both women & men vs. SDSU

[WYCAT]

This is sad to watch. We look like we're playing the original dream team. I knew we'd be overmatched but not this bad. We play no defense, can't run an offense, athleticism isn't even comparable. Earlier in the year I got blasted for saying we have high school talent. I stand by that statement. No fault of coach Logie's but this sucks.

Your statement that they have high school talent was and is complete ******. They have bottom third D-1 talent and their results indicate that. Today is a terrible game indeed.

We'll have to agree to disagree buddy. We lost handily to Rocky at home. That ain't bottom third D-1. We show flashes at times but the evidence is there.

[nevadacat]

Is anyone watching this on TV? From the radio call it sounds like the Jacks are getting some home cooking. It also seems like the Cats are struggling on both ends of the floor.

I’m watching. SDSU not called for some fouls on shots under the basket, but not terrible. Lindsey Hein was effective, but picked up two quick legitimate fouls. Being down three planned beginning of year starters in Dylan Philip, Lexi Deden, and KJ Limardo against a team that usually is a ranked mid-major — we’re just short of experience and firepower. But not out of talent. Malia Egan looks good and unafraid of being a freshman. Etc. Etc. But we are probably once again playing one of the youngest lineups in the NCAA. And that’s leading to more fouls being called. Their very strong point guard tends to barrel headlong into double teams and somehow draws the foul even though she initiates the contact. I’ve never understood that call …

Thanks for the perspective. I appreciate it!

Good comments BC4E, coach Binford said much the same about her team. She added compliments for Johnson and Janssen as well. Man everyone of these freshman players are showing they have good skills and show no fear of going against older stronger players.
I sure hope Limardo is good to go soon, like on the 11th against NAU.

Love the commentary, Joe. To understand Bobcat hoops, Bobcat4Ever, Belgrade Bobcat, and BobcatDel are the go-tos. Of course, BC4E has a great historical perspective, having been a contemporary of Cat Thompson.

[nevadacat]

Are these games not on ESPN+...?

Only on summit League Network to get video for $9.99.
The call for the mens game by Keaton Gillogly is here.
https://thevarsitynetwork.com/feed/sour ... -Live-1091

Gonna have to switch over. Cannot stand the Midco announcer and his suffix fetish.

You can listen to Keaton's radio call with the Varsity Network app and sync it with the TV broadcast. If it's the same guy who calls the football games, I don't blame you. That guy is annoying.

Syncing it with YouTube. Either way, Keaton is so much better to listen to.

[aucat]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

[Joe Bobcat]

This is sad to watch. We look like we're playing the original dream team. I knew we'd be overmatched but not this bad. We play no defense, can't run an offense, athleticism isn't even comparable. Earlier in the year I got blasted for saying we have high school talent. I stand by that statement. No fault of coach Logie's but this sucks.

Your statement that they have high school talent was and is complete ******. They have bottom third D-1 talent and their results indicate that. Today is a terrible game indeed.

We'll have to agree to disagree buddy. We lost handily to Rocky at home. That ain't bottom third D-1. We show flashes at times but the evidence is there.

WY you are the perfect poster child example of an entitled fan, plus a pessimistic fan, plus a yo-yo fan, all rolled into one. Add in your hyperbolic negative evaluation of the talent level on the men's team and you're a really breathtaking fan (in a Seinfeld kind of way)

[MSU01]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

The MSU program isn't ruined. They're what they've been for a long time with the exception of the last two seasons, a reasonably competitive but middle of the pack Big Sky team. Sprinkle didn't take anyone with him, he recruited players who chose to enter the Transfer Portal just like every single coach does. None of the guys who transferred were coming back to MSU.

[BobcatDel]

Is anyone watching this on TV? From the radio call it sounds like the Jacks are getting some home cooking. It also seems like the Cats are struggling on both ends of the floor.

I’m watching. SDSU not called for some fouls on shots under the basket, but not terrible. Lindsey Hein was effective, but picked up two quick legitimate fouls. Being down three planned beginning of year starters in Dylan Philip, Lexi Deden, and KJ Limardo against a team that usually is a ranked mid-major — we’re just short of experience and firepower. But not out of talent. Malia Egan looks good and unafraid of being a freshman. Etc. Etc. But we are probably once again playing one of the youngest lineups in the NCAA. And that’s leading to more fouls being called. Their very strong point guard tends to barrel headlong into double teams and somehow draws the foul even though she initiates the contact. I’ve never understood that call …

Thanks for the perspective. I appreciate it!

Good comments BC4E, coach Binford said much the same about her team. She added compliments for Johnson and Janssen as well. Man everyone of these freshman players are showing they have good skills and show no fear of going against older stronger players.
I sure hope Limardo is good to go soon, like on the 11th against NAU.

I apologize if mentioned elsewhere but the other person that stepped up a bit today is Berry. She has been in kinda a funk but she had another good game today. I thought Johnson could compete this year (but was kinda hoping she could keep her red shirt to gain that extra year if Deden had stayed healthy)... now when she is out on the court you can see how well she runs the floor and plays good D for a kid with only a few games under her belt. What you haven't really seen is that she has some pretty good moves under the basket too which I have observed....they'll come out in a game as she grows in game experience.

Just keep growing bit by bit ladies and come on strong carrying into the tourney.

South Dakota State has always impressed me with the way they are coached (24 year head coach) and generally disciplined ballplayers. Heck they won the WNIT a couple years back and have earned a seed as high as 8 going into the NCAAs. I was worried we couldn't keep their strong O game in check.... but other than the 1st Q we met our goals and held them to only 61 points which was great.. I thought.

So now we face another offensive juggernaut in NAU on the road next Thursday. NAU has consistently ranked in upper quarter of conference in offensive stats and look like they are going to be there again this year. But then they got dumped by NDSU who we soundly defeated on Saturday..... go figure. I wonder if Coach Bin has anything planned to counter the NAU former Bobcat runaways (Beattie and Beasley). HA!

[MinnesotaBobcat]

Note to Summit Conference…..if the Mountain West can let us watch Utah State v. Colorado State for free, you might want to do the same for games like MSU/SDSU. You’d likely get a few more eyeballs on your games……

[84CatGrad]

I saw Limardo walking around in sweats shortly after the game so at least it doesn't appear to be an ankle or knee.

[Joe Bobcat]

Is anyone watching this on TV? From the radio call it sounds like the Jacks are getting some home cooking. It also seems like the Cats are struggling on both ends of the floor.

I’m watching. SDSU not called for some fouls on shots under the basket, but not terrible. Lindsey Hein was effective, but picked up two quick legitimate fouls. Being down three planned beginning of year starters in Dylan Philip, Lexi Deden, and KJ Limardo against a team that usually is a ranked mid-major — we’re just short of experience and firepower. But not out of talent. Malia Egan looks good and unafraid of being a freshman. Etc. Etc. But we are probably once again playing one of the youngest lineups in the NCAA. And that’s leading to more fouls being called. Their very strong point guard tends to barrel headlong into double teams and somehow draws the foul even though she initiates the contact. I’ve never understood that call …

Thanks for the perspective. I appreciate it!

Good comments BC4E, coach Binford said much the same about her team. She added compliments for Johnson and Janssen as well. Man everyone of these freshman players are showing they have good skills and show no fear of going against older stronger players.
I sure hope Limardo is good to go soon, like on the 11th against NAU.

I apologize if mentioned elsewhere but the other person that stepped up a bit today is Berry. She has been in kinda a funk but she had another good game today. I thought Johnson could compete this year (but was kinda hoping she could keep her red shirt to gain that extra year if Deden had stayed healthy)... now when she is out on the court you can see how well she runs the floor and plays good D for a kid with only a few games under her belt. What you haven't really seen is that she has some pretty good moves under the basket too which I have observed....they'll come out in a game as she grows in game experience.

Just keep growing bit by bit ladies and come on strong carrying into the tourney.

South Dakota State has always impressed me with the way they are coached (24 year head coach) and generally disciplined ballplayers. Heck they won the WNIT a couple years back and have earned a seed as high as 8 going into the NCAAs. I was worried we couldn't keep their strong O game in check.... but other than the 1st Q we met our goals and held them to only 61 points which was great.. I thought.

So now we face another offensive juggernaut in NAU on the road next Thursday. NAU has consistently ranked in upper quarter of conference in offensive stats and look like they are going to be there again this year. But then they got dumped by NDSU who we soundly defeated on Saturday..... go figure. I wonder if Coach Bin has anything planned to counter the NAU former Bobcat runaways (Beattie and Beasley). HA!

Great added comments BCDel. Yeah I don't know what to make of the score comparisons of common opponents of SDSU and NDSU for MSU and NAU.
No matter what I expect a very tough game for the Bobcats to win at Flagstaff. It's always hard to win there and coach Paine always has a tough team ready to play a physical game. She also has lots of returning players and the 2 defectors from MSU adds quite the wildcard into the equation. I don't know the whole story but if one or both of them were the source and cause of bad chemistry then it's a good thing they're gone even if they both went to the same conference rival.

[rfischer94]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

I disagree. Sprinkle doesn't owe anything to MSU. He did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I don't think it's fair to fault him for that, even though it's hard on Bobcat fans. I'm watching Coach Sprinkle's Aggies giving number 13 Colorado State all they can handle and it's fun to see him, Osobor, and Brown have success.

[wapiti]

What is the Big Sky vs summit challenge at? Is there going to be an arm wrestle tie breaker?

[BelgradeBobcat]

What is the Big Sky vs summit challenge at? Is there going to be an arm wrestle tie breaker?

[Bobcat4Ever]

They aren't going to win today but I'm impressed that the Cats have been able to keep this one competitive throughout on the road without Limardo on the floor. SDSU beat NAU on the road in double OT on Wednesday and is a perennial power in the Summit League. Go Cats!

NAU, of course, using two of our ex-players as starters.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Is anyone watching this on TV? From the radio call it sounds like the Jacks are getting some home cooking. It also seems like the Cats are struggling on both ends of the floor.

I’m watching. SDSU not called for some fouls on shots under the basket, but not terrible. Lindsey Hein was effective, but picked up two quick legitimate fouls. Being down three planned beginning of year starters in Dylan Philip, Lexi Deden, and KJ Limardo against a team that usually is a ranked mid-major — we’re just short of experience and firepower. But not out of talent. Malia Egan looks good and unafraid of being a freshman. Etc. Etc. But we are probably once again playing one of the youngest lineups in the NCAA. And that’s leading to more fouls being called. Their very strong point guard tends to barrel headlong into double teams and somehow draws the foul even though she initiates the contact. I’ve never understood that call …

Thanks for the perspective. I appreciate it!

Good comments BC4E, coach Binford said much the same about her team. She added compliments for Johnson and Janssen as well. Man everyone of these freshman players are showing they have good skills and show no fear of going against older stronger players.
I sure hope Limardo is good to go soon, like on the 11th against NAU.

Love the commentary, Joe. To understand Bobcat hoops, Bobcat4Ever, Belgrade Bobcat, and BobcatDel are the go-tos. Of course, BC4E has a great historical perspective, having been a contemporary of Cat Thompson.

I apologize for my lack of mention of Ella Johnson, along with Malia. Ella showed very well again tonight. A very mobile 6’2” and perhaps a little stronger than some. She’s a good one!

P.S. I knew Cat Thompson, but not well, what with him being a few years younger.

[Bobcat4Ever]

This is sad to watch. We look like we're playing the original dream team. I knew we'd be overmatched but not this bad. We play no defense, can't run an offense, athleticism isn't even comparable. Earlier in the year I got blasted for saying we have high school talent. I stand by that statement. No fault of coach Logie's but this sucks.

Your statement that they have high school talent was and is complete ******. They have bottom third D-1 talent and their results indicate that. Today is a terrible game indeed.

The starters hung pretty well at first, and when they were all back in the game together before halftime (against some SDSU bench) they put up some points pretty quickly. But the ‘Cat bench really had nothing tonight. What has happened to Olmsted? Thought he might make an appearance with their 7-footer towering over our “bigs.”

[technoCat]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

I disagree. Sprinkle doesn't owe anything to MSU. He did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I don't think it's fair to fault him for that, even though it's hard on Bobcat fans. I'm watching Coach Sprinkle's Aggies giving number 13 Colorado State all they can handle and it's fun to see him, Osobor, and Brown have success.

I'm not even really in the "blame Sprinkle for the decline of the program" camp but this kind of thinking perplexed me. If we as fans can't expect an alum that supposedly came back because he loves his school so much and wanted to return us to prominence, to have any more loyalty than to treat us like a stepping stone, why the hell should any of us give a crap about this team. Just saying if you want loyalty from the fans and butts in the seats when it's rough, don't be surprised when people see coaches and players dumping us for "greener pastures" that they aren’t thrilled.

[BozoneCat]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

I disagree. Sprinkle doesn't owe anything to MSU. He did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I don't think it's fair to fault him for that, even though it's hard on Bobcat fans. I'm watching Coach Sprinkle's Aggies giving number 13 Colorado State all they can handle and it's fun to see him, Osobor, and Brown have success.

I'm not even really in the "blame Sprinkle for the decline of the program" camp but this kind of thinking perplexed me. If we as fans can't expect an alum that supposedly came back because he loves his school so much and wanted to return us to prominence, to have any more loyalty than to treat us like a stepping stone, why the hell should any of us give a crap about this team. Just saying if you want loyalty from the fans and butts in the seats when it's rough, don't be surprised when people see coaches and players dumping us for "greener pastures" that they aren’t thrilled.

You're both right, unfortunately. I don't know what the solution is?

[MSU01]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

I disagree. Sprinkle doesn't owe anything to MSU. He did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I don't think it's fair to fault him for that, even though it's hard on Bobcat fans. I'm watching Coach Sprinkle's Aggies giving number 13 Colorado State all they can handle and it's fun to see him, Osobor, and Brown have success.

I'm not even really in the "blame Sprinkle for the decline of the program" camp but this kind of thinking perplexed me. If we as fans can't expect an alum that supposedly came back because he loves his school so much and wanted to return us to prominence, to have any more loyalty than to treat us like a stepping stone, why the hell should any of us give a crap about this team. Just saying if you want loyalty from the fans and butts in the seats when it's rough, don't be surprised when people see coaches and players dumping us for "greener pastures" that they aren’t thrilled.

You're both right, unfortunately. I don't know what the solution is?

I can think of two solutions.

1) Hire coaches who aren't as good as Danny and therefore don't attract any interest from bigger schools. I'll pass on Option 1.
2) Move up to a better conference and be able to be more competitive in the ability to pay and retain talented coaches. I like this option personally, just don't mention it on the football board where everyone seems dead set against moving up so that MSU can still have a shot to win the Dakota/Montana Invitational Tournament...er, I mean the FCS Playoffs.

[rfischer94]

I still have a problem with Sprinkle taking our players with him. I know, I know, it's anything goes in today's college landscape, but if I was Sprinkle it would really bother me to know that I left my alma mater in the condition MSU is in this year.

I disagree. Sprinkle doesn't owe anything to MSU. He did what he thought was best for him and his family, and I don't think it's fair to fault him for that, even though it's hard on Bobcat fans. I'm watching Coach Sprinkle's Aggies giving number 13 Colorado State all they can handle and it's fun to see him, Osobor, and Brown have success.

I'm not even really in the "blame Sprinkle for the decline of the program" camp but this kind of thinking perplexed me. If we as fans can't expect an alum that supposedly came back because he loves his school so much and wanted to return us to prominence, to have any more loyalty than to treat us like a stepping stone, why the hell should any of us give a crap about this team. Just saying if you want loyalty from the fans and butts in the seats when it's rough, don't be surprised when people see coaches and players dumping us for "greener pastures" that they aren’t thrilled.

I hadn't thought of it that way. I appreciate the perspective. I guess I'm going to focus on what I can control, which is supporting the team.