Swogger to transfer Rolovich but did not succeed in getting choiuce #1).

I don't think you have any evidence to support that assertion, and I have actually heard otherwise.

[Ponycat]

If Bobby said in an interview "The Bobcats have a top notch program, one of the best in the nation"....

I imagine there would still be some that say, "yeah, but only oneof the best, not the best. And what does he mean by notch? The word NOT is in there. Just another put down of MSU by Hauck"

He said that...I'll kill him.

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

Since we're reinterpreting, I believe Lifeloyal meant to say that Iaa meant to say that Bobby meant to say whatever words will support our dislike of him.

You may be on to something. I think frat boy is finslly finding an outlet to express his affinity for things similar to himself.

Thankfully, there are rational posters such as Bay Area who recognize that there is a difference between JC transfers and others, that all transfers are not evil, and who does not purport that the cats have done without either. Thanks for a dash of reason.

I breathlessly await 1aafan's next post lauding a MSU JC transfer; it surely will not be long. But, let's remember, only transfers going to the Griz are bad. (Even if the MSU coach did prefer transfer Swogger to transfer Rolovich but did not succeed in getting choiuce #1).

You can GFY catsblow.

To me a transfer is a transfer, regardless whether he's from a JC or a dropdown I-A. The purpose of a transfer is to fill a position immediately as it might indicate that the coaches don't have full confidence in the immediate abilities of the players who are already on the roster.

Where have you heard Cat fans hyping Rolovich you idiot? Many of us have rehashed our opinion on Swogger and the one year he can only give to a team (now the griz). The I-a dropdown out of UNLV is someone I look forward to as the Cats have had some decent I-A dropdown receivers in the past several years.

[Ponycat]

Swogger...Swwwwooooogger....He even sounds slow

[El_Gato]

From my perspective, a JC transfer to a I-AA school is someone who proved to be a solid player and is moving UP.

A DI transfer is someone who couldn't cut it at that level and is moving DOWN.

One suggests a player that has EARNED his way onto the field of a I-AA team while the other is a player that has yet to earn anything on a collegiate playing field.

The only exception to this, IMO, is at QB where it only takes ONE freshman or sophomore phenom to screw up another players chance to play.

At every other position on the field, a DI player who cannot earn at least a 2-deep spot on a roster is either a problem-child or simply isn't very good.

[SonomaCat]

From my perspective, a JC transfer to a I-AA school is someone who proved to be a solid player and is moving UP.

A DI transfer is someone who couldn't cut it at that level and is moving DOWN.

One suggests a player that has EARNED his way onto the field of a I-AA team while the other is a player that has yet to earn anything on a collegiate playing field.

The only exception to this, IMO, is at QB where it only takes ONE freshman or sophomore phenom to screw up another players chance to play.

At every other position on the field, a DI player who cannot earn at least a 2-deep spot on a roster is either a problem-child or simply isn't very good.

Yeah, that's the kind of things that go through my mind each time I hear of a I-A dropdown. In my mind, the question is always "What's the catch?"

On the other hand, JCs sometimes make me nervous as many of the most talented ones end up there due to academics, so I always hope that the JC guys are solid academically.

There are risks with both ... but the higher the risk, the higher the reward, so they say.

[UMclassof2002]

''We're a high school-based recruiting operation. If you look at the defensive tackles we've had the last couple years - (Jonny) Varona, (Blake) Horgan, Cahill, Saenz - they were all here as freshmen. A lot of them played as young guys.

''The JC route is a quick fix, but it's not necessarily the best route to go. You do it when you absolutely have to."

The Griz, 29-9 in three seasons under Hauck, aren't at that point.

"Not even close," Hauck said.

Hmm, Chambers, Swogger, UL running back. Not even close? Absolutely have to?

You basically got knocked the f uck out by catsblow in the third post in this thread.




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