Why did MSU miss the football playoffs last year

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Sun May 28, 2006 5:07 pm

Well it comes up enough- lets hear why.

I really want to know what cat fans think.

whitetrashgriz · Post by **whitetrashgriz** » Sun May 28, 2006 8:04 pm

portland state hands down. but damn that poly loss hurt too. we were just never in that one. oh well, new season.

crazycat · Post by **crazycat** » Sun May 28, 2006 8:44 pm

Pretty weak question (no smack). I said 'other' because anything but the UM money was equally damaging. MSU would've been in if they had beat PSU, EW or CP; of if they had played a D2 and won. If D2 win instead of OSU loss and win over UM, both would be 8-3 and I'm guessing both in POs.

You're probably just posing this question to remind everyone that UM made the POs and MSU didn't. I think this 'no playoffs-thing' started the second MSU had UM beat last year. I admit it's a good way to mask getting beat, but it's tired.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:39 pm

crazycat wrote:You're probably just posing this question to remind everyone that UM made the POs and MSU didn't. I think this 'no playoffs-thing' started the second MSU had UM beat last year. I admit it's a good way to mask getting beat, but it's tired.

You are wrong.

bozbobcat · Post by **bozbobcat** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:47 pm

The loss to Portland State did us in last year. The loss to Cal Poly hurt in a head-to-head at-large choice, but a win at PSU would have taken the Cats conference record to 6-1 and would cause us to win the conference outright. A win at EWU would have done the same, but it didn't happen. If the Cats were to have won at OSU, which they almost did, that would have been a for-sure lock. But still, I think the PSU loss was the biggest one.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Sun May 28, 2006 10:15 pm

bozbobcat wrote:The loss to Portland State did us in last year. The loss to Cal Poly hurt in a head-to-head at-large choice, but a win at PSU would have taken the Cats conference record to 6-1 and would cause us to win the conference outright. A win at EWU would have done the same, but it didn't happen. If the Cats were to have won at OSU, which they almost did, that would have been a for-sure lock. But still, I think the PSU loss was the biggest one.

I agree, although ANY win in the 4 L's would have probably got the cats in, the Portland State one was a killer. Esp Since the comittee looked at the sched and saw UM and EWU blast PSU.

PDXKat · Post by **PDXKat** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:30 am

Go Scats Go wrote:
bozbobcat wrote:The loss to Portland State did us in last year. The loss to Cal Poly hurt in a head-to-head at-large choice, but a win at PSU would have taken the Cats conference record to 6-1 and would cause us to win the conference outright. A win at EWU would have done the same, but it didn't happen. If the Cats were to have won at OSU, which they almost did, that would have been a for-sure lock. But still, I think the PSU loss was the biggest one.
I agree, although ANY win in the 4 L's would have probably got the cats in, the Portland State one was a killer. Esp Since the comittee looked at the sched and saw UM and EWU blast PSU.

Agreed. The PSU game was really the only game the defense took off. One last stop is all we needed............

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:32 am

No question it was PSU. The EWU & CP losses were routs, so we didn't deserve W's on those 2. PSU was a game we could have & should have won. Our offense carried the day but defensively, that was our low point of the season. Had we played the Vikes before or after the Griz, I suspect we would have won comfortably as our D-injuries were not as severe and the D played much better down the stretch (other than losing track of Meyer for most of the EWU game).

BUT, injuries and "off-games" are part of football and are not a valid excuse; we should STILL have managed to beat PSU when we played them. That win would have definitely gotten the Cats in the post-season and with an 8-2 (IAA) record and 6 home sellouts, we probably would have all been in Bozeman the Saturday after Thanksgiving, possibly even winning a playoff game while the Griz got spanked by CP.

I know it's shoulda/coulda/woulda but the off-season here & on egriz would certainly have looked a lot different had we managed just one less fumble & one more point vs PSU...

bobcatgrad2005 · Post by **bobcatgrad2005** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:22 pm

I voted for the Eastern game. At that point, they knew what was on the line, knew what they had to do, and controlled their own destiny. And apparently failed to get on the bus.

The PSU thing was a killer, but in both games the go to guy, Mr. Lulay, bumbled some things. That fumble in the PSU game was due to his failure to check off the guy that tackled him. And he'll tell you that, as he has told me that.

Bummer dude, but I'm over rehashing last year's season! Lets look forward to an awesome year of tailgating and wins in Bobcat Stadium!

1BadBobcat · Post by **1BadBobcat** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:20 pm

Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.

couloir41 · Post by **couloir41** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:36 pm

here's a revelation for everyone...we did not go to the playoffs because we lost too many games...

and it was a year ago...and now the coup de gras...really...who cares besides scat for brains and silly...

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:56 pm

couloir41 wrote:here's a revelation for everyone...we did not go to the playoffs because we lost too many games...

and it was a year ago...and now the coup de gras...really...who cares besides scat for brains and silly...

Dude lighten up- your calling names really shows how classless you are. Im keeping it very civil- I wish you would try to do the same...

But thats probably a lot to ask.

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:33 pm

1BadBobcat wrote:Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.

I didn't bother to vote because it flat ass doesn't make any difference- it was last year. Those who wish to dwell on the past are free to do so........, as for me..........., bring 'em on!!

crazycat · Post by **crazycat** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:16 am

1BadBobcat wrote:Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.

It's obvious who cares. As stated this is probably GSG's way of getting his jollies. Ho-hum. Fortunately most Griz fans aren't like this. There are a few that couldn't wait to point out that MSU didn't make the playoffs, because that was all they had on us last year. If MSU had made the playoffs, then it would've been something else. Like, "UM got a home game and MSU didn't" with all the digs about how bigger facility, better fans get home playoff games. Blah, blah, blah. Speaking of things that come up enough. It's the same old, tired, worn out blather with a slightly different twist.

whitetrashgriz · Post by **whitetrashgriz** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:01 am

crazycat wrote:
1BadBobcat wrote:Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.
It's obvious who cares. As stated this is probably GSG's way of getting his jollies. Ho-hum. Fortunately most Griz fans aren't like this. There are a few that couldn't wait to point out that MSU didn't make the playoffs, because that was all they had on us last year. If MSU had made the playoffs, then it would've been something else. Like, "UM got a home game and MSU didn't" with all the digs about how bigger facility, better fans get home playoff games. Blah, blah, blah. Speaking of things that come up enough. It's the same old, tired, worn out blather with a slightly different twist.

every now and then, as much as i hate too, but i have to stick up for a griz...even if it's scats and i think he could try harder not to always be an ass. but, you guys wanna know who cares? we do! otherwise there would be no talk of 16-6. and there would be absolutly no playoff talk from last year. every day you can read a post from a cat fan trying to justify why the cats didn't get in and the griz did. then a griz asks a question, and all of a sudden no bobcat fan cares about last year. kinda funny. cats didn't get in because we lost too many games. griz got in. cats beat the griz. great. maybe nect year we'll beat the griz AND get in the playoffs. i'm with scats on this one. we obviously care otherwise we would never use the term 16-6, or 3 of 4! unless we start getting selective memory like our griz friends. p.s. - scats i've had your back twice now, repay me by not always intentionally trying to be a dick...it gets tired. GO CATS!

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:55 am

whitetrashgriz wrote:
crazycat wrote:
1BadBobcat wrote:Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.
It's obvious who cares. As stated this is probably GSG's way of getting his jollies. Ho-hum. Fortunately most Griz fans aren't like this. There are a few that couldn't wait to point out that MSU didn't make the playoffs, because that was all they had on us last year. If MSU had made the playoffs, then it would've been something else. Like, "UM got a home game and MSU didn't" with all the digs about how bigger facility, better fans get home playoff games. Blah, blah, blah. Speaking of things that come up enough. It's the same old, tired, worn out blather with a slightly different twist.
every now and then, as much as i hate too, but i have to stick up for a griz...even if it's scats and i think he could try harder not to always be an ass. but, you guys wanna know who cares? we do! otherwise there would be no talk of 16-6. and there would be absolutly no playoff talk from last year. every day you can read a post from a cat fan trying to justify why the cats didn't get in and the griz did. then a griz asks a question, and all of a sudden no bobcat fan cares about last year. kinda funny. cats didn't get in because we lost too many games. griz got in. cats beat the griz. great. maybe nect year we'll beat the griz AND get in the playoffs. i'm with scats on this one. we obviously care otherwise we would never use the term 16-6, or 3 of 4! unless we start getting selective memory like our griz friends. p.s. - scats i've had your back twice now, repay me by not always intentionally trying to be a dick...it gets tired. GO CATS!

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1BadBobcat · Post by **1BadBobcat** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:32 am

whitetrashgriz wrote:
crazycat wrote:
1BadBobcat wrote:Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.
It's obvious who cares. As stated this is probably GSG's way of getting his jollies. Ho-hum. Fortunately most Griz fans aren't like this. There are a few that couldn't wait to point out that MSU didn't make the playoffs, because that was all they had on us last year. If MSU had made the playoffs, then it would've been something else. Like, "UM got a home game and MSU didn't" with all the digs about how bigger facility, better fans get home playoff games. Blah, blah, blah. Speaking of things that come up enough. It's the same old, tired, worn out blather with a slightly different twist.
every now and then, as much as i hate too, but i have to stick up for a griz...even if it's scats and i think he could try harder not to always be an ass. but, you guys wanna know who cares? we do! otherwise there would be no talk of 16-6. and there would be absolutly no playoff talk from last year. every day you can read a post from a cat fan trying to justify why the cats didn't get in and the griz did. then a griz asks a question, and all of a sudden no bobcat fan cares about last year. kinda funny. cats didn't get in because we lost too many games. griz got in. cats beat the griz. great. maybe nect year we'll beat the griz AND get in the playoffs. i'm with scats on this one. we obviously care otherwise we would never use the term 16-6, or 3 of 4! unless we start getting selective memory like our griz friends. p.s. - scats i've had your back twice now, repay me by not always intentionally trying to be a dick...it gets tired. GO CATS!

I really, truly care about Bobcat football. And it pains me to have the season we did last year and not make it to the playoffs. But that was last November! I can see discussing it for a few weeks or a couple of months. But last year's season was over 6 months ago! Time to move on and give this year's team and players the attention they deserve. Also, I am gonna have to go out on a limb and the Griz fans some props on their playoff talk. We Cat fans are so focused on 16-6 they we can't see the bigger picture. Yeah, 20 years ago the highlight of either team was to beat the cross-state rival. But 1-AA has become much bigger than that now and gets far more publicity nationwide. The goal is no longer to just have a good record and beat your arch-enemy. It's to make a run in the playoffs and take a shot at at title. Man, I love beating the the Griz and I did take more than my fair share of crap the past 20 years while they were beating our tails. But I am not gonna dwell on 16-6 and call it a successful year. We had the team last year to go into the playoffs and it didn't happen. Major disappointment. Our program has grown to a level where beating the Griz should no longer make our year, but it should just be another notch in the holster on our way to the national title.

1BadBobcat · Post by **1BadBobcat** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:36 am

PS If you think it sounds good to shout out "16-6" or "3 out of 4" to Griz fans, just think of how good it will be to say "MSU Bobcats - 2006 National Champs!" Keep your eyes on the prize, baby!

LTown Cat · Post by **LTown Cat** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:48 am

The Portland State game cost us the playoffs--no doubt about it. If Lulay doesn't fumble it probably would have been the Cats kicking the game winning field goal and we would have been playoff bound.

Go Scats Go · Post by **Go Scats Go** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:14 am

1BadBobcat wrote:
whitetrashgriz wrote:
crazycat wrote:
1BadBobcat wrote:Who cares? The only to say is that we didn't make it and to move on. It does no good dwelling on the past. This a new season with new promises and a pretty good team we will put on the field. I think it may be one of the best chances we've had under Kramer to make some noise in the playoffs. It's amazing that Griz fans have to resort to pointing out Bobcat failures to make their own pathetic season look better.
It's obvious who cares. As stated this is probably GSG's way of getting his jollies. Ho-hum. Fortunately most Griz fans aren't like this. There are a few that couldn't wait to point out that MSU didn't make the playoffs, because that was all they had on us last year. If MSU had made the playoffs, then it would've been something else. Like, "UM got a home game and MSU didn't" with all the digs about how bigger facility, better fans get home playoff games. Blah, blah, blah. Speaking of things that come up enough. It's the same old, tired, worn out blather with a slightly different twist.
every now and then, as much as i hate too, but i have to stick up for a griz...even if it's scats and i think he could try harder not to always be an ass. but, you guys wanna know who cares? we do! otherwise there would be no talk of 16-6. and there would be absolutely no playoff talk from last year. every day you can read a post from a cat fan trying to justify why the cats didn't get in and the griz did. then a griz asks a question, and all of a sudden no bobcat fan cares about last year. kinda funny. cats didn't get in because we lost too many games. griz got in. cats beat the griz. great. maybe nect year we'll beat the griz AND get in the playoffs. i'm with scats on this one. we obviously care otherwise we would never use the term 16-6, or 3 of 4! unless we start getting selective memory like our griz friends. p.s. - scats I've had your back twice now, repay me by not always intentionally trying to be a dick...it gets tired. GO CATS!
I really, truly care about Bobcat football. And it pains me to have the season we did last year and not make it to the playoffs. But that was last November! I can see discussing it for a few weeks or a couple of months. But last year's season was over 6 months ago! Time to move on and give this year's team and players the attention they deserve. Also, I am gonna have to go out on a limb and the Griz fans some props on their playoff talk. We Cat fans are so focused on 16-6 they we can't see the bigger picture. Yeah, 20 years ago the highlight of either team was to beat the cross-state rival. But 1-AA has become much bigger than that now and gets far more publicity nationwide. The goal is no longer to just have a good record and beat your arch-enemy. It's to make a run in the playoffs and take a shot at at title. Man, I love beating the the Griz and I did take more than my fair share of crap the past 20 years while they were beating our tails. But I am not gonna dwell on 16-6 and call it a successful year. We had the team last year to go into the playoffs and it didn't happen. Major disappointment. Our program has grown to a level where beating the Griz should no longer make our year, but it should just be another notch in the holster on our way to the national title.

I could not agree more. One win does not make a season. I am old enough to remember the 70's and 80's when neither team (usually) or at least the Griz only cared about winning one game. It really was not very much fun being a fan. It was so bad I sometimes wondered why the Griz played the other 9 or 10 games- Who cared anyways.

Things change as does time. The Griz grew into a dynasty and the cats floundered. To be honest with you beating the cats became boring. The rivalry needed what has happened in the last 4 year to occur. Now both teams have a legit chance at the playoffs, and to my knowledge that has never been true before last year.

How awesome would it be on the third week of Dec. to see the Griz play the Cats for the NC. The state of Montana would completely shut down. I know it probably wont happen- but it would be very cool.

I cant speak for all Griz fans but I will for myself.
#1 I HATE TO LOSE TO MSU!!!
#2 If MSU went 0-11 that's fine with me.
#3 I love to give cat fans a bad time.
#4 I think Bozeman is a hole

But with all that being said, I will pull for the kitties WHEN they play a playoff game. After the regular season I hope the cats do well. The only exception is if its a playoff game against the Griz and then refer to the list of 4 above.

Why did MSU miss the football playoffs last year

Which is the biggest reason?

Why did MSU miss the football playoffs last year