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Re: Selection show

Post by Bobcat Sig » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:41 pm

I must be seeing things much differently.

From the selection show, I learned that you need to be in the right conference (MVFC), have the right brand, (NDSU), and losses do not matter (3). Or, to say it differently, just play hard games and still get a high seed… unless you’re the Bobcats.


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Re: Selection show

Post by 91catAlum » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:44 pm

Don't like that we might get Idaho again, but i love that we don't have to beat both xdsu schools to win it all. That's huge!
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Re: Selection show

Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:44 pm

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Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:20 pm
I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.
The thing I find most interesting was the fact the commitee ordered these teams in nearly identical order to the Stats poll, yet the poll wasn't supposed to be part of the factors this year. The next thing I find interesting is that the 4 CAA teams that got in were all 9-16 seeds, yet not one was deserving of a top 8 seed? I think the committee did less work on this bracket than you, me, Sam Herder and everyone else who put time into their predictions and prognostications throughout the year. I do believe all the right teams got in, but I do believe the seeding should have been different.



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Re: Selection show

Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:45 pm

Bobcat Sig wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:41 pm
I must be seeing things much differently.

From the selection show, I learned that you need to be in the right conference (MVFC), have the right brand, (NDSU), and losses do not matter (3). Or, to say it differently, just play hard games and still get a high seed… unless you’re the Bobcats.
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Re: Selection show

Post by CalgaryCat » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:46 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Don't like that we might get Idaho again, but i love that we don't have to beat both xdsu schools to win it all. That's huge!
Frisco or bust!!!
I don’t love the possibility of having to play the Vandals again, but if the trade off is only having to play one of the DSUs you take that trade off every day. And I could definitely see Richmond getting past Idaho



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Re: Selection show

Post by onceacat » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:59 pm

Catprint wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:20 pm
I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.
I'm with you on these. I can see some minor adjustments...maybe UIW is a little overrated at #6, but only a spot or two (they mostly rolled their overmatched competition by 2-3 scores & have a win over NAU). NAU isn't really shocking over a 5th CAA team, but I think SUU maybe has a bit of a gripe...but theres no way that the UAC gets the same number of slots as the Big Sky & the MVFC. I think it's really hard for the committee to reward teams that play in weak conferences with that many playoff spots.

I would have given USD a bump due to their win over the #1 team...if they had lost, they would still have been #4, but would have been set up for a rematch against NDSU in the Semis...instead they have to come to Bozeman-a harder, colder trip against a team thats been lethal at home. I think this is a huge reward for MSU from the committee for its FBS win & undefeated path through one of the premier conferences.

Everything is a minor quibble though. It all falls within "reasonable people can disagree' which is about where you want things to be. Nothing in this is shocking in any way.



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Re: Selection show

Post by Bobcat Sig » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:02 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:59 pm
Catprint wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:20 pm
I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.
I'm with you on these. I can see some minor adjustments...maybe UIW is a little overrated at #6, but only a spot or two (they mostly rolled their overmatched competition by 2-3 scores & have a win over NAU). NAU isn't really shocking over a 5th CAA team, but I think SUU maybe has a bit of a gripe...but theres no way that the UAC gets the same number of slots as the Big Sky & the MVFC. I think it's really hard for the committee to reward teams that play in weak conferences with that many playoff spots.

I would have given USD a bump due to their win over the #1 team...if they had lost, they would still have been #4, but would have been set up for a rematch against NDSU in the Semis...instead they have to come to Bozeman-a harder, colder trip against a team thats been lethal at home. I think this is a huge reward for MSU from the committee for its FBS win & undefeated path through one of the premier conferences.

Everything is a minor quibble though. It all falls within "reasonable people can disagree' which is about where you want things to be. Nothing in this is shocking in any way.
For the most part, I agree. THe committee showed me that losses do not matter. You can lose three and still get a top seed. Or in the case of the griz, lose four and still get a seed.

I guess that’s where we are with the FCS these days.

No matter; Go CATS!!


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Re: Selection show

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:12 pm

We’re better than Idaho, so I’m not bothered. We might not win by 30, but we will win.



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Re: Selection show

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:23 pm

One thing we’ve already talked about but massive, massive kudos to Leon for finding a D1 to play after the SFA cancellation. You know they might have pulled some bs if they had a D2 on the resume. 12-0 against D1 gave them no options.


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Re: Selection show

Post by rfischer94 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:40 pm

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I want UNH again I was student during the missed XP was right behind the goal post
I was at that game too! What a wild finish!



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Re: Selection show

Post by rfischer94 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:41 pm

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Hahaha. Gris will have to go to Brookings if they get past Tenn St
I'm not sure they get past Tennessee State. They're really good.



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Re: Selection show

Post by BelgradeBobcat » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:44 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:59 pm
Catprint wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:20 pm
I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.
I'm with you on these. I can see some minor adjustments...maybe UIW is a little overrated at #6, but only a spot or two (they mostly rolled their overmatched competition by 2-3 scores & have a win over NAU). NAU isn't really shocking over a 5th CAA team, but I think SUU maybe has a bit of a gripe...but theres no way that the UAC gets the same number of slots as the Big Sky & the MVFC. I think it's really hard for the committee to reward teams that play in weak conferences with that many playoff spots.

I would have given USD a bump due to their win over the #1 team...if they had lost, they would still have been #4, but would have been set up for a rematch against NDSU in the Semis...instead they have to come to Bozeman-a harder, colder trip against a team thats been lethal at home. I think this is a huge reward for MSU from the committee for its FBS win & undefeated path through one of the premier conferences.

Everything is a minor quibble though. It all falls within "reasonable people can disagree' which is about where you want things to be. Nothing in this is shocking in any way.
SUU needed overtime to beat Utah Tech yesterday at home. NAU blew out Utah Tech in St. George. So, if the committee did look at those two teams, that would have been the decider I would guess.



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Re: Selection show

Post by rfischer94 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:47 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Catprint wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:20 pm
I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.
The thing I find most interesting was the fact the commitee ordered these teams in nearly identical order to the Stats poll, yet the poll wasn't supposed to be part of the factors this year. The next thing I find interesting is that the 4 CAA teams that got in were all 9-16 seeds, yet not one was deserving of a top 8 seed? I think the committee did less work on this bracket than you, me, Sam Herder and everyone else who put time into their predictions and prognostications throughout the year. I do believe all the right teams got in, but I do believe the seeding should have been different.
Not to mention that the committee uses number of ranked wins as part of the process, which are based on the polls that they don't consider. :-$ :-$ :-$



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Re: Selection show

Post by PapaG » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:52 pm

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Knew UM was going to be #14 as soon as they showed that game on ESPN 2 :lol: Then they'll get smashed at SDSU. Love it.
I think it’s as much about Eddie George coaching Tennessee State than ESPN2 wanting to show an average UM team play in a 2/3 full stadium to a national audience.


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Re: Selection show

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91catAlum wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Don't like that we might get Idaho again, but i love that we don't have to beat both xdsu schools to win it all. That's huge!
Frisco or bust!!!
Don't like that top 3 teams in BSC all ended up on same side. Just like seeing other teams.


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Post by tetoncat » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:58 pm

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I’m surprised NAU snuck in after the gris dropped to 14
Especially not playing MSU or UCD


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Re: Selection show

Post by 91catAlum » Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:29 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:55 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:44 pm
Don't like that we might get Idaho again, but i love that we don't have to beat both xdsu schools to win it all. That's huge!
Frisco or bust!!!
Don't like that top 3 teams in BSC all ended up on same side. Just like seeing other teams.
Ya it's possible we have rematches with both Idaho and Davis. Weird. But i like the dsu's on the other side.


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Re: Selection show

Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:40 pm

PapaG wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:52 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:03 pm
Knew UM was going to be #14 as soon as they showed that game on ESPN 2 :lol: Then they'll get smashed at SDSU. Love it.
I think it’s as much about Eddie George coaching Tennessee State than ESPN2 wanting to show an average UM team play in a 2/3 full stadium to a national audience.
One game in the mountain time zone opening weekend who's stadium will have 15k+. It's all about that, not either team, but it being UM helps.



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