Fall Camp

[wbtfg]

Has there be a practice schedule come out yet?

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Sorry Colter, my practice schedule post bumped to the next page and buried your post. Bumping this back up to the new page, as it's far more interesting than my question about a schedule.

[AFCAT]

[GoCats18]

Can we just start the season this weekend??

[Colter_Nuanez]

Has there be a practice schedule come out yet?

THU Aug 8 #12 *9:40 am/full closed none

FRI Aug 9 #13 *9:15 am/none Full practice none

SAT Aug 10 #14 10:40 am/scrim Closed Coach Vigen (at BAC lobby)

SUN Aug 11 No practice

MON Aug 12 #15 *9:30 am/half Full practice selected players (at Lambert Field)

TUE Aug 13 #16 *9:30 am/full closed none

WED Aug 14 #17 10:15 am/none Full practice selected players (at BAC lobby)

THU Aug 15 #18 *9:30 am/half closed none

FRI Aug 16 #19 *9:30 am/full Full practice Coach Vigen (at Lambert Field)

SAT Aug 17 #20 mock game closed none

SUN Aug 18 No practice

MON Aug 19 Game Week Selected players after practice, Vigen Press Conference

[Colter_Nuanez]

[BelligerentBobcat]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

[Colter_Nuanez]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

[coloradocat]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

To reframe BelligerentBobcat's third question to be more specific: What starter quality QB that doesn't already have a close history with Vigen or any other current Bobcat offensive coach is going to drop down to the FCS to be, at best, QB1B?

Sure, it would be great to get a plug and play transfer QB that would be fine playing the role of 'Big Cat' in the best of circumstances but that's not realistic. It's enough of an ego hit for an FBS QB to drop down in the first place. It's almost impossible to find one that will drop down into a team where he's guaranteed not to start (MSU was never going to bring in a transfer to take Tommy's job, including in Sean's situation). Our best hope would have been to get a really good FCS QB from a bad team that wanted to be part of a winning culture and an chance to shine if the opportunity presented itself, knowing that it might not.

[coloradocat]

@Colter_Nuanez Another question for your show/podcasts: What is the Bobcats' ceiling if they don't fix their kicking issues?

[BelligerentBobcat]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

Thanks for the response!

1) I would counter that you can’t become ready until you’re put in a position to be ready. If they continually bring in transfer QB’s, they won’t develop the ones they recruit. I actually think Bobby is a perfect example of this. Ah Yat could be the first QB that goes from HS recruit to starter since…Bergquist?

2) If you say that Fife isn’t ready, and that Reed isn’t ready, it hardly seems fair to say that MSU/Vigen was irresponsible in their QB room. I actually think the situations are similar, both universities have inexperienced backups but one could argue that MSU has more in terms of experience due to longevity, and it’s not like Reed, Wilson, and Duchien are lacking in talent. To clarify, I don’t have a problem with saying Reed isn’t ready, more in how you framed it. MSU was irresponsible because they didn’t bring in a transfer? By logic, is Hauck not irresponsible because he largely refuses to get quality HS QB recruits or allow them to develop? Yet you don’t use that kind of language with Hauck. Just my observation.

3) Chambers came to play for his former OC/QB coach after he got benched at Wyoming. It was a different, and unique circumstance that isn’t easily replicated.

[GoldstoneCat]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

There was very little clarity from the coaching staff after spring about who the #2 qb was. Never a good sign. Chambers was unique in his connection to vigen, so finding another guy like that was not likely, but having somebody behind oft-injured Tommy who has played college snaps and can run an offense would be a good plan for a team with deep playoff aspirations.

[AFCAT]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

There was very little clarity from the coaching staff after spring about who the #2 qb was. Never a good sign. Chambers was unique in his connection to vigen, so finding another guy like that was not likely, but having somebody behind oft-injured Tommy who has played college snaps and can run an offense would be a good plan for a team with deep playoff aspirations.

I don’t know about that. After Tommy and Sean, Reed played most of the QB snaps during games last season. Reed was the starting White team QB opposite Tommy on the Blue team during the Sonny Holland game. I believe Reed threw more passes during all the Spring scrimmages than any other backup QB. Reed was listed as Tommy’s back-up on the depth chart at the start of Fall ball.

[TomCat88]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

There was very little clarity from the coaching staff after spring about who the #2 qb was. Never a good sign. Chambers was unique in his connection to vigen, so finding another guy like that was not likely, but having somebody behind oft-injured Tommy who has played college snaps and can run an offense would be a good plan for a team with deep playoff aspirations.

I don’t know about that. After Tommy and Sean, Reed played most of the QB snaps during games last season. Reed was the starting White team QB opposite Tommy on the Blue team during the Sonny Holland game. I believe Reed threw more passes during all the Spring scrimmages than any other backup QB. Reed was listed as Tommy’s back-up on the depth chart at the start of Fall ball.

Colter's right, there was very little clarity about who the backup will be, but some teams with deep playoff aspirations don't have clarity on who their No. 1 QB is. I'm not saying this as a slam on UM, just a fact, and it doesn't make MSU's situation any better. I don't know if SDSU or NDSU have a clear No. 2 either. I think NDSU has a guy but he's mostly just a runner. Both teams probably have highly decorated backups from their HS days, but then so does MSU and UM.

For some reason, people don't think Jordan Reed is capable after seeing him in a scrimmage despite how he played in actual games (albeit mop up) last season. I'm struggling with that. I don't know that Reed or anyone else is a guy that's going to "lead" a team to wins, but there's only one way to know that for sure. Most players that have it, you just don't know until they get in games. Some players (McGhee, for example) you know are good from the moment you see them get under center. That's rare though.

My guess is MSU looked for a QB, but unless they were able to find someone that was a can't miss prospect, they didn't think it would help their situation.

Mellott is oft injured. You can say since he's been injured a lot, he's going to get injured again. You can also say, that since he's been injured so much, he's due to not get injured. Neither one of those assumptions is anything more than that. Every team should have a good backup, regardless.

[AFCAT]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

There was very little clarity from the coaching staff after spring about who the #2 qb was. Never a good sign. Chambers was unique in his connection to vigen, so finding another guy like that was not likely, but having somebody behind oft-injured Tommy who has played college snaps and can run an offense would be a good plan for a team with deep playoff aspirations.

I don’t know about that. After Tommy and Sean, Reed played most of the QB snaps during games last season. Reed was the starting White team QB opposite Tommy on the Blue team during the Sonny Holland game. I believe Reed threw more passes during all the Spring scrimmages than any other backup QB. Reed was listed as Tommy’s back-up on the depth chart at the start of Fall ball.

Colter's right, there was very little clarity about who the backup will be, but some teams with deep playoff aspirations don't have clarity on who their No. 1 QB is. I'm not saying this as a slam on UM, just a fact, and it doesn't make MSU's situation any better. I don't know if SDSU or NDSU have a clear No. 2 either. I think NDSU has a guy but he's mostly just a runner. Both teams probably have highly decorated backups from their HS days, but then so does MSU and UM.

For some reason, people don't think Jordan Reed is capable after seeing him in a scrimmage despite how he played in actual games (albeit mop up) last season. I'm struggling with that. I don't know that Reed or anyone else is a guy that's going to "lead" a team to wins, but there's only one way to know that for sure. Most players that have it, you just don't know until they get in games. Some players (McGhee, for example) you know are good from the moment you see them get under center. That's rare though.

My guess is MSU looked for a QB, but unless they were able to find someone that was a can't miss prospect, they didn't think it would help their situation.

Mellott is oft injured. You can say since he's been injured a lot, he's going to get injured again. You can also say, that since he's been injured so much, he's due to not get injured. Neither one of those assumptions is anything more than that. Every team should have a good backup, regardless.

I guess I'm confused then on what's being discussed here.

[CodyCat]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

Finding a Chambers in the Portal is so rare. I could be missing someone, but what QB from the Portal has "saved MSU's bacon" or even been a solid start other than Chambers? Im sure MSU looked and evaluated portal QBs. Maybe they even made some offers. But, that strategy is high risk high reward.

Someone else said it, but evaluating Reed on this spring is only one snippet of his game. He came in during mop up on several occasions last season and looked decent. Every team in the country has question marks on how good their 2nd string QB is. Reed and Wilson were good pickups in their respective recruiting cycles. When Tommy goes down, I think the chances of a Natty go with him. But, I think most teams in the country would say the same thing. Who really knows what MSU's backups bring to the table until they are thrusted into the starting role. I mean, Tommy lined up at receiver in Missoula, two weeks later he starts at Sam Houston and the rest is history.

[catatac]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

Thanks for the response!

1) I would counter that you can’t become ready until you’re put in a position to be ready. If they continually bring in transfer QB’s, they won’t develop the ones they recruit. I actually think Bobby is a perfect example of this. Ah Yat could be the first QB that goes from HS recruit to starter since…Bergquist?

2) If you say that Fife isn’t ready, and that Reed isn’t ready, it hardly seems fair to say that MSU/Vigen was irresponsible in their QB room. I actually think the situations are similar, both universities have inexperienced backups but one could argue that MSU has more in terms of experience due to longevity, and it’s not like Reed, Wilson, and Duchien are lacking in talent. To clarify, I don’t have a problem with saying Reed isn’t ready, more in how you framed it. MSU was irresponsible because they didn’t bring in a transfer? By logic, is Hauck not irresponsible because he largely refuses to get quality HS QB recruits or allow them to develop? Yet you don’t use that kind of language with Hauck. Just my observation.

3) Chambers came to play for his former OC/QB coach after he got benched at Wyoming. It was a different, and unique circumstance that isn’t easily replicated.

Ya, seems a bit silly to assume a coach is being irresponsible by not going to the portal and snagging an FBS QB every year. Also a terrible assumption that said QB will instantly be better than the QB's on your roster. Tommy was just a Freshman backup that nobody had any idea how special he would become..... until he did. One of the backup QBs on the roster could be the next Tommy, or Travis, or Denarius, etc. Sometimes you just flat out don't know. I agree the Chambers deal was different because Vigen knew him very, very well and knew exactly what he was getting. Bobby tried to copy that by bringing in a star QB in Vidlak (That Bobby knew from his past). That didn't work, Vidlak was a bust. Is Fife the new Vidlak? I see that Fife is a non running QB that has 6 TD's and 9 Interceptions in his career. But, he played in the FBS though. Epic.

[Colter_Nuanez]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

Thanks for the response!

1) I would counter that you can’t become ready until you’re put in a position to be ready. If they continually bring in transfer QB’s, they won’t develop the ones they recruit. I actually think Bobby is a perfect example of this. Ah Yat could be the first QB that goes from HS recruit to starter since…Bergquist?

2) If you say that Fife isn’t ready, and that Reed isn’t ready, it hardly seems fair to say that MSU/Vigen was irresponsible in their QB room. I actually think the situations are similar, both universities have inexperienced backups but one could argue that MSU has more in terms of experience due to longevity, and it’s not like Reed, Wilson, and Duchien are lacking in talent. To clarify, I don’t have a problem with saying Reed isn’t ready, more in how you framed it. MSU was irresponsible because they didn’t bring in a transfer? By logic, is Hauck not irresponsible because he largely refuses to get quality HS QB recruits or allow them to develop? Yet you don’t use that kind of language with Hauck. Just my observation.

3) Chambers came to play for his former OC/QB coach after he got benched at Wyoming. It was a different, and unique circumstance that isn’t easily replicated.

The No. 1 thing to understand when comparing the Cats & the Griz or comparing the Griz to anyone is that Bobby Hauck does not depend on the quarterback to win like the vast majority of other modern football organizations. In fact, it's almost as if he wants to prove to the world that he can win a national championship IN SPITE of his quarterback....

It wouldn't matter if Hauck had Tommy Mellott or DeNarius McGhee or whoever....he would bring in a transfer every single year to compete with that person. Bergquist was a starter as a redshirt freshman after Jason Washington fell apart and led Montana to the playoffs down the stretch of an otherwise pretty mediocre 2005 season. The following year, instead of letting Bergquist be an incumbent and potentially four-year starter, Hauck brought in Josh Swogger from Washington State. Bergquist crumbled and lost out and almost transferred. The following year, Bergquist beat out the JC transfer they brought in and was a two-year starter.

If you watch camp right now in Missoula, Hauck's staff are doing whatever he can to make it impossible for Ah Yat. The last time I was down there, he could not move the ball whatsoever. The Griz were blitzing relentlessly and the offensive staff was quite pissed. It was hilarious. This does not make Hauck irresponsible as much as antiquated and stubborn. You can argue that he's flawed in this way of thinking and I would fully agree. But again, Bobby has NO intention of winning with his quarterback. He has told me and the media this many times. He wants the QB to be a cog in his machine.

I would probably rephrase my comment about the MSU situation if given a chance to have another take. Live is live and unlike writing (which I much prefer), you sometimes slip. Irresponsible is probably too strong a word.

But to me, it's very clear that neither Reed or Wilson is ready to play in big games. Given the offense MSU runs and the makeup and history of Mellott, you have to have someone who is ready to play in a big game. And every person I know who has watched spring and fall ball from the MSU side of things agrees.

Are you going to get another Sean Chambers? No. Are you going to get an all-conference caliber QB to backup Tommy? Hell no. The vast majority of the league can't even get a good quarterback to be its starter! But I do think you could bring in a veteran who could have command of an offense and get a squad in and out of things. Like a Cam Humphrey for the Griz a few years back. Guys like Jake Bleskin and Quinn McQueary were both more ready than what MSU currently has.

Maybe those guys will rapidly accelerate if called upon. If either Wilson or Reed is called upon, they will have to if MSU is going to fulfill its lofty expectations this season.

[Colter_Nuanez]

Colter, I’m curious. You said it was irresponsible for MSU to not bring in a transfer QB because they don’t have a backup. I have multiple questions.

1) Why don’t you think Jordan Reed is good?

2) Why is Fife automatically viewed as better than Reed?

3) What starter quality QB is going to transfer to MSU where they have an established starting QB, and the only chance they’d play is in case of injury or blow out?

We will hash this out on the next podcast....but short answers:

1 - there's a big difference between "good" and ready. I do not think Jordan Reed is ready. I thought he held on to the ball too long during the spring game and the word is that his command of a huddle, his ability to get in and out of things is limited. Part of that might be a new offensive coordinator. But one of the top factors to Montana State's success is either Tommy Mellott staying healthy or Reed/Chance Wilson making a big jump. For what it's worth, Wilson has been operating the No. 2 offense the last week.

2 - I also do not think Fife is ready> I think he makes quite a few risky decisions and turns the ball over much more than the head coach he plays for will allow. I'm of the opinion that Clifton McDowell was an average at best quarterback....but he could run the ball effectively and he never turned the ball over. That's one of the main reasons Montana made a run last year.

3 - Montana State added a player who started in the FBS when they added Sean Chambers. And it saved their bacon on multiple occasions.

Love the questions! I'm pasting them in a doc and Tootell and I, + Mike Rider and I will address them in future episodes in the next week or so. Please keep asking!

Thanks for the response!

1) I would counter that you can’t become ready until you’re put in a position to be ready. If they continually bring in transfer QB’s, they won’t develop the ones they recruit. I actually think Bobby is a perfect example of this. Ah Yat could be the first QB that goes from HS recruit to starter since…Bergquist?

2) If you say that Fife isn’t ready, and that Reed isn’t ready, it hardly seems fair to say that MSU/Vigen was irresponsible in their QB room. I actually think the situations are similar, both universities have inexperienced backups but one could argue that MSU has more in terms of experience due to longevity, and it’s not like Reed, Wilson, and Duchien are lacking in talent. To clarify, I don’t have a problem with saying Reed isn’t ready, more in how you framed it. MSU was irresponsible because they didn’t bring in a transfer? By logic, is Hauck not irresponsible because he largely refuses to get quality HS QB recruits or allow them to develop? Yet you don’t use that kind of language with Hauck. Just my observation.

3) Chambers came to play for his former OC/QB coach after he got benched at Wyoming. It was a different, and unique circumstance that isn’t easily replicated.

Ya, seems a bit silly to assume a coach is being irresponsible by not going to the portal and snagging an FBS QB every year. Also a terrible assumption that said QB will instantly be better than the QB's on your roster. Tommy was just a Freshman backup that nobody had any idea how special he would become..... until he did. One of the backup QBs on the roster could be the next Tommy, or Travis, or Denarius, etc. Sometimes you just flat out don't know. I agree the Chambers deal was different because Vigen knew him very, very well and knew exactly what he was getting. Bobby tried to copy that by bringing in a star QB in Vidlak (That Bobby knew from his past). That didn't work, Vidlak was a bust. Is Fife the new Vidlak? I see that Fife is a non running QB that has 6 TD's and 9 Interceptions in his career. But, he played in the FBS though. Epic.

For the record, I do not think Fife is the guy. He is reckless in what I've seen. I've seen him throw 7 picks in the four live situations I've watched. That won't get you very far with Hauck...

[Colter_Nuanez]