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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Common Cat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm

People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.


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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:22 pm

Belo’s 3rd foul he didn’t touch Moody.



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by catscat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:24 pm

Refs seem to think that if he falls down, he got fouled. Must have a good drama dept at um.


Can't make up my mind as to which is better - 55-21 or 48-14, but 34-11 will do.

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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Desert_Bobcat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm

Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by technoCat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:32 pm

catscat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:24 pm
Refs seem to think that if he falls down, he got fouled. Must have a good drama dept at um.
This has been my problem for a while in the NCAA. Just drive and fall down and you'll get a foul every time.


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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by lv2hoop » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:34 pm

Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.
Wins and losses guys, wins and losses. Since Danny has taken over the program, look at our record. Say what you want about the conference, but it ain't that bad. It's middle of the pack and whoever makes it to the tourney (likely MSU or EWU) will get a 13-14 seed and see what happens.

As far as style of play, Sprinks has a system and it produces victories. Go Cats!!!



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by catscat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 pm

Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.
Wouldn't have to if the ball came back outside. Most of the time though, the bigs try to work for a shot.


Can't make up my mind as to which is better - 55-21 or 48-14, but 34-11 will do.

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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Desert_Bobcat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:41 pm

catscat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.
Wouldn't have to if the ball came back outside. Most of the time though, the bigs try to work for a shot.
That's part of the issue... I'm all for getting to your spot and making shots but you gain more opportunities to score if you're a threat to kick as well as to shoot. Also would help eliminate some of the double-teams down low



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by lv2hoop » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm

Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:41 pm
catscat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.
Wouldn't have to if the ball came back outside. Most of the time though, the bigs try to work for a shot.
That's part of the issue... I'm all for getting to your spot and making shots but you gain more opportunities to score if you're a threat to kick as well as to shoot. Also would help eliminate some of the double-teams down low
It's about getting an inside game established and staying committed to it. If you look around the BSC, we are arguably the only team that stays the course of utilizing their bigs. It's a formula that has always stood the test of time. Own the paint, you win the game.



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Desert_Bobcat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:49 pm

lv2hoop wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:34 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.
Wins and losses guys, wins and losses. Since Danny has taken over the program, look at our record. Say what you want about the conference, but it ain't that bad. It's middle of the pack and whoever makes it to the tourney (likely MSU or EWU) will get a 13-14 seed and see what happens.

As far as style of play, Sprinks has a system and it produces victories. Go Cats!!!
This is nowhere close to being bash post or slighting Coach Sprinkle and what he's done so far. W's are the most important thing at the end of the day and he's produced a lot of those since taking over!
As for the conference, I think you're seeing talent of teams coming together more than dropping off. Say what you want about NAU, ISU, and Idaho, they're dangerous teams and we've seen what can happen when you don't have your best stuff against them.
I'm saying that this team can and SHOULD be much better than the product we've seen so far this season. If this team plays to their potential every night they don't lose to GCU, Middle Tennessee, Idaho, and Weber St. this year.



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by lv2hoop » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:58 pm

Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:49 pm
lv2hoop wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:34 pm
Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:29 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
There is a lot of truth to this, sadly. This team could be better if they played to the strength of their roster. IMO this roster is built to move the ball quickly around the 3-point line, running lots of pick and roll/pop schemes and simple motion concepts. They play their best ball in a system like this and it seems like in the biggest games coaches and players want to rely too much on forcing the ball into Belo and Great which inherently kills the ball movement.
Wins and losses guys, wins and losses. Since Danny has taken over the program, look at our record. Say what you want about the conference, but it ain't that bad. It's middle of the pack and whoever makes it to the tourney (likely MSU or EWU) will get a 13-14 seed and see what happens.

As far as style of play, Sprinks has a system and it produces victories. Go Cats!!!
This is nowhere close to being bash post or slighting Coach Sprinkle and what he's done so far. W's are the most important thing at the end of the day and he's produced a lot of those since taking over!
As for the conference, I think you're seeing talent of teams coming together more than dropping off. Say what you want about NAU, ISU, and Idaho, they're dangerous teams and we've seen what can happen when you don't have your best stuff against them.
I'm saying that this team can and SHOULD be much better than the product we've seen so far this season. If this team plays to their potential every night they don't lose to GCU, Middle Tennessee, Idaho, and Weber St. this year.
If we can hang on tonight, we go to 20-9 and 12-3 in the league. With two more wins likely next weekend. From there, who knows? And as far as the games we've lost this season.....well, those games happen.

I'd much rather be playing winning basketball and cruising into March playing like this. Do we have weakness? Of course. When I look at what Sprinkle and his staff have built in 4 years, it's impressive. Here's another tidbit to consider. Since Sprinkle has taken the program, can you think of a big game that his team didn't perform well?



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Common Cat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:20 pm

Much better shooting the second half. Looks like we got tired in our defense. We won and completed the year sweep! Well done!


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Post by Aunty-Bobcat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:28 pm

Look at the stats. Why not play some of the bench players who come in score, play D well, assist? Coaches just pull them out and put in the same starter(s) who do not have the stats in the game. Just grind it out until we nearly lose every game? So frustrating. ](*,)
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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Cledus » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:28 pm

Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see us get bounced in the second round of the BSC tourney.


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Post by coloradocat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:30 pm

The refs made sure to remind everyone that these games aren't about the players. It's the guys with whistles that everyone comes to see.


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Post by John K » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:31 pm

Our first 4-0 sweep over UM in MBB and WBB.since 1999, but we lost in FB that year. You'd have to go back a very, very long time for our last 5-0 sweep in the three major sports.



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Post by Desert_Bobcat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:33 pm

Cledus wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:28 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see us get bounced in the second round of the BSC tourney.
Consistency is one of the biggest bugaboos this team struggles with.



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Re: Cat - Griz Mbb game thread

Post by Common Cat » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:35 pm

Cledus wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:28 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:12 pm
People are going to roast me on this and I get it but we are not a great basketball team. We play good defense in a sub par conference and we can’t shoot the ball.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see us get bounced in the second round of the BSC tourney.
Have you watched EWU?


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Post by Hawks86 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:39 pm

Did we win? Doesn't seem like it around here.


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Post by MSU01 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:46 pm

Nice win - but damn, MSU could not get a stop in the last 10 minutes to save their lives. Thank goodness they were able to finally hit some 3s to build that lead or it would've been a different story. Unless someone else scored late I think 4 guys scored every point for the Griz.

Battle saves MSU again - concerned about Jubrile, he just doesn't look like himself. Maybe he just never really got over that knee injury from last year.



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