Griz versus the UND Fighting Hawks

[RickRund]

I dislike Hauck as much as the next Bobcat fan, but you have to admit that he did an incredible job last year of taking a team that was left for dead after the awful NAU loss and ending up making it to Frisco without losing another game. Maybe he's not the best coach in FCS but he's very high up there.

He's a good coach. He's not the best coach in FCS, not even close.

So who's definitely above him in the rankings? Not trying to argue on Hauck's behalf but interested to know what people think. NDSU's guy is brand new and SDSU's in his second year but with one more title already than Bobby. Vigen has a gaudy win percentage but a couple bad losses to UM and hasn't gotten over the hump in the playoffs yet either. Several of the coaches I clearly would have ranked higher (Jay Hill of Weber, Troy Taylor of Sac, John Stiegelmeier of SDSU) are no longer around.

Good point about all that coaching talent leaving the FCS recently, I didn't think about that. But...
Just based on results (1 deep playoff run since 2018), there are many coaches I'd consider better than him starting with Vigen.
Hauck is a great special teams coach, I'll give him that. Other than that, why do you think he's so great? What are you basing that on?
With all their support, facilities, and their stadium, you could put any decent college coach in missoula and he could make 1 deep playoff run every 5 years.

He's a good coach, don't get me wrong. But he's not going to "outcoach everybody in the FCS."

Just watch last Saturday’s game. He gave it away.

One of his greatest weaknesses as a coach is being stubborn and unwilling to change his game plan on the go. He was unwilling to do the thing that would win him the game at UND. Run the ball, take the pressure of your young QB.

At this point Jason Eck is moving up the ranks pretty fast. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him land a big time job soon. He has the personality and passion big programs like.

His stubbornness runs into other areas as well. Both stubbornness and arrogance have hurt him with personnel, coaching, player retention and dealing with the media. All are important aspects of being a head coach and I give him C’s or lower in those areas.

Is this stubbornness and arrogance really hurting him off the field or do we all just want it to? Sure he's a terrible person when he has a griz shirt on but I don't think coaches and players are fleeing him. He protects his own.

I don’t know. It has become common knowledge that Bobby has his favorites. That has resulted in kids leaving the program. Mostly low profile guys but the brothers from Billings that left are a good example. Kids eventually talk about their treatment and I am guessing that has led to some guys not choosing UM from the get go.

Wasn't it Jace a few seasons ago that came out very critical of hauck?

[catatac]

I dislike Hauck as much as the next Bobcat fan, but you have to admit that he did an incredible job last year of taking a team that was left for dead after the awful NAU loss and ending up making it to Frisco without losing another game. Maybe he's not the best coach in FCS but he's very high up there.

He's a good coach. He's not the best coach in FCS, not even close.

So who's definitely above him in the rankings? Not trying to argue on Hauck's behalf but interested to know what people think. NDSU's guy is brand new and SDSU's in his second year but with one more title already than Bobby. Vigen has a gaudy win percentage but a couple bad losses to UM and hasn't gotten over the hump in the playoffs yet either. Several of the coaches I clearly would have ranked higher (Jay Hill of Weber, Troy Taylor of Sac, John Stiegelmeier of SDSU) are no longer around.

Good point about all that coaching talent leaving the FCS recently, I didn't think about that. But...
Just based on results (1 deep playoff run since 2018), there are many coaches I'd consider better than him starting with Vigen.
Hauck is a great special teams coach, I'll give him that. Other than that, why do you think he's so great? What are you basing that on?
With all their support, facilities, and their stadium, you could put any decent college coach in missoula and he could make 1 deep playoff run every 5 years.

He's a good coach, don't get me wrong. But he's not going to "outcoach everybody in the FCS."

Just watch last Saturday’s game. He gave it away.

One of his greatest weaknesses as a coach is being stubborn and unwilling to change his game plan on the go. He was unwilling to do the thing that would win him the game at UND. Run the ball, take the pressure of your young QB.

At this point Jason Eck is moving up the ranks pretty fast. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him land a big time job soon. He has the personality and passion big programs like.

His stubbornness runs into other areas as well. Both stubbornness and arrogance have hurt him with personnel, coaching, player retention and dealing with the media. All are important aspects of being a head coach and I give him C’s or lower in those areas.

Is this stubbornness and arrogance really hurting him off the field or do we all just want it to? Sure he's a terrible person when he has a griz shirt on but I don't think coaches and players are fleeing him. He protects his own.

I don’t know. It has become common knowledge that Bobby has his favorites. That has resulted in kids leaving the program. Mostly low profile guys but the brothers from Billings that left are a good example. Kids eventually talk about their treatment and I am guessing that has led to some guys not choosing UM from the get go.

Wasn't it Jace a few seasons ago that came out very critical of hauck?

I think it was, but not positive on that. Whoever I'm thinking of, yes I remember the same thing. He didn't completely slap Hauck but he did say he was a total Pr!ck, A-hole, but that he did get the most of him out of a player. Different styles for different coaches I guess.