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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:14 pm

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It certainly looked dirty to me. There is no reason that no. 13 had to foul KJ that hard. All she had to do was grab her. Instead, she wrapped one arm around her neck and shoulders and pretty much threw her to the ground with her momentum. May not have been intentional, but it was totally unnecessary.
Precisely. Totally unnecessary. Pure frustration. I’m so sorry for KJ, who would never return such a favor. She’ll just beat you. This Bobcat team is a treasure.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:23 pm

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If i was the Gris coach i would have sat #13 after that. No reason for her to be in there after that, with only 12 seconds to play.
I agree. Krista “I played for Robin Selvig” Redpath had been babbling about the hostile crowd. Ha! #13 would have been booed out of the place by a hostile crowd. Does anyone remember the night when Alex Jensen undercut Danny Sprinkle on a fast break layup and injured him? Alex got booed every time he touched the ball in Bozeman for as long as he played there.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by RickRund » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:25 pm

Easily a two second time span from the time she got the rebound to when she was taken down. If she were a qb and there was a two second time frame and a defensive player roughed the passer... What would the call be?
And the speed of the play was not fast. More than enough time to just touch Limardo for an intentional foul, not a FLAGRANT foul. The gris coach should have immediately sat her.


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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:29 pm

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Really scary. KJ gets knocked to floor a lot and always bounces up. She’s tougher than she looks and has been one of our most durable players. Her parents were there which is a blessing. Imagine watching your kid get carted off and you’re a 1000 miles away. Thinking of them and KJ right now.
It looked like they waited for a stretcher that had a special device for holding her head still. Hope it’s just a stinger, but I fear a disk or vertebra injury. Praying for you, KJ. Heart of a Bobcat.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by MSU01 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:01 pm

Great news! Now let's get the sweep.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by autocat » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:19 pm

Thankfully she’s ok =D^


Help me out, was Berry dressed, in street clothes?



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by MSU01 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:20 pm

autocat wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:19 pm
Thankfully she’s ok =D^


Help me out, was Berry dressed, in street clothes?
Berry played off the bench and scored 2 points.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:20 pm

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Thankfully she’s ok =D^


Help me out, was Berry dressed, in street clothes?
She played sparingly. two points.


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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:21 pm

MadJackHall tho. What a game. Reminded me of Kobe vs Celtics in Game 7. Didn't shoot great, but just kept working and working.


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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by TCcat 84 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:22 pm

Kj is such a dynamic player, on both ends of the court. Another double double this afternoon. Such a warrior.
Also an impressive game, again, by MadJack. Love that kid all all she brings to Bobcat Basketball!



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by catscat » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:29 pm

Desert_Bobcat wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:55 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:29 pm
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Didn’t look like she hit her head. Looked more like a whiplash. It was a foul, but I didn’t think it was overtly or intentionally violent. Just an awkward fall.
This is correct. As someone who played, in that situation you are trying to stop the clock. It wasn’t malicious or dirty. However the intentional/flagrant was warranted.
100% agree. This wasn’t in the slightest bit dirty. It’s a hard foul, nothing more. Could it have warranted a flagrant, possibly. But I’m still in the camp of a hard foul.
The thing that makes it look more serious than it is (and 100% has to do with KJ being carted off the court due to injury) is the fact that she weighs about 65 pounds and could get blown away on a normal windy day in Livingston. There is zero muscle mass on the frame to protect or support her from a fall.
Nonetheless it’s a scary moment and you’re obviously hoping for the best. Injury bug is really starting to nip at their
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I'm gonna call BS on this. Limardo got the rebound and was momentarily standing there. The gris player, with a running start, grabbed her around the waist with one hand and upper torso neck area with the other and threw her to the floor. Unnecessary, flagrant, intentional and malicious. To top it off, comes off the floor smiling and laughing.


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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by HelenaCat » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:37 pm

Yes, I also saw her smiling on the sideline even after KJ had been down for several minutes. I am not a fan of her at all.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by MSUBRONCO » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:38 pm

my inside man just told me just a concussion



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by kcatz » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:44 pm

MSUBRONCO wrote:
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my inside man just told me just a concussion
Best case scenario. After what we saw and watched



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:44 pm

autocat wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:19 pm
Thankfully she’s ok =D^


Help me out, was Berry dressed, in street clothes?
You can see her in the picture above, #20.



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by MSUBRONCO » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:46 pm

kcatz wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:44 pm
MSUBRONCO wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:38 pm
my inside man just told me just a concussion
Best case scenario. After what we saw and watched
definitely



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by CatRowdy » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:49 pm

MSUBRONCO wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:38 pm
my inside man just told me just a concussion
and just how reliable is your 'inside' man?



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by MSUBRONCO » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:51 pm

CatRowdy wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:49 pm
MSUBRONCO wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:38 pm
my inside man just told me just a concussion
and just how reliable is your 'inside' man?
enough that I believe him. He talks with players and coaches sometimes don't want to say too much in case for him if was supposed to keep quiet



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Re: WBB vs UofM

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:01 pm

First off, I am extremely thankful that Katelynn will be okay. That was one of the worst moments in my 70+ years of being a Bobcat fan[atic]. So terrifying for KJ and her parents — good that they were there.

There is an absolutely great picture of the takedown by #13 on Skyline Sports (on X). In it you can see:

— The gris has both feet off the floor. The direction of her flying ponytail shows the direction of her momentum which is into KJ and down at quite an angle.
— Her eyes are closed, anticipating the contact. Hard to see the ball with your eyes closed.
— She has just raked KJ across the face with her left hand which is now clamped onto KJ’s left wrist.
— Her right arm is wrapped around KJ’s waist.
— Hard to tell but it looks the official on the far side is reaching toward the wreck.
— KJ hung onto the ball and resisted as hard as she could with her legs, before taking a horrible crash on her back with #13 still partially attached to her.
— In the TV view #13 appears to indicate out-of-bounds for the gris.

That’s what the picture shows and I’m going to call it (not knowing the WBB rules) a flagrant two with ejection (which should include a suspension). I’ve never seen one of Coach Bin’s players ever do anything similar. Basketball is a non-padded sport.

Go, ‘Cats! Katelynn, get well soon. We’re happy you are a ‘Cat. The announcers said at the beginning of the game that Katelynn chose MSU (she had plenty of choices) because she’d get to participate in a rivalry with an involved fan base. 💙 💛 😺



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