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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Lord Vigo » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:36 am

TomCat88 wrote:
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Looks like Mellott is either first or second in everything except yards and sacks?
Yeah and when you look at total yards, he's only behind Chachere by 3 yards despite playing a lot less.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

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Great breakdown! Looks like Chachere has more rushing tds doesn't he? Very interesting to look at though.
Good catch.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by kmax » Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:36 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:48 am
Looks like Mellott is either first or second in everything except yards and sacks?
Yeah and when you look at total yards, he's only behind Chachere by 3 yards despite playing a lot less.
And 3 of the 5 sacks came week 0 so only 2 in the 6 games since.


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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Lord Vigo » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:31 pm

kmax wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:36 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:48 am
Looks like Mellott is either first or second in everything except yards and sacks?
Yeah and when you look at total yards, he's only behind Chachere by 3 yards despite playing a lot less.
And 3 of the 5 sacks came week 0 so only 2 in the 6 games since.
When you consider the rushing ability I think he’s the best overall QB in the subdivision.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Lord Vigo » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:15 am

Comparison of the starting QB's of the Big 3:

Cam Miller, NDSU: 146/190, 76.8%, 1795 yards, 9.4 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 10 sacks, 72 rush, 252 yards, 3.5 YPC, 6 TD

Mark Gronowski, SDSU: 128/204, 62.7%, 1386 yards, 6.8 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 4 sacks, 60 rush, 266 yards, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Tommy Mellott, MSU: 105/150, 70.0%, 1442 yards, 9.6 YPA, 17 TD, 0 INT, 5 sacks, 48 rush, 414 yards, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD

Gronowski has fallen off hard this year. Outside of completion percentage, Miller only really leads Mellott in volume stats.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:02 am

Lord Vigo wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:15 am
Comparison of the starting QB's of the Big 3:

Cam Miller, NDSU: 146/190, 76.8%, 1795 yards, 9.4 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 10 sacks, 72 rush, 252 yards, 3.5 YPC, 6 TD

Mark Gronowski, SDSU: 128/204, 62.7%, 1386 yards, 6.8 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 4 sacks, 60 rush, 266 yards, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Tommy Mellott, MSU: 105/150, 70.0%, 1442 yards, 9.6 YPA, 17 TD, 0 INT, 5 sacks, 48 rush, 414 yards, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD

Gronowski has fallen off hard this year. Outside of completion percentage, Miller only really leads Mellott in volume stats.
Mellott has been perfect for the system it seems. His decision making has been excellent aside from a couple miscues vs UNM and those situations weren’t entirely his fault. It’s a team game after all, which also applies to his success as he would say.


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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by tetoncat » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:53 am

Lord Vigo wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:15 am
Comparison of the starting QB's of the Big 3:

Cam Miller, NDSU: 146/190, 76.8%, 1795 yards, 9.4 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 10 sacks, 72 rush, 252 yards, 3.5 YPC, 6 TD

Mark Gronowski, SDSU: 128/204, 62.7%, 1386 yards, 6.8 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 4 sacks, 60 rush, 266 yards, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Tommy Mellott, MSU: 105/150, 70.0%, 1442 yards, 9.6 YPA, 17 TD, 0 INT, 5 sacks, 48 rush, 414 yards, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD

Gronowski has fallen off hard this year. Outside of completion percentage, Miller only really leads Mellott in volume stats.
No Jahnke brothers, Heins was a good TE, and Davis the RB went for 1500 yd. Joshson was backup RB last year and his yards were not that far off what he has as #1 option. They don't have the horses they had.


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Re: Mellott's Progress

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tetoncat wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:53 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:15 am
Comparison of the starting QB's of the Big 3:

Cam Miller, NDSU: 146/190, 76.8%, 1795 yards, 9.4 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 10 sacks, 72 rush, 252 yards, 3.5 YPC, 6 TD

Mark Gronowski, SDSU: 128/204, 62.7%, 1386 yards, 6.8 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 4 sacks, 60 rush, 266 yards, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Tommy Mellott, MSU: 105/150, 70.0%, 1442 yards, 9.6 YPA, 17 TD, 0 INT, 5 sacks, 48 rush, 414 yards, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD

Gronowski has fallen off hard this year. Outside of completion percentage, Miller only really leads Mellott in volume stats.
No Jahnke brothers, Heins was a good TE, and Davis the RB went for 1500 yd. Joshson was backup RB last year and his yards were not that far off what he has as #1 option. They don't have the horses they had.
Mason McCormick too. He’s starting for Pittsburg right now.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:57 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:02 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:15 am
Comparison of the starting QB's of the Big 3:

Cam Miller, NDSU: 146/190, 76.8%, 1795 yards, 9.4 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 10 sacks, 72 rush, 252 yards, 3.5 YPC, 6 TD

Mark Gronowski, SDSU: 128/204, 62.7%, 1386 yards, 6.8 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 4 sacks, 60 rush, 266 yards, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Tommy Mellott, MSU: 105/150, 70.0%, 1442 yards, 9.6 YPA, 17 TD, 0 INT, 5 sacks, 48 rush, 414 yards, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD

Gronowski has fallen off hard this year. Outside of completion percentage, Miller only really leads Mellott in volume stats.
Mellott has been perfect for the system it seems. His decision making has been excellent aside from a couple miscues vs UNM and those situations weren’t entirely his fault. It’s a team game after all, which also applies to his success as he would say.
Another thing about his progress is his ability to find and hit open receivers instead of going for 50-50 balls. I can’t even remember the last time he’s thrown one of those.


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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by coloradocat » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:11 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:57 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:02 am
Lord Vigo wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:15 am
Comparison of the starting QB's of the Big 3:

Cam Miller, NDSU: 146/190, 76.8%, 1795 yards, 9.4 YPA, 16 TD, 0 INT, 10 sacks, 72 rush, 252 yards, 3.5 YPC, 6 TD

Mark Gronowski, SDSU: 128/204, 62.7%, 1386 yards, 6.8 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT, 4 sacks, 60 rush, 266 yards, 4.4 YPC, 4 TD

Tommy Mellott, MSU: 105/150, 70.0%, 1442 yards, 9.6 YPA, 17 TD, 0 INT, 5 sacks, 48 rush, 414 yards, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD

Gronowski has fallen off hard this year. Outside of completion percentage, Miller only really leads Mellott in volume stats.
Mellott has been perfect for the system it seems. His decision making has been excellent aside from a couple miscues vs UNM and those situations weren’t entirely his fault. It’s a team game after all, which also applies to his success as he would say.
Another thing about his progress is his ability to find and hit open receivers instead of going for 50-50 balls. I can’t even remember the last time he’s thrown one of those.
One obvious change from young Tommy is that he's going through progressions to find the open target, not just throwing to the first/only read. I don't know when that really took off but you can definitely see him reading the defense on just about every play this year. He no longer has to throw 50/50 balls. He can just throw to someone else.


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Post by coloradocat » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:40 pm

That average quarters played stat is crazy 8 games into the season regardless of SOS, especially injury-free.


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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by nanacat » Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:19 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:40 pm
That average quarters played stat is crazy 8 games into the season regardless of SOS, especially injury-free.
Ya, pretty impressive



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Lord Vigo » Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:18 pm

BSC Passing Efficiency:
  • T. Mellott, MSU: 187.4
  • K. Visperas, EWU: 158.8
  • M. Hastings, UCD: 155.5
  • L. Fife, UM: 152.0
  • T. Pennington, NAU: 142.6
  • R. Munoz, WEB: 137.6
  • D. Chachere, PSU: 134.6
  • C. Conklin, SAC: 132.9
  • K. Tracy, ISU: 130.9
  • J. Layne, ID: 127.7
  • B. Kelly, CP: 125.7
  • K. Ah Yat, UM: 118.1
  • K. Keone, UNC: 98.5
The gap between Mellott and Visperas at #2 is basically the same as the gap between #2 and #9.

Rushing Efficiency:
  • T. Mellott, MSU: 414 yds, 8.6 YPC, 7 TD
  • D. Chachere, PSU: 447 yds, 5.3 YPC, 8 TD
  • T. Pennington, NAU: 253 yds, 4.4 YPC, 3 TD
  • K. Visperas, EWU: 251 yds, 3.4 YPC, 6 TD
  • K. Keone, UNC: 187 yds, 3.6 YPC, 2 TD
  • R. Munoz, WEB: 157 yds, 3.0 YPC, 2 TD
  • K. Ah Yat, UM: 89 yds, 2.6 YPC, 6 TD
  • L. Fife, UM: 58 yds, 1.9 YPC, 4 TD
  • K. Tracy, ISU: 31 yds, 1.3 YPC, 0 TD
  • B. Kelly, CP: 14 yds, 0.8 YPC, 0 TD
  • J. Layne, ID: -2 yds, -0.2 YPC, 1 TD
  • C. Conklin, SAC: -24 yds, -1.1 YPC, 0 TD
  • M. Hastings, UCD: -76 yds, -2.6 YPC, 1 TD
The gap in YPC between Mellott and Chachere at #2 is basically the same as the gap between #2 and #8.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Lord Vigo » Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm

This is an aside, but there is a really wide gap between how Griz fans and some of the media types talk about Ah Yat and what he actually does on the field— statistically and to the naked eye.

He might be good in time, but not right now.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Augustus » Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:50 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm
This is an aside, but there is a really wide gap between how Griz fans and some of the media types talk about Ah Yat and what he actually does on the field— statistically and to the naked eye.

He might be good in time, but not right now.
He's a legacy. If his dad hadn't played there he likely wouldn't be getting the rave reviews.

Regarding Tommy - I think we need to talk him into going to grad school so he can stick around for another year. :lol:



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by seataccat » Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:01 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm
This is an aside, but there is a really wide gap between how Griz fans and some of the media types talk about Ah Yat and what he actually does on the field— statistically and to the naked eye.

He might be good in time, but not right now.
He's definitely young and not there yet, but he does have a very strong accurate arm.


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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by onceacat » Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:11 pm

Augustus wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:50 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm
This is an aside, but there is a really wide gap between how Griz fans and some of the media types talk about Ah Yat and what he actually does on the field— statistically and to the naked eye.

He might be good in time, but not right now.
He's a legacy. If his dad hadn't played there he likely wouldn't be getting the rave reviews.

Regarding Tommy - I think we need to talk him into going to grad school so he can stick around for another year. :lol:
You can talk to him all you want, but he's got 4 full seasons.

Maybe talk to the NCAA about letting him have another year since so many other dudes are in year 7 or 8?



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by Lord Vigo » Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:53 pm

seataccat wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:01 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm
This is an aside, but there is a really wide gap between how Griz fans and some of the media types talk about Ah Yat and what he actually does on the field— statistically and to the naked eye.

He might be good in time, but not right now.
He's definitely young and not there yet, but he does have a very strong accurate arm.
Meh

Mellott was head and shoulders better than him in his second season.



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Re: Mellott's Progress

Post by PapaG » Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:41 am

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Tommy has been absolutely elite this year. I just dont know how you can say he hasnt. Sure, I could have missed one or two. But the poorly thrown balls I have watched either in person, on TV, or on the replays have been due to pressure. Its honestly odd to me how much Tommy is flying under the radar. The kid is the best he's ever been. Think about that! Thats absolutely nuts. The dude is locked in and its truly special to watch. I do not know if the Cats will go 12-0. I dont know if they will win the Natty. But, watching Mellot be elite in 2024 is something I wont ever forget.
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