O'Reilly -- I need some help

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:32 am

Okay, Bill in confusing me. Just so we can keep our black and white perspective on the world straight, but somebody please explain one thing to me? Do the evil liberals love Israel (because many Jews are liberal) or do they hate Israel (because they support the Palestinian cause)?

It's still a bit amazing to me that he is able to pull a liberal/conservative thing out of even this issue, but he just confuses the heck out of me in the process. For those of us too busy to think for ourselves and rely on talking heads to tell us who is good and who is evil, where are we now to turn. It appears that liberals are on both sides!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204616,00.html

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:45 pm

it's the same old tired rhetoric of the media is liberal and everything that's wrong in the world either comes from the left or is supported by the left. bill oreilly has to keep up this rhetoric or he will lose his audience and go back to being a nothing before he jumped on rush's coat tails. some day the far right will learn to think for themselves and not have to be told what to think. when this happens oreilly, hannity, and limbaugh will be out of business.

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:29 pm

hokeyfine wrote:it's the same old tired rhetoric of the media is liberal and everything that's wrong in the world either comes from the left or is supported by the left. bill oreilly has to keep up this rhetoric or he will lose his audience and go back to being a nothing before he jumped on rush's coat tails. some day the far right will learn to think for themselves and not have to be told what to think. when this happens oreilly, hannity, and limbaugh will be out of business.

Yeah, it wouldn't break my heart to see them follow suit with Janeane Garofalo, Al Franken, et al from Air America.

A nice snip on the both the edges of the right and left would do some good in my opinion.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:36 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:
hokeyfine wrote:it's the same old tired rhetoric of the media is liberal and everything that's wrong in the world either comes from the left or is supported by the left. bill oreilly has to keep up this rhetoric or he will lose his audience and go back to being a nothing before he jumped on rush's coat tails. some day the far right will learn to think for themselves and not have to be told what to think. when this happens oreilly, hannity, and limbaugh will be out of business.
Yeah, it wouldn't break my heart to see them follow suit with Janeane Garofalo, Al Franken, et al from Air America.

A nice snip on the both the edges of the right and left would do some good in my opinion.

Amen to that. Fewer hysterical rants from both sides would make for a lot more useful public debate on virtually every issue.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:23 pm

The title of this thread should be:

O'Reilly -- He needs some help

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:51 pm

I agree, a little thinking and discovery by oneself would help the dolts on the left and right......news alert, God doesn't hate you if your on the left, heck he even tolerates W.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:02 pm

hokeyfine wrote:I agree, a little thinking and discovery by oneself would help the dolts on the left and right......news alert, God doesn't hate you if your on the left, heck he even tolerates W.

Actually Jesus was a liberal!!

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:11 pm

mslacat wrote:
hokeyfine wrote:I agree, a little thinking and discovery by oneself would help the dolts on the left and right......news alert, God doesn't hate you if your on the left, heck he even tolerates W.
Actually Jesus was a liberal!!

Oh Lordy. Be careful where you say that. Some people get really pissed.

They would say that all that talk about pacifism, helping the poor, rich people not being able to get into heaven, he without sin, turn the other cheek, do unto others ... that all of that was taken out of context and that Jesus was actually a supply side hawk who wanted poor people to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and to quit whining.

Strange, that argument....

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:13 pm

And just to ratchet things up a bit ... that's why I can not, in good faith, claim to be a Christian ... because I am a firm capitalist, and the teachings of Jesus conflict with my fiscal conservative nature.

So I can say that Jesus seems like a great guy and all ... I just don't care for his politics.

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:31 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:...and that Jesus was actually a supply side hawk who wanted poor people to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and to quit whining.

I have to admit, I actually LOLd at the notion of Jesus being a "supply-sider."

I wonder how Jesus felt about reducing the tax rate on corporate dividends to 15 percent? Or, what do you think his views are on Subchapter-S reform?

--GL

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:34 pm

Oh ... I am out of the loop on S Corp reform ... you need to get out here (or me there) so you can educate me on that one over beers. Good times.

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:00 am

I think God has a great sense of humor and enjoys the banter back and forth between right and left. I think he even chuckles when bush claims it was God's will, or something like that, that he is in office. God thinks it was just dumb luck.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:05 am

Bush is proof there is no God.