WBB vs UofM

[CatRowdy]

There is another foul by #13 in 1st half against Maddie Hall. You can see her bring her right hand across and shove Maddie down via her shoulder. She's trying to put players on the court. I hope her # comes up on referee discussions so they start watching her closer.

[kcatz]

Is #13 their transfer from Iowa State?
I haven't heard the name before and too lazy to look up the griz roster to verify

[cat22[2010]]

Disappointed no well wishes for KJ on any of the UM social media accounts.

People associated with dUMb laughing about KJ getting hurt on social media and you are expecting any class out of UM?

[nevadacat]

Is #13 their transfer from Iowa State?
I haven't heard the name before and too lazy to look up the griz roster to verify

Yes.

[CatRowdy]

Is #13 their transfer from Iowa State?
I haven't heard the name before and too lazy to look up the griz roster to verify

Yes, maggie espenmiller-mcgraw. 5th year senior from Iowa state.
Watching the replays there are a number of fouls she commits and takes further than necessary

[Desert_Bobcat]

Didn’t look like she hit her head. Looked more like a whiplash. It was a foul, but I didn’t think it was overtly or intentionally violent. Just an awkward fall.

This is correct. As someone who played, in that situation you are trying to stop the clock. It wasn’t malicious or dirty. However the intentional/flagrant was warranted.

100% agree. This wasn’t in the slightest bit dirty. It’s a hard foul, nothing more. Could it have warranted a flagrant, possibly. But I’m still in the camp of a hard foul.
The thing that makes it look more serious than it is (and 100% has to do with KJ being carted off the court due to injury) is the fact that she weighs about 65 pounds and could get blown away on a normal windy day in Livingston. There is zero muscle mass on the frame to protect or support her from a fall.
Nonetheless it’s a scary moment and you’re obviously hoping for the best. Injury bug is really starting to nip at their
heels

I'm gonna call BS on this. Limardo got the rebound and was momentarily standing there. The gris player, with a running start, grabbed her around the waist with one hand and upper torso neck area with the other and threw her to the floor. Unnecessary, flagrant, intentional and malicious. To top it off, comes off the floor smiling and laughing.

You’re entitled to your opinion just like I am mine
At the end of the day the call was the call and lady cats got the W. When you’re in a must foul like the Griz were in, you’re thinking foul any way possible not how you’re going to foul them. A physical player is going to foul physically and vise versa.
KJ is going to be okay and that’s the most important thing

[Colter_Nuanez]

Resilient Bobcats overcome Limardo scare, other injuries, pull away from Lady Griz
https://skylinesportsmt.com/cat-griz-wo ... ber-story/

[Colter_Nuanez]

[wbtfg]

Just me or did anyone else think I t was weird that none of the Griz players came over to wish her well and there were some shots of laughing and joking on the bench while KJ was down being attended to by paramedics. Also, still no will wishes on social media.


The Griz athletics site says “After a Montana miss on a 3-point attempt with 18 seconds left that could have tied the score, Montana State's Katelynn Limardo ended up crashing to the floor.” No mention of the flagrant foul that sent her crashing to the floor.

To holsinger’s credit, he did have a nice quote in that article

"Great competitor, great kid," said Holsinger. "I hope she's okay. Scary, obviously. You never want to see anyone get hurt. My thoughts and prayers that she's okay."

[Bobcat4Ever]

@Colter_Nuanez Big congratulations on the spectacular photo from Skyline Sports that shows the apex of the “intentional” foul against Katelynn Limardo. It clearly shows the tackler’s feet off the ground, KJ held and wrapped up, and #13’s eyes are closed! There is no place for that in basketball and that picture documents it perfectly. Kudos to your photographer. Award winner.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Is #13 their transfer from Iowa State?
I haven't heard the name before and too lazy to look up the griz roster to verify

Yes, maggie espenmiller-mcgraw. 5th year senior from Iowa state.
Watching the replays there are a number of fouls she commits and takes further than necessary

We also saw the throw-down of Madison Hall that should have been whistled immediately and dealt with. Just a matter of time until one of her victims goes to the hospital and is not okay. Her coach clearly approves. How does she get away with it? No wonder she was not invited back to Iowa State.

[91catAlum]

Just me or did anyone else think I t was weird that none of the Griz players came over to wish her well and there were some shots of laughing and joking on the bench while KJ was down being attended to by paramedics. Also, still no will wishes on social media.

Ya that would've been nice to see, especially for the griz player who did it to go over and say "sorry about that, hope you're OK" type thing.
Nope.

[MSU01]

I thought the Griz team handled the injury situation just fine. I doubt that Katelynn had any desire to have the player who just injured her come over to her while she was down on the ground. She received support from those most important to her, her family and team. We also don't know what communication may have occurred between the players and teams privately after the game.

[lutecat]

Disappointed no well wishes for KJ on any of the UM social media accounts.

People associated with dUMb laughing about KJ getting hurt on social media and you are expecting any class out of UM?

Such as who? I'd like to see the tweets.

[TheJoeGoldstone]

I thought the Griz team handled the injury situation just fine. I doubt that Katelynn had any desire to have the player who just injured her come over to her while she was down on the ground. She received support from those most important to her, her family and team. We also don't know what communication may have occurred between the players and teams privately after the game.

I couldn’t disagree more. Sportsmanship, let alone any person with class who committed a foul like that, dictates you go over immediately and apologize, period. AND you don’t laugh & joke with your teammates while your opponent is flat on the floor receiving medical attention for a possible serious spine/neck injury.

[MSU01]

I thought the Griz team handled the injury situation just fine. I doubt that Katelynn had any desire to have the player who just injured her come over to her while she was down on the ground. She received support from those most important to her, her family and team. We also don't know what communication may have occurred between the players and teams privately after the game.

I couldn’t disagree more. Sportsmanship, let alone any person with class who committed a foul like that, dictates you go over immediately and apologize, period. AND you don’t laugh & joke with your teammates while your opponent is flat on the floor receiving medical attention for a possible serious spine/neck injury.

You don't "go over and apologize" when a player is lying on the floor getting medical treatment for a potentially severe injury. There was laughing going on on the MSU huddle as well, people react to stressful situations in different ways. We should all be happy Katelynn is going to be ok and there's no point in overanalyzing everything that happened to find something to take offense at. Just my opinion.

[91catAlum]

I thought the Griz team handled the injury situation just fine. I doubt that Katelynn had any desire to have the player who just injured her come over to her while she was down on the ground. She received support from those most important to her, her family and team. We also don't know what communication may have occurred between the players and teams privately after the game.

I couldn’t disagree more. Sportsmanship, let alone any person with class who committed a foul like that, dictates you go over immediately and apologize, period. AND you don’t laugh & joke with your teammates while your opponent is flat on the floor receiving medical attention for a possible serious spine/neck injury.

You don't "go over and apologize" when a player is lying on the floor getting medical treatment for a potentially severe injury. There was laughing going on on the MSU huddle as well, people react to stressful situations in different ways. We should all be happy Katelynn is going to be ok and there's no point in overanalyzing everything that happened to find something to take offense at. Just my opinion.

It would've been nice if she had gone over and said something as the stretcher was being carted off the court. In fact that's the norm when this type of thing happens. You see it in the NFL and most sports when a serious injury happens and a player is being carted off the field or court. Players from both teams are giving knuckles to, or giving best wishes to, the injured player.

[tetoncat]

I thought the Griz team handled the injury situation just fine. I doubt that Katelynn had any desire to have the player who just injured her come over to her while she was down on the ground. She received support from those most important to her, her family and team. We also don't know what communication may have occurred between the players and teams privately after the game.

I couldn’t disagree more. Sportsmanship, let alone any person with class who committed a foul like that, dictates you go over immediately and apologize, period. AND you don’t laugh & joke with your teammates while your opponent is flat on the floor receiving medical attention for a possible serious spine/neck injury.

You don't "go over and apologize" when a player is lying on the floor getting medical treatment for a potentially severe injury. There was laughing going on on the MSU huddle as well, people react to stressful situations in different ways. We should all be happy Katelynn is going to be ok and there's no point in overanalyzing everything that happened to find something to take offense at. Just my opinion.

Guess definition of being okay will somewhat be determined on how many games she misses. And that impact on the team. Hard fouls when you have to at end of game typically still are a grab or hard swipes at ball. The still photo definitely shows more than that.
Definitely an intentional could be flagrant 1. Probably not a 2 because lack of direct contact to head.

[rivercat]

Glad to hear KJ will be okay and personally thought the foul was excessive but not "dirty". It's too bad that that is all that is being talked about here because that was an absolutely fabulous win by the Cats against a veteran, favored rival. The win was led by the seniors that were never going to lose to the gris on their home court. It was a gritty performance by the young players, many who are first year freshmen. Binford out-coached Holsinger. The lady gris came out with a successful game plan but were soon shut down by the defensive changes made by the Cats. It was a great crowd experience and one of those Cat gris games that I will remember for a long time.

[MSU01]

I thought the Griz team handled the injury situation just fine. I doubt that Katelynn had any desire to have the player who just injured her come over to her while she was down on the ground. She received support from those most important to her, her family and team. We also don't know what communication may have occurred between the players and teams privately after the game.

I couldn’t disagree more. Sportsmanship, let alone any person with class who committed a foul like that, dictates you go over immediately and apologize, period. AND you don’t laugh & joke with your teammates while your opponent is flat on the floor receiving medical attention for a possible serious spine/neck injury.

You don't "go over and apologize" when a player is lying on the floor getting medical treatment for a potentially severe injury. There was laughing going on on the MSU huddle as well, people react to stressful situations in different ways. We should all be happy Katelynn is going to be ok and there's no point in overanalyzing everything that happened to find something to take offense at. Just my opinion.

Guess definition of being okay will somewhat be determined on how many games she misses. And that impact on the team. Hard fouls when you have to at end of game typically still are a grab or hard swipes at ball. The still photo definitely shows more than that.
Definitely an intentional could be flagrant 1. Probably not a 2 because lack of direct contact to head.

I agree, and was referring to Katelynn being physically ok rather than her potentially missing games, which is pretty much a guarantee if she does have a concussion. It will undoubtedly have an impact on the team, although they've lucked out with the upcoming schedule playing at ISU tomorrow followed by home games against PSU and Sac who are both winless in conference play.