Kade Cutler in portal

[catatac]

I can't decide which road to take. I could just wish him luck and move along, or I could try and figure out the one person to blame for his leaving and rage about it for awhile.

If he has the games of his life on the third Saturday of November, we can rage about it then if it costs us a W. Disappointed when Montana kids leave but maybe he didn’t fit the bill. Vim is right more than not. I’ll wish the kid the best except for that one mentioned Saturday.

At the end of the day, the kid just wants a chance to play and he thinks there's a better shot at UM than MSU. Jaxon Lee is a starting safety for UM and they're close friends and former teammates in high school. He's closer to P-burg. Hope he gets a shot at some varsity minutes.

Well if this kid ends up getting significant playing time for the dark pinkies, I'm going to chalk that up as an EPIC failure on our coaching staff, and Garza specifically, although Vigen needs to be held accountable for all decisions made by all coaches, if in fact he leaves all the playing time decisions up to the coordinators. If any of these guys are right there close to being "above the line", there is ZERO reason to not get them worked into every game on the schedule. Daly needs to head into 2024 with this mindset. We regularly rotate players at some positions, and need to do that for every position on the field (Yes, including kicker) - especially early in the season. If we don't have any other players "game ready" behind the starters at all positions, then again I chalk this up as an epic failure on the coaching staff.

[VimSince03]

I can't decide which road to take. I could just wish him luck and move along, or I could try and figure out the one person to blame for his leaving and rage about it for awhile.

If he has the games of his life on the third Saturday of November, we can rage about it then if it costs us a W. Disappointed when Montana kids leave but maybe he didn’t fit the bill. Vim is right more than not. I’ll wish the kid the best except for that one mentioned Saturday.

At the end of the day, the kid just wants a chance to play and he thinks there's a better shot at UM than MSU. Jaxon Lee is a starting safety for UM and they're close friends and former teammates in high school. He's closer to P-burg. Hope he gets a shot at some varsity minutes.

Well if this kid ends up getting significant playing time for the dark pinkies, I'm going to chalk that up as an EPIC failure on our coaching staff, and Garza specifically, although Vigen needs to be held accountable for all decisions made by all coaches, if in fact he leaves all the playing time decisions up to the coordinators. If any of these guys are right there close to being "above the line", there is ZERO reason to not get them worked into every game on the schedule. Daly needs to head into 2024 with this mindset. We regularly rotate players at some positions, and need to do that for every position on the field (Yes, including kicker) - especially early in the season. If we don't have any other players "game ready" behind the starters at all positions, then again I chalk this up as an epic failure on the coaching staff.

Just focusing on LBs, we brought in a transfer in Cole Bullock but it likely isn't great for his prospects if a converted safety in Eli Aby ended up moving ahead of him on the depth chart as our 4th LB. We need Bullock, Aby, and Daily to take a big leap forward if we want to be great on defense in 2024.

[94VegasCat]

I can't decide which road to take. I could just wish him luck and move along, or I could try and figure out the one person to blame for his leaving and rage about it for awhile.

If he has the games of his life on the third Saturday of November, we can rage about it then if it costs us a W. Disappointed when Montana kids leave but maybe he didn’t fit the bill. Vim is right more than not. I’ll wish the kid the best except for that one mentioned Saturday.

At the end of the day, the kid just wants a chance to play and he thinks there's a better shot at UM than MSU. Jaxon Lee is a starting safety for UM and they're close friends and former teammates in high school. He's closer to P-burg. Hope he gets a shot at some varsity minutes.

Well if this kid ends up getting significant playing time for the dark pinkies, I'm going to chalk that up as an EPIC failure on our coaching staff, and Garza specifically, although Vigen needs to be held accountable for all decisions made by all coaches, if in fact he leaves all the playing time decisions up to the coordinators. If any of these guys are right there close to being "above the line", there is ZERO reason to not get them worked into every game on the schedule. Daly needs to head into 2024 with this mindset. We regularly rotate players at some positions, and need to do that for every position on the field (Yes, including kicker) - especially early in the season. If we don't have any other players "game ready" behind the starters at all positions, then again I chalk this up as an epic failure on the coaching staff.

Just focusing on LBs, we brought in a transfer in Cole Bullock but it likely isn't great for his prospects if a converted safety in Eli Aby ended up moving ahead of him on the depth chart as our 4th LB. We need Bullock, Aby, and Daily to take a big leap forward if we want to be great on defense in 2024.

They can only get better from live reps. 21+ point leads should be enough cushion to get these guys those reps. 4 games plus playoffs should get plenty of opportunity.

[GoCats18]

He probably heard that Denny Washington is going to pay every player $1.5 million/year starting next season. And with the FCS announcing that UM will get automatically get the #2 playoff seed for life do go home game revenue in the playoffs I can see why he would give up being coached by Jody Owens to go there…..

[MTnative]

The decision was mostly for academic purposes…

Hahahahahahhahahahahahah.

As in couldn’t hack it at a school with REAL technical degrees?

NOBODY transfers to um for better academic opportunities, outside of the law school.

This is gross. I hope he sees the field during cat-griz entire to another 30 point brawl beatdown.

[grizzh8r]

I just hope the jests that a few of our guys posted under his Twitter announcement are either in good fun, or the kid is a complete dork that secretly kept Griz paraphernalia on his locker.

All in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.

As is always the case. Cat and Griz players are ALWAYS more respectful to one another than Cat and Griz fans.

Unless your name is Robbie Hauck. Or Connor Strahm...

[84CatGrad]

If he didn't get on the field for us then he either had nagging injuries or wasn't good enough. Period. Nobody wants to win games more than the coaches. They play the kids that have the best shot at delivering a win. I wish the kid well.

[BelligerentBobcat]

If he didn't get on the field for us then he either had nagging injuries or wasn't good enough. Period. Nobody wants to win games more than the coaches. They play the kids that have the best shot at delivering a win. I wish the kid well.

There’s a ton of context that can go into this, but I think “coaches aren’t infallible” will suffice.

[kennethnoisewater]

If he didn't get on the field for us then he either had nagging injuries or wasn't good enough. Period. Nobody wants to win games more than the coaches. They play the kids that have the best shot at delivering a win. I wish the kid well.

There’s a ton of context that can go into this, but I think “coaches aren’t infallible” will suffice.

Yeah that's what I was going to say. I do think it's interesting, if this is a WMG thing, that Kade chose to make this move after WMG left and Daly/Owens were in place. I'm sure Kade would have already been talking to the gris secretly, but if Daly/Owens wanted him to stay they had a chance to at least talk to him about staying. I'd be interested to know if Daly had the same opinion as WMG or if he was out the door anyway.

[TomCat88]

If he didn't get on the field for us then he either had nagging injuries or wasn't good enough. Period. Nobody wants to win games more than the coaches. They play the kids that have the best shot at delivering a win. I wish the kid well.

There’s a ton of context that can go into this, but I think “coaches aren’t infallible” will suffice.

Yeah that's what I was going to say. I do think it's interesting, if this is a WMG thing, that Kade chose to make this move after WMG left and Daly/Owens were in place. I'm sure Kade would have already been talking to the gris secretly, but if Daly/Owens wanted him to stay they had a chance to at least talk to him about staying. I'd be interested to know if Daly had the same opinion as WMG or if he was out the door anyway.

Yes, that kinda blows the wmg theory out of the water.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I just hope the jests that a few of our guys posted under his Twitter announcement are either in good fun, or the kid is a complete dork that secretly kept Griz paraphernalia on his locker.

All in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.

Generally I agree with you that the players respect each other and have fun with the rivalry.

However, I don’t think they take switching sides lightly.

[nanacat]

I just hope the jests that a few of our guys posted under his Twitter announcement are either in good fun, or the kid is a complete dork that secretly kept Griz paraphernalia on his locker.

All in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.

Generally I agree with you that the players respect each other and have fun with the rivalry.

However, I don’t think they take switching sides lightly.

This is my thought too. It's one thing to go elsewhere, totally different to go to your in state rival. Not sure his history, grew up a gris fan, but was he offered by the gris? I'm guessing not, so he took the offer he got. Was his heart ever in it, really? Perhaps the coaches saw that in his effort? Idk, but it's a bad look to switch to the bad guys, imo.

[PapaG]

I can't decide which road to take. I could just wish him luck and move along, or I could try and figure out the one person to blame for his leaving and rage about it for awhile.

If he has the games of his life on the third Saturday of November, we can rage about it then if it costs us a W. Disappointed when Montana kids leave but maybe he didn’t fit the bill. Vim is right more than not. I’ll wish the kid the best except for that one mentioned Saturday.

At the end of the day, the kid just wants a chance to play and he thinks there's a better shot at UM than MSU. Jaxon Lee is a starting safety for UM and they're close friends and former teammates in high school. He's closer to P-burg. Hope he gets a shot at some varsity minutes.

Well if this kid ends up getting significant playing time for the dark pinkies, I'm going to chalk that up as an EPIC failure on our coaching staff, and Garza specifically, although Vigen needs to be held accountable for all decisions made by all coaches, if in fact he leaves all the playing time decisions up to the coordinators. If any of these guys are right there close to being "above the line", there is ZERO reason to not get them worked into every game on the schedule. Daly needs to head into 2024 with this mindset. We regularly rotate players at some positions, and need to do that for every position on the field (Yes, including kicker) - especially early in the season. If we don't have any other players "game ready" behind the starters at all positions, then again I chalk this up as an epic failure on the coaching staff.

Just focusing on LBs, we brought in a transfer in Cole Bullock but it likely isn't great for his prospects if a converted safety in Eli Aby ended up moving ahead of him on the depth chart as our 4th LB. We need Bullock, Aby, and Daily to take a big leap forward if we want to be great on defense in 2024.

They can only get better from live reps. 21+ point leads should be enough cushion to get these guys those reps. 4 games plus playoffs should get plenty of opportunity.

The backups got plenty of reps last season and struggled in 4th quarters, to put it nicely. It was actually a concern on how uninspired they looked against bad teams’ starters. If this guy couldn’t see the field, I assume it’s a talent issue because the idea that this one guy I’ve never heard of had some sort of vendetta against him by the coaching staff seems absurd. Plus, the DC is now gone so why not stick it out and if he is good, show it to Daly.

Sometimes players just aren’t FCS-level and there is zero chance he’s getting a full scholarship at UM, IMO. Could a good Frontier player who’s not giving up FCS and will get a degree regardless.

[84CatGrad]

If he didn't get on the field for us then he either had nagging injuries or wasn't good enough. Period. Nobody wants to win games more than the coaches. They play the kids that have the best shot at delivering a win. I wish the kid well.

There’s a ton of context that can go into this, but I think “coaches aren’t infallible” will suffice.

Of course they aren't infallible. Who is? But I think their #1 consideration for playing time is winning the game. There are lots of other factors - developing players, maintaining discipline, rewarding effort, etc.

[basincat]

For a Montana kid to do that says something. Maybe it was only in the kid's eyes, but this is not something that just happens. Coaches want to win. But I also know for a fact that a lot of coaches not from Montana are not going to look at a small town Montana kid coming in objectively. By default, a lot of them will think he can't play at the level some kid coming in from Texas or some big school could play at. Just human nature, but these kids have to do more to shine and prove to the coach they can see the field. Maybe that isn't the case here. It's still not a good look. Now more than ever we have to get the best Montana kids, because they are the ones who stand the best chance of staying 4 years. He clearly thinks he was good enough and coach didn't give him a chance and now he wants to stick it to us. Only time will tell, but if he goes over there and becomes a major contributor, then someone screwed the pooch here.

[BelligerentBobcat]

For a Montana kid to do that says something. Maybe it was only in the kid's eyes, but this is not something that just happens. Coaches want to win. But I also know for a fact that a lot of coaches not from Montana are not going to look at a small town Montana kid coming in objectively. By default, a lot of them will think he can't play at the level some kid coming in from Texas or some big school could play at. Just human nature, but these kids have to do more to shine and prove to the coach they can see the field. Maybe that isn't the case here. It's still not a good look. Now more than ever we have to get the best Montana kids, because they are the ones who stand the best chance of staying 4 years. He clearly thinks he was good enough and coach didn't give him a chance and now he wants to stick it to us. Only time will tell, but if he goes ever there and becomes a major contributor, then someone screwed the pooch here.

Rylan Ortt is a starter. I’m not saying WMG didn’t have “his guys”. Quite frankly, I have no idea, but I’ve yet to know a coach who didn’t have “his guys”. All I’m saying is that I doubt the coaches give a rip where the players are coming from.

[AFCAT]

For a Montana kid to do that says something. Maybe it was only in the kid's eyes, but this is not something that just happens. Coaches want to win. But I also know for a fact that a lot of coaches not from Montana are not going to look at a small town Montana kid coming in objectively. By default, a lot of them will think he can't play at the level some kid coming in from Texas or some big school could play at. Just human nature, but these kids have to do more to shine and prove to the coach they can see the field. Maybe that isn't the case here. It's still not a good look. Now more than ever we have to get the best Montana kids, because they are the ones who stand the best chance of staying 4 years. He clearly thinks he was good enough and coach didn't give him a chance and now he wants to stick it to us. Only time will tell, but if he goes ever there and becomes a major contributor, then someone screwed the pooch here.

Rylan Ortt is a starter. I’m not saying WMG didn’t have “his guys”. Quite frankly, I have no idea, but I’ve yet to know a coach who didn’t have “his guys”. All I’m saying is that I doubt the coaches give a rip where the players are coming from.

Caden Dowler too before his injury.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

What a flake. Don’t care what anybody says, you want dogs on the team that hate Missoula, not some wishy washy on the fence types. Worst of luck to you Kade, no injuries but no success either. You know that douche Bobby came in and pitched hard for him to flop. If that’s all it took, good riddance.

[Hawks86]

The board had questions about what exactly double rep practices are. Well, it gives kids on the second field a bunch of reps to show they should be on the first field. If a rash of injuries happen, you never make it to the first field, or you don't show enough when you get there to get any meaningful game time, then I guess that player has to make some decisions. IMO.

[Cataholic]

For a Montana kid to do that says something. Maybe it was only in the kid's eyes, but this is not something that just happens. Coaches want to win. But I also know for a fact that a lot of coaches not from Montana are not going to look at a small town Montana kid coming in objectively. By default, a lot of them will think he can't play at the level some kid coming in from Texas or some big school could play at. Just human nature, but these kids have to do more to shine and prove to the coach they can see the field. Maybe that isn't the case here. It's still not a good look. Now more than ever we have to get the best Montana kids, because they are the ones who stand the best chance of staying 4 years. He clearly thinks he was good enough and coach didn't give him a chance and now he wants to stick it to us. Only time will tell, but if he goes over there and becomes a major contributor, then someone screwed the pooch here.

Have you ever heard of Melstone or Sunburst, MT? I think the track record is okay for small town kids getting a good look.

And Rylan Ortt is an all-conference guy. If Cutler wants significant playing time, his chances might be better at his position in Missoula.

And recall Dalton Daum switched programs a couple of years back and had no impact with the Cats. Cutler didn’t play much for us and I can’t fault him for pursuing something that might yield more playing time.