NDSU continues winning by downing Idaho.........

WYOBISONMAN · Post by **WYOBISONMAN** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:59 am

Granted, Idaho stinks, but we beat them last night.

Post by **kmax** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:05 am

See, c'mon Fullerton, NDSU definately belongs in the Big Sky. Their fans are already making fun of Idaho, it's like they are our long lost soulmates!

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:56 pm

wow go Bison!

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:23 pm

WYOBISONMAN wrote:Granted, Idaho stinks, but we beat them last night.

Go Bison baby! I was watching the ticket on that last night and it was close all the way through (1-2 point max leads). They pulled it out at the end. Again, NDSU is a NO BRAINER on letting them in the Big Sky.

NavyBlue · Post by **NavyBlue** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:46 am

I posted this on egriz, and I would also like to post it here, I hope no one minds. It is regarding NDSU not getting into the Big Sky.

I will start by saying I am not a fan of Doug Fullerton and the way he has been "running" the Big Sky Conference. But the thing is DF may have wanted to add NDSU but it is the university presidents who VOTE on it. It is the fault of the conference presidents and not Doug Fullerton.

Doug Fullerton serves at the pleasure of the presidents of the Big Sky Conference schools, they collectively, are his boss.

UM, MSU, and others wanted to add NDSU and SDSU but Sac St. and Portland State did not, so appearantly the votes were not there. Again, I am no fan of Fullerton, I just don't think all this can be pinned on Fullerton, the blame falls more on the short-sighted presidents at NAU, Sac and Portland. UM and MSU, are basically the standard bearers of the Big Sky Conference, and they were not happy, from what I understand about the last round of expansion they wanted the two Dakota States.

Part of the problem UM (and MSU) have is that with thier "1-AA or nothing" attitude is they have no leverage with those other schools (NAU, Sac, PSU) they think there is no danger that UM and MSU will ever leave because of thier loyalty to 1-AA. Those schools are not afraid that if they don't give the Montana schools there way, that the Montana schools might leave, since UM has slammed the door on the WAC's offers. If UM said "if we don't get our way, we might just join the WAC", I gaurantee PSU and Sac would fall in line immediatly, if not sooner.

If UM were to leave the rest of the conference would be in a world of hurt, and I am sure that most people would think that MSU would follow at that point as soon as they could. Instead of UM publically saying "we will NEVER be 1-a", they should say "we are always looking at all our options", even if they never really plan on going 1-A. A little leverage would go a long way in these situations.

If UM and MSU's desires continue to be snubbed when it comes to important conference issues, like expansion I wouldn't be surprised if that was another thing that might make them consider the WAC.

Swilly3224 · Post by **Swilly3224** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:54 pm

kmax wrote:See, c'mon Fullerton, NDSU definately belongs in the Big Sky. Their fans are already making fun of Idaho, it's like they are our long lost soulmates!

lol

theblackgecko · Post by **theblackgecko** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:14 pm

NavyBlue wrote:I posted this on egriz, and I would also like to post it here, I hope no one minds. It is regarding NDSU not getting into the Big Sky.

I will start by saying I am not a fan of Doug Fullerton and the way he has been "running" the Big Sky Conference. But the thing is DF may have wanted to add NDSU but it is the university presidents who VOTE on it. It is the fault of the conference presidents and not Doug Fullerton.

Doug Fullerton serves at the pleasure of the presidents of the Big Sky Conference schools, they collectively, are his boss.

UM, MSU, and others wanted to add NDSU and SDSU but Sac St. and Portland State did not, so appearantly the votes were not there. Again, I am no fan of Fullerton, I just don't think all this can be pinned on Fullerton, the blame falls more on the short-sighted presidents at NAU, Sac and Portland. UM and MSU, are basically the standard bearers of the Big Sky Conference, and they were not happy, from what I understand about the last round of expansion they wanted the two Dakota States.

Part of the problem UM (and MSU) have is that with thier "1-AA or nothing" attitude is they have no leverage with those other schools (NAU, Sac, PSU) they think there is no danger that UM and MSU will ever leave because of thier loyalty to 1-AA. Those schools are not afraid that if they don't give the Montana schools there way, that the Montana schools might leave, since UM has slammed the door on the WAC's offers. If UM said "if we don't get our way, we might just join the WAC", I gaurantee PSU and Sac would fall in line immediatly, if not sooner.

If UM were to leave the rest of the conference would be in a world of hurt, and I am sure that most people would think that MSU would follow at that point as soon as they could. Instead of UM publically saying "we will NEVER be 1-a", they should say "we are always looking at all our options", even if they never really plan on going 1-A. A little leverage would go a long way in these situations.

If UM and MSU's desires continue to be snubbed when it comes to important conference issues, like expansion I wouldn't be surprised if that was another thing that might make them consider the WAC.

Good point. I still say the UNC addition will drive Montana to the WAC. Montana's (and Montana State's) football games are too valuable to be playing in Greely every two years. While Sac and Portland State are happy to have one fewer game to schedule, the Montana schools need better.

Cat Grad · Post by **Cat Grad** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:47 pm

Wonder why we've only got nine games scheduled so far

NDSUbison · Post by **NDSUbison** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:34 am

kmax wrote:See, c'mon Fullerton, NDSU definately belongs in the Big Sky. Their fans are already making fun of Idaho, it's like they are our long lost soulmates!

I don't know if Fullerton is the problem, here is what sports anchor Steve Hallstrom had to say after his talk with the commish.

Big Sky vibe

Spoke to Big Sky commish Doug Fullerton today. If I had any doubt about where he stands on NDSU (which I guess I didn't) I don't any more.

I don't want to overstate this, but I have a clear understanding that he wants NDSU in his conference. I've heard him say before that his job is to get the presidents to see the strengths of NDSU in a 12 team league, and he repeated that today.

He also said that he's aware that NDSU has touched base with some people in the MidCon and he said that if his presidents feel that NDSU will always be out there as an expansion option that they might be wrong someday. The RPI of the Big Sky is a big issue out there right now, and with both NDSU teams ranked in the mid 100's this season (and having been a little higher at times), they can bring some value to a conference in the near future.

I'd hardly suggest that a bidding war for NDSU is about to ensue, but count the Big Sky boss as one who believes NDSU's value is on the rise.

http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:36 am

NDSUbison wrote:
kmax wrote:See, c'mon Fullerton, NDSU definately belongs in the Big Sky. Their fans are already making fun of Idaho, it's like they are our long lost soulmates!
I don't know if Fullerton is the problem, here is what sports anchor Steve Hallstrom had to say after his talk with the commish.

Big Sky vibe

Spoke to Big Sky commish Doug Fullerton today. If I had any doubt about where he stands on NDSU (which I guess I didn't) I don't any more.

I don't want to overstate this, but I have a clear understanding that he wants NDSU in his conference. I've heard him say before that his job is to get the presidents to see the strengths of NDSU in a 12 team league, and he repeated that today.

He also said that he's aware that NDSU has touched base with some people in the MidCon and he said that if his presidents feel that NDSU will always be out there as an expansion option that they might be wrong someday. The RPI of the Big Sky is a big issue out there right now, and with both NDSU teams ranked in the mid 100's this season (and having been a little higher at times), they can bring some value to a conference in the near future.

I'd hardly suggest that a bidding war for NDSU is about to ensue, but count the Big Sky boss as one who believes NDSU's value is on the rise.

http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/

NDSU continues winning by downing Idaho.........

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