NDSU/Griz semifinals

[KIX]

As a long time Montanan, Griz Fan, and lastly college football fan, This thread points out a few things. People that post on message boards are a fraction of each teams fan base. I.E When Griz lost to Nau, the vocal posters where giving up on the Griz and their coaches. Most posters on Cat and Griz boards, let the other team live in their head. I.E say stupid stuff about hating the other team, yet not stepping back and realizing the majority of the teams consist of athletic Montana young men. As Montana residents, we are truly fortunate to have two of the best FCS programs in the nation within our University system and state boarder. When we get to this point in the season, we are really really fortunate to be watching either program play on the weekend. It would have been great to see the Cats beat NDSU and still be playing this coming weekend. Lastly, back in the day (70's) there certainly didn't seem to be the dislike for the other program. Having said that, there also wasn't forums that anonymous idiots could express their hate and dislike to the other program. Go Griz! Go Montana!

That's all fair, but the pettiness of your head coach can't have helped. He called us State because "they don't deserve to have Montana in their name". He won't stay in Bozeman. Then some of the post-game interviews where he said he wished the game was longer so they could keep kicking our ass and this year, "I call that an ass kicking". If he and the gris fans expect Bobcat fans to turn around and pull for him and his team after stuff like that, I don't know quite what to tell you. I know several players on that team and they're great kids. I'd love to see them play well in a loss. I'm from the Flathead, which has always been mostly gris fans. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a Bobcat game with them and they pulled for the other team, so I don't buy it when you guys claim "we pull for you guys when we're not playing you". I'm sure some do, but I haven't met many.

Preach it brother!

As tough as it was growing up during "the streak", looking back on it now, I could at least respect those UM teams coached by Joe Glenn. Wasn't his fault that MSU hired a program wrecker - he who shall not be named - away from NDSU, a decision that ended up setting the program back by over a decade.

My disdain for all things maroon and silver really began - and has been repeatedly reinforced - by the egotistical jerk that is the face of the program. His antics and schtik has poisoned his players and this this rivalry and he's only gotten worse every year he's been at the helm. Incredibly bitter, petty man that doesn't deserve the satisfaction of winning a NC.

[AFCAT]

They always post stuff like this, then say "see? Look how much nicer we are than you!" BS, they hate us. They're the bully that's really nice when the teacher is paying attention, then when the teacher turns their back, they try to punch you in the nuts.

The Robby Hauck part always seemed like it might have been fake to me.

Pulled it right off his Twitter page.

[CodyCat]

They always post stuff like this, then say "see? Look how much nicer we are than you!" BS, they hate us. They're the bully that's really nice when the teacher is paying attention, then when the teacher turns their back, they try to punch you in the nuts.

The Robby Hauck part always seemed like it might have been fake to me.

Pulled it right off his Twitter page.

For the first time ever, I agree with that kid.

[aucat]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

[John K]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

You nailed it there right there, at the end of your post. Even if you don't cheer against the gris just on general principle, as is the case for many of us, Bobcat fans should cheer against them simply because it's a zero sum game to some extent. The better they do, the more it's going to hurt us in a number of different ways, but especially with regard to in-state recruiting, and out of state recruiting too, to a lesser degree.

[84CatGrad]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

We kicked their ass in X country and will in track for what that's worth.

[BozoneCat]

I just read a piece in montanasports.com, about the last time the gris played in the semi-finals in 2011, which was later vacated. Former gris Sam Gratton mentioned that they went into the "litter box" and destroyed the Cats 36-10. gris fans can talk to me about how we should support them in the playoffs when their coaches, fans, and players stop disrespecting our program in the way that Gratton did with that comment. FTG....I hope NDSU beats them 63-0. I will never, ever, ever cheer for those douches against anyone, and I will never ever apologize to anyone for hating them. "Hate" might be too strong of a word...let's go with "despise" instead . The streak probably made our fans too bitter, but it made everyone associated with that program way too arrogant and disrespectful. I know that most of them are good people individually, but collectively they need to get over their entitled, arrogant BS, and I don't think that will ever happen. We could win 10 straight NC, and they could go 0-11 10 straight years and somehow in their minds, they'd still think their program was superior to ours.

[91catAlum]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

What you're saying makes sense but it hasn't really panned out that way in recent years. MSU had all the momentum from about 2019 forward thru 2022, other than the 2021 football game. 3 consecutive semifinal appearances in football with a trip to Frisco, Sprinkle rebuilding the basketball team and winning the conference again.
Then we lost Sprinkle and had 1 football season where we underperformed, and here we are. This year is more of an anomaly in what's been happening in recent years. If their football team does better than us again next year then I'll start to worry it's a trend.

[MinnesotaBobcat]

I’m curious to see how the Bison come out tomorrow after a week of distraction. I know they won the whole thing the last two times they switched coaches mid-season…..but based on their players tweets they aren’t happy that Roehl hasn’t been named yet. I still think they will more than likely push Montana around and shut down McDouble….or whatever his name is. Unless Bergen saves the day again with two returns, I think it’ll be NDSU that gets to go to Frisco and take home the second place trophy.

[catatac]

I’m curious to see how the Bison come out tomorrow after a week of distraction. I know they won the whole thing the last two times they switched coaches mid-season…..but based on their players tweets they aren’t happy that Roehl hasn’t been named yet. I still think they will more than likely push Montana around and shut down McDouble….or whatever his name is. Unless Bergen saves the day again with two returns, I think it’ll be NDSU that gets to go to Frisco and take home the second place trophy.

McDouble

[football fan 0120]

I just read a piece in montanasports.com, about the last time the gris played in the semi-finals in 2011, which was later vacated. Former gris Sam Gratton mentioned that they went into the "litter box" and destroyed the Cats 36-10. gris fans can talk to me about how we should support them in the playoffs when their coaches, fans, and players stop disrespecting our program in the way that Gratton did with that comment. FTG....I hope NDSU beats them 63-0. I will never, ever, ever cheer for those douches against anyone, and I will never ever apologize to anyone for hating them. "Hate" might be too strong of a word...let's go with "despise" instead . The streak probably made our fans too bitter, but it made everyone associated with that program way too arrogant and disrespectful. I know that most of them are good people individually, but collectively they need to get over their entitled, arrogant BS, and I don't think that will ever happen. We could win 10 straight NC, and they could go 0-11 10 straight years and somehow in their minds, they'd still think their program was superior to ours.

Now I understand the meaning of "The Griz live in the minds of the Cats" LOL

[Bobcat4Ever]

Semifinal Matchups

NDSU 30 (-3.5) 58%
UM 27 42%

SDSU 34 (-24.5) 94%
SUNY Albany 10 6%

Prob of winning championship
SDSU 61.6
SUNY Albany 1.78
UM 11.58
NDSU 25.37

Go, Bison. Win the “z”.

[aucat]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

We kicked their ass in X country and will in track for what that's worth.

I certainly respect the hard work and sacrifice involved in such sports as track and x-c and tennis and golf, etc. But obviously, I'm more tuned in to the team sports that are well attended: football, basketball and volleyball. I wish we had a softball team, but apparently we don't have a Denny Washington type guy to underwrite the program's expenses.

[Gr8 day to be a Bobcat]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

We kicked their ass in X country and will in track for what that's worth.

I certainly respect the hard work and sacrifice involved in such sports as track and x-c and tennis and golf, etc. But obviously, I'm more tuned in to the team sports that are well attended: football, basketball and volleyball. I wish we had a softball team, but apparently we don't have a Denny Washington type guy to underwrite the program's expenses.

In fairness MSU does have them, they just spend the money on academic buildings and programs instead of sports. Asbjornson, Jabs, The nursing program donation(I can't remember the name off the top of my head).

[Griznationalist]

The lack of confidence that manifests in the form of Griz hate must keep a lot of counselors busy.

[PapaG]

The lack of confidence that manifests in the form of Griz hate must keep a lot of counselors busy.

Drab and unoriginal smack.

You’re even more boring than the new Gris troll.

Have fun losing tomorrow.

[specscat]

Yeah, this year (2023-24) is shaping up to be like one of those from not that long ago. The Griz football team adminstered an "ass kicking" to us, which by the way makes two out of the last three years. I am predicting that their men's basketball team will handily whip us twice this year. I think we have a chance to split with the women, but UM will be favored in both games. Only in volleyball can we say that the Cats bested UM (I believe we won 2 out of 3 against them.) Of course, this time last year it was the other way around. Normally these things go in trends. One team will get on top and stay on top for a while. It is unusual to see it rotating back and forth. Last year I was hopeful that a trend had been established in both football and basketball, but what a difference one year makes. This is one reason, at least in my case. why I just cannot pull for the Griz. I do not want to see them establish a trend where they start to dominate in athletics against MSU. It's like a snowball gathering momentum. It's obviously easier to recruit when you are winning rather than losing.

We kicked their ass in X country and will in track for what that's worth.

I certainly respect the hard work and sacrifice involved in such sports as track and x-c and tennis and golf, etc. But obviously, I'm more tuned in to the team sports that are well attended: football, basketball and volleyball. I wish we had a softball team, but apparently we don't have a Denny Washington type guy to underwrite the program's expenses.

In fairness MSU does have them, they just spend the money on academic buildings and programs instead of sports. Asbjornson, Jabs, The nursing program donation(I can't remember the name off the top of my head).

Nursing - Mark and Robyn Jones

Greg Gianforte has also donated for a new building.
Gianforte previously donated to the Gianforte School of Computing (formerly/better known as the Computer Science Department).

[football fan 0120]

The lack of confidence that manifests in the form of Griz hate must keep a lot of counselors busy.

LOL

[Hawks86]

The lack of confidence that manifests in the form of Griz hate must keep a lot of counselors busy.

LOL

I'm not a counselor, but someone walking into a room, throwing $hit on the wall, and running out has some issues.

[Griznationalist]

The lack of confidence that manifests in the form of Griz hate must keep a lot of counselors busy.

LOL

I'm not a counselor, but someone walking into a room, throwing $hit on the wall, and running out has some issues.

The Big Sky Conference and the rivalry are better when the Bobcats are relevant. May the Bobcat players be healthy, the Bobcat coaches be successful, and the Bobcat fans be happy in 2024.