Indoor facility

[grizzh8r]

Ok Tom, you are too subtle for this crowd. I find your use of IPB quite hilarious.

B as building, amirite?

Of course. What else starts with B that is inflatable? Yeah, must be Building.

I was thinking more a cross between a bubble and a facility…a…

Funny, I was thinking the b stood for barn....

Or Beavis

[lutecat]

Good thing dUMb's enrollment is not increasing, parking there has to be a total nightmare. Doesn't look that good for tailgating either.

Is their IPB taking up parking space?

No, the IPF IS located where the practice fields were before. Last fall construction took away some tailgate spaces but they should be opened back up this season. Im told there are plans to build a new parking garage when they start the new dorms.

Why is it taking so long to build a bubble? If some tailgate spots were taken away by the construction they've been at it for some time. I drove by about a month ago and they have lights up for a parking lot, it looks like? And curbs. But I didn't see anything that led me to believe it was almost done.

[lutecat]

Brother, I coulda used an indoor facility overnight. She got down to 28 this morning in my Loserbago (my version of a van down by the river). Lovin me some Town Pump coffee now tho. Alls well.

Get better coffee from another gas station. Lol
At Thriftway you can get a real espresso. Bean to cup. Real milk. Real syrup. Latte. Mocha. Macchiato. $2.99. That's where my stop is.

[lutecat]

Good thing dUMb's enrollment is not increasing, parking there has to be a total nightmare. Doesn't look that good for tailgating either.

Is their IPB taking up parking space?

No, the IPF IS located where the practice fields were before. Last fall construction took away some tailgate spaces but they should be opened back up this season. Im told there are plans to build a new parking garage when they start the new dorms.

New dorms and parking garage? Did a dorm get condemned? It is clearly not expansion due to growth. Where is that funding coming from?

Funding for the dorms would be done just like MSU funded theirs, student room and board fees.

Funding for the parking garage would be paid by money generated from pay parking and permits.

MSU and UM are two completely different scenarios. MSU dorms were at or near full capacity so justifying additional facilities is easy given the demand. No question that future revenues will fund the new facilities.

UM is the exact opposite. They have facilities that are not being used, so they build new facilities? Hmmm…. Seems that it will only make the tenants of the old dorms gravitate to the new dorm making the old dorms even less attractive.

As for the parking structure, UM once handled 12,000+ students. Now they are at half that and need new parking? If the new IPF took away parking and created a need for new parking, that is a really bad planning process. Sounds like poor project management to me. And are these new parking fees (revenue to find the project) just being caniballized from another spot on campus? That is not new revenue generation. It is just moving money from the left pocket to the right pocket.

If you've never been in some of the dorms in Missoula they were old 20 years ago. Jesse Hall is the one I've been in. Not anything a kid these days would want to live in. I think I read that at least 2? Of the dorms were converted to offices a few years ago. So take out 2/3 dorms and you're at 95% capacity as was mentioned. I'll take his word for the capacity. I don't know otherwise. Then you get to build yourself a brand new dorm that kids will be more likely to live in. I have no comment on the parking garage because I haven't heard anything to speak on that.

[TomCat88]

Brother, I coulda used an indoor facility overnight. She got down to 28 this morning in my Loserbago (my version of a van down by the river). Lovin me some Town Pump coffee now tho. Alls well.

Get better coffee from another gas station. Lol
At Thriftway you can get a real espresso. Bean to cup. Real milk. Real syrup. Latte. Mocha. Macchiato. $2.99. That's where my stop is.

$2.99!! Us Loserbago folk ain’t got no $2.99 for no coffee. But, seriously, thanks for the tip!

[iaafan]

Ok Tom, you are too subtle for this crowd. I find your use of IPB quite hilarious.

B as building, amirite?

Of course. What else starts with B that is inflatable? Yeah, must be Building.

I was thinking more a cross between a bubble and a facility…a…

Funny, I was thinking the b stood for barn....

Or Beavis

Indoor Practice Bubibilty.

Coach: Mr Bubbles

Janitors will no doubt use Scrubbing Bubbles

🫧 🫧 🫧

[AFCAT]

Ok Tom, you are too subtle for this crowd. I find your use of IPB quite hilarious.

B as building, amirite?

Of course. What else starts with B that is inflatable? Yeah, must be Building.

I was thinking more a cross between a bubble and a facility…a…

Funny, I was thinking the b stood for barn....

Or Beavis

Indoor Practice Bubibilty.

Coach: Mr Bubbles

Janitors will no doubt use Scrubbing Bubbles

🫧 🫧 🫧

Speaking of bubbles. Apparently, MSU is going to keep at least the large bubble around for a while longer. After the fitness center is completed, the large bubble will have artificial turf installed and the football team can use it for practice until their indoor is completed. Intramural sports can also use the indoor bubble.

[Cataholic]

Good thing dUMb's enrollment is not increasing, parking there has to be a total nightmare. Doesn't look that good for tailgating either.

Is their IPB taking up parking space?

No, the IPF IS located where the practice fields were before. Last fall construction took away some tailgate spaces but they should be opened back up this season. Im told there are plans to build a new parking garage when they start the new dorms.

New dorms and parking garage? Did a dorm get condemned? It is clearly not expansion due to growth. Where is that funding coming from?

Funding for the dorms would be done just like MSU funded theirs, student room and board fees.

Funding for the parking garage would be paid by money generated from pay parking and permits.

MSU and UM are two completely different scenarios. MSU dorms were at or near full capacity so justifying additional facilities is easy given the demand. No question that future revenues will fund the new facilities.

UM is the exact opposite. They have facilities that are not being used, so they build new facilities? Hmmm…. Seems that it will only make the tenants of the old dorms gravitate to the new dorm making the old dorms even less attractive.

As for the parking structure, UM once handled 12,000+ students. Now they are at half that and need new parking? If the new IPF took away parking and created a need for new parking, that is a really bad planning process. Sounds like poor project management to me. And are these new parking fees (revenue to find the project) just being caniballized from another spot on campus? That is not new revenue generation. It is just moving money from the left pocket to the right pocket.

Take off your blue and yellow glasses every once in a while and stop being such a hater. On campus housing is currently near 95% capacity and demand will continue to increase due to rising Missoula rental prices. The new dorm will have greater capacity than the 3 dormitories being replaced. Once construction is completed, the old dorms will be torn down, freeing up space for future campus construction projects. The MMAC eliminated many parking spaces in Lot P and the new dorm will take up much of the parking lot near Pantzer, thus the need for a new parking garage.

Here is what I had originally posted:

New dorms and parking garage? Did a dorm get condemned? It is clearly not expansion due to growth. Where is that funding coming from?

Nothing in that statement is wrong. If new dorms are being built, it is not because of growth. And your 95% occupancy is terribly misleading. It is like condemning half of the a 20,000 seat stadium, and then claiming a sellout when you sell 10,000 seats.

And AFCAT said the new dorms and parking are funded by new revenues. That is very difficult if you don’t have growth. Without growth, how do you generate increased revenues with the same number of students? You increase fees - or you get subsidized by a different source like the state. If you increase fees, it could lead to lower enrollment.

UM has been having a hard time financially with layoffs and struggling enrollment as the theme for years. Now they are building new structures and taking on debt? Maybe a new dorm will attract more students, but it would seem that more marketable degrees would be a critical component to growth.

And the MMAC (Montana Museum of Arts and Culture) taking up critical parking creating a need for a new parking structure is bad planning. And the new dorm is taking up parking, now creating a need for a new parking structure? All while enrollment has been stagnant and the university is struggling? So yes, this does sound like bad planning.

[TomCat88]

Ok Tom, you are too subtle for this crowd. I find your use of IPB quite hilarious.

B as building, amirite?

Of course. What else starts with B that is inflatable? Yeah, must be Building.

I was thinking more a cross between a bubble and a facility…a…

Funny, I was thinking the b stood for barn....

Or Beavis

Indoor Practice Bubibilty.

Coach: Mr Bubbles

Janitors will no doubt use Scrubbing Bubbles

🫧 🫧 🫧

Speaking of bubbles. Apparently, MSU is going to keep at least the large bubble around for a while longer. After the fitness center is completed, the large bubble will have artificial turf installed and the football team can use it for practice until their indoor is completed. Intramural sports can also use the indoor bubble.

I had no idea that thing was that big. Any idea how big it is? 250' X 100'?

[AFCAT]

Ok Tom, you are too subtle for this crowd. I find your use of IPB quite hilarious.

B as building, amirite?

Of course. What else starts with B that is inflatable? Yeah, must be Building.

I was thinking more a cross between a bubble and a facility…a…

Funny, I was thinking the b stood for barn....

Or Beavis

Indoor Practice Bubibilty.

Coach: Mr Bubbles

Janitors will no doubt use Scrubbing Bubbles

🫧 🫧 🫧

Speaking of bubbles. Apparently, MSU is going to keep at least the large bubble around for a while longer. After the fitness center is completed, the large bubble will have artificial turf installed and the football team can use it for practice until their indoor is completed. Intramural sports can also use the indoor bubble.

I had no idea that thing was that big. Any idea how big it is? 250' X 100'?

Not sure of the overall square footage (60,000 square feet combined in both domes though), but they do have four full size basketball courts in that big Dome. Technically, if the cats get turf in there soon, they would have beaten um in having an indoor practice facility.

Live look at the gris fan board at that news.





You can see the footprint on this map in comparison to Bobcat Stadium. North Temp Gym is the big dome.

[St George]

Good thing dUMb's enrollment is not increasing, parking there has to be a total nightmare. Doesn't look that good for tailgating either.

Is their IPB taking up parking space?

No, the IPF IS located where the practice fields were before. Last fall construction took away some tailgate spaces but they should be opened back up this season. Im told there are plans to build a new parking garage when they start the new dorms.

Why is it taking so long to build a bubble? If some tailgate spots were taken away by the construction they've been at it for some time. I drove by about a month ago and they have lights up for a parking lot, it looks like? And curbs. But I didn't see anything that led me to believe it was almost done.

Do you know how many people have to chew enough gum to cover an entire football field? Are they going to name it Bazooka Field?

[TomCat88]

Ok Tom, you are too subtle for this crowd. I find your use of IPB quite hilarious.

B as building, amirite?

Of course. What else starts with B that is inflatable? Yeah, must be Building.

I was thinking more a cross between a bubble and a facility…a…

Funny, I was thinking the b stood for barn....

Or Beavis

Indoor Practice Bubibilty.

Coach: Mr Bubbles

Janitors will no doubt use Scrubbing Bubbles

🫧 🫧 🫧

Speaking of bubbles. Apparently, MSU is going to keep at least the large bubble around for a while longer. After the fitness center is completed, the large bubble will have artificial turf installed and the football team can use it for practice until their indoor is completed. Intramural sports can also use the indoor bubble.

I had no idea that thing was that big. Any idea how big it is? 250' X 100'?

Not sure of the overall square footage (60,000 square feet combined in both domes though), but they do have four full size basketball courts in that big Dome. Technically, if the cats get turf in there soon, they would have beaten um in having an indoor practice facility.

Live look at the gris fan board at that news.





You can see the footprint on this map in comparison to Bobcat Stadium. North Temp Gym is the big dome.

Appears to be wider than the football field and at least 70 yards long.

[lutecat]

Brother, I coulda used an indoor facility overnight. She got down to 28 this morning in my Loserbago (my version of a van down by the river). Lovin me some Town Pump coffee now tho. Alls well.

Get better coffee from another gas station. Lol
At Thriftway you can get a real espresso. Bean to cup. Real milk. Real syrup. Latte. Mocha. Macchiato. $2.99. That's where my stop is.

$2.99!! Us Loserbago folk ain’t got no $2.99 for no coffee. But, seriously, thanks for the tip!

I should clarify they charge 2.99 for fancy coffee if you don't want to pay 7 bucks at Starbucks. But normal coffee is normal coffee prices.

[TomCat88]

Brother, I coulda used an indoor facility overnight. She got down to 28 this morning in my Loserbago (my version of a van down by the river). Lovin me some Town Pump coffee now tho. Alls well.

Get better coffee from another gas station. Lol
At Thriftway you can get a real espresso. Bean to cup. Real milk. Real syrup. Latte. Mocha. Macchiato. $2.99. That's where my stop is.

$2.99!! Us Loserbago folk ain’t got no $2.99 for no coffee. But, seriously, thanks for the tip!

I should clarify they charge 2.99 for fancy coffee if you don't want to pay 7 bucks at Starbucks. But normal coffee is normal coffee prices.

Okay my last post on this with an apology for getting so off topic:

Thanks for the coffee info. I’ll be in kalispell this week in my Loserbago, so I’ll look for a Thriftway there.

[TomCat88]

Now back to the IPF: I saw the Sime Construction excavator out at the site last week. Looks like they did a revision to the pond in preparation for the IPF. I think the funding for that may have come out of a different pot (general funds?), however, since no announcement has been made. Then again, the official announcement may just be waiting for a press conference to be set up that fits the schedule of all the principals. I really don’t know.

[RICO CAT]

Now back to the IPF: I saw the Sime Construction excavator out at the site last week. Looks like they did a revision to the pond in preparation for the IPF. I think the funding for that may have come out of a different pot (general funds?), however, since no announcement has been made. Then again, the official announcement may just be waiting for a press conference to be set up that fits the schedule of all the principals. I really don’t know.

This would be my guess as well. I believe fundraising is still occurring as there has been no announcement of any kind after making it clear it must be 100% funded before ground breaking. I just hope the needle is still moving.

[TomCat88]

Now back to the IPF: I saw the Sime Construction excavator out at the site last week. Looks like they did a revision to the pond in preparation for the IPF. I think the funding for that may have come out of a different pot (general funds?), however, since no announcement has been made. Then again, the official announcement may just be waiting for a press conference to be set up that fits the schedule of all the principals. I really don’t know.

This would be my guess as well. I believe fundraising is still occurring as there has been no announcement of any kind after making it clear it must be 100% funded before ground breaking. I just hope the needle is still moving.

I think fundraising might be done. But I think the website still has it listed and I’d think it would be pulled if it’s still there. PhatCat hasn’t been wrong about this stuff though so … ???

[PHAT CAT]

The utility locate girl is up marking for construction excavation to proceed. You only do that, when your ready to get after it.

[D-Wreck]

The utility locate girl is up marking for construction excavation to proceed. You only do that, when your ready to get after it.

You should really call 811 before any digging, getting after it or not.

[allcat]

The utility locate girl is up marking for construction excavation to proceed. You only do that, when your ready to get after it.

You should really call 811 before any digging, getting after it or not.

Well I'm not sure why he should call, he's just commenting on the work. And don't call me Shirley.