October 30th Committee ranking

[BleedingBLue]

If all of our opponents past and future continue to win and we don’t lose, we’ll be top 2

Not sure what this means? All of our opponents - past and future can’t all continue to win because a) some of them play each other ( um, Davis, sac state, etc) and b) some are horrible ( Utah tech , UNC) and will continue losing.

I think it is now possible, although not probable, the Cats could end up #3 based on these newest criteria. More on that later but we will definitely have a lower SOS, Massey rating, KPI and ESPN power rating than SDSU if we both win out. The only items in the list we will have over SDSU is record and # of D1 wins (12 vs 9) which is something of value. Sure would be a travesty. Let’s see what comes out this week on the top 10.

Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem right..... but what do I know. I'll await the detailed breakdown. Cats at 12-0 would have several high quality, top ten wins, in addition to the FBS win.

According to Massey, the Cats SSF (strength of schedule with future games factored in) gets up to 24th by the end of the season. Still will likely be the “weakest” SOS of the top 10, but not by a ton. The 24th hardest schedule isn’t exactly a cake walk, especially if the Cats get through it undefeated.

Thanks, and I don't pretend to know exactly how all the metrics work, but hypothetically if SDSU and MSU both win out, but the remaining SDSU wins are one point squeakers and the Cats blow out all four opponents by 40, including UCD and UM..... I'd have a hard time believing the Cats still land below SDSU in SOS, Massey, KPI, AND ESPN Power Rating.

Evening if they do, I'd assume the committee is also allowed to use their brains

Not an expert so some clarification. First, assuming SDSU wins are similar to MSU wins in last four games in terms of close ones and blowouts. Second, everything I know about Massey and KPI, at this point in the season, teams don’t usually move ahead of other teams unless the higher ranked team loses. Third, we both have two ranked teams and two unranked teams on the schedule. Finally, I said it was possible not probable. I do believe the committee can use their heads and the 12 D1 wins will mean something. I suppose my bigger concern is a 11-1 Cars team vs 10-2 Jacks team.

I'd be more concerned if SDSU could actually get 10 wins. 11 DI wins with an FBS win is still better than 9 DI wins, all FCS.

[94VegasCat]

If all of our opponents past and future continue to win and we don’t lose, we’ll be top 2

Not sure what this means? All of our opponents - past and future can’t all continue to win because a) some of them play each other ( um, Davis, sac state, etc) and b) some are horrible ( Utah tech , UNC) and will continue losing.

I think it is now possible, although not probable, the Cats could end up #3 based on these newest criteria. More on that later but we will definitely have a lower SOS, Massey rating, KPI and ESPN power rating than SDSU if we both win out. The only items in the list we will have over SDSU is record and # of D1 wins (12 vs 9) which is something of value. Sure would be a travesty. Let’s see what comes out this week on the top 10.

Well no duh buddy. Clearly our future opponents and MSU can’t both win out. Think it through though. If everyone of our upcoming opponents wins all of their games EXCEPT against the CATS (are ya following along now) it should boost our SOS. hopefully one of the DSUs trip too.

[MSU01]

I'll be very surprised if the rankings released at noon today are anything other than:

1) NDSU
2) MSU
3) SDSU

If all those teams continue to win, I'll be very surprised if those aren't also the final seeds when the bracket is released. That said, I also think there's a higher than 50/50 chance that at least one of those top three loses a game or two in November which will either provide a lot more clarity or introduce way more uncertainty depending on how the losses stack up. Should be fun and we should definitely appreciate being a fans of a team that has already all but clinched a playoff bid before Halloween!

[Cledus]

If all of our opponents past and future continue to win and we don’t lose, we’ll be top 2

Not sure what this means? All of our opponents - past and future can’t all continue to win because a) some of them play each other ( um, Davis, sac state, etc) and b) some are horrible ( Utah tech , UNC) and will continue losing.

I think it is now possible, although not probable, the Cats could end up #3 based on these newest criteria. More on that later but we will definitely have a lower SOS, Massey rating, KPI and ESPN power rating than SDSU if we both win out. The only items in the list we will have over SDSU is record and # of D1 wins (12 vs 9) which is something of value. Sure would be a travesty. Let’s see what comes out this week on the top 10.

Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem right..... but what do I know. I'll await the detailed breakdown. Cats at 12-0 would have several high quality, top ten wins, in addition to the FBS win.

Massey does have a ranking for future strength of schedule. I'm not sure if that is a component in his current week ranking. Based on a snapshot right of how the landscape looks right now, MSU's future strength of schedule climbs to 24 (51 right now). If we win out, hopefully it's enough to lock in a top 2.

[CodyCat]

Is it on at noon on ESPN2?

[cat22[2010]]

Is it on at noon on ESPN2?

Yes noon mountain time on College Football Live on ESPN2.

[CodyCat]

Is it on at noon on ESPN2?

Yes noon mountain time on College Football Live on ESPN2.

Thanks! I thought thats what I read. But, I could not find it anywhere on the google machine.

[BleedingBLue]

Looks like we'll be waiting for the end of show. Closer to 12:25.

[ClowderUp]

1 NDSU
2 MSU
3 SDSU
4 South Dakota
5 UC Davis
6 SEMO
7 Idaho
8 Mercer
9 UIW
10 dumb

[DMMDCats]

No drake?????

The outrage.

[BleedingBLue]

And now all you hand wringers can sleep easier.

[grizzh8r]

1 NDSU
2 MSU
3 SDSU
4 South Dakota
5 UC Davis
6 SEMO
7 Idaho
8 Mercer
9 UIW
10 dumb

Interesting, shows how down the CAA is this season

[BleedingBLue]

1 NDSU
2 MSU
3 SDSU
4 South Dakota
5 UC Davis
6 SEMO
7 Idaho
8 Mercer
9 UIW
10 dumb

Interesting, shows how down the CAA is this season

Too big is the main problem. Not very many ranked matchups this year.

[94VegasCat]

7&10? Really??

[tdub]

Pretty dang close to Stats poll. Difference:
(Team, Stats rank, committee rank)
Davis, 4, 5
USD, 5, 4
Idaho, 10, 7
Mercer, 12, 8
gris, 8, 10
Tarleton, 7, NR

[CodyCat]

7&10? Really??

Who would you put in those two spots?

[Prodigal Cat]

Obviously it won't happen because most of these teams play one of the others but with this ranking the bracket would have Montana would go to Idaho after its first round game and the winner would play MSU in the Quarters. I'd be ok with that.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Really interesting to see how this plays out down the stretch. Very curious to see the UM-UCD game, that'll tell a lot. Griz win? Maybe they actually did figure some defensive things out, or their O is good enough to make them competitive with some of the top teams. UCD blows them out in Wa-Griz, maybe they deserve a spot at the contender's table. Does anyone know if USD and NDSU play? That would be a huge game that would tell us a lot about who the real contenders are too.

[ilovethecats]

Really interesting to see how this plays out down the stretch. Very curious to see the UM-UCD game, that'll tell a lot. Griz win? Maybe they actually did figure some defensive things out, or their O is good enough to make them competitive with some of the top teams. UCD blows them out in Wa-Griz, maybe they deserve a spot at the contender's table. Does anyone know if USD and NDSU play? That would be a huge game that would tell us a lot about who the real contenders are too.

Yep. Same day as Cat/Griz. At South Dakota

[catatac]

7&10? Really??

Who would you put in those two spots?

How about UND and Weber, since they both beat the Griz? kidding, I know it doesn't work that way - but still.