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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by BobcatBlood » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:18 am

I also think it mattered that Julius, Rohan, and Blake went out. Next man up handled it so well it's not even mentioned, but those 3 out on offense (as well as Scottre) may have changed our plan a bit and put us into more of a vanilla look. That we still maintained and ultimately extended our lead and dominance is pretty damned exceptional.

And, yes, I'm willing to say that the Griz defense did pretty well. Both can be true!

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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:39 am

BobcatBlood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:18 am
I also think it mattered that Julius, Rohan, and Blake went out. Next man up handled it so well it's not even mentioned, but those 3 out on offense (as well as Scottre) may have changed our plan a bit and put us into more of a vanilla look. That we still maintained and ultimately extended our lead and dominance is pretty damned exceptional.

And, yes, I'm willing to say that the Griz defense did pretty well. Both can be true!

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This is my thought as well. I give credit that the griz D actually looked solid against our run game for a good chunk of that game.

That is in part a credit to them, but don’t discount the difference of not having our two top RB’s, both which have more of a physical style of running and without Rohan, one of our more physical blockers.

Jones played great, but he’s not necessarily a run it between the tackles 20 times a game type RB right now, and that’s what he had to become on Saturday. It eventually wore them down and we run for 320+ anyway, but I think the gris D would have been worn down earlier had we had Davis and/or Scottre available to beat them up more earlier in the game.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by nanacat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:21 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:39 am
BobcatBlood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:18 am
I also think it mattered that Julius, Rohan, and Blake went out. Next man up handled it so well it's not even mentioned, but those 3 out on offense (as well as Scottre) may have changed our plan a bit and put us into more of a vanilla look. That we still maintained and ultimately extended our lead and dominance is pretty damned exceptional.

And, yes, I'm willing to say that the Griz defense did pretty well. Both can be true!

12-0!
This is my thought as well. I give credit that the griz D actually looked solid against our run game for a good chunk of that game.

That is in part a credit to them, but don’t discount the difference of not having our two top RB’s, both which have more of a physical style of running and without Rohan, one of our more physical blockers.

Jones played great, but he’s not necessarily a run it between the tackles 20 times a game type RB right now, and that’s what he had to become on Saturday. It eventually wore them down and we run for 320+ anyway, but I think the gris D would have been worn down earlier had we had Davis and/or Scottre available to beat them up more earlier in the game.
This right here! If the 3-headed monster played Saturday, the score would have been much higher. When they only had one guy to stop they looked okay. But then as the game went on they couldn't even stop him, or Coon either.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by SparkCat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:31 pm

nanacat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:21 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:39 am
BobcatBlood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:18 am
I also think it mattered that Julius, Rohan, and Blake went out. Next man up handled it so well it's not even mentioned, but those 3 out on offense (as well as Scottre) may have changed our plan a bit and put us into more of a vanilla look. That we still maintained and ultimately extended our lead and dominance is pretty damned exceptional.

And, yes, I'm willing to say that the Griz defense did pretty well. Both can be true!

12-0!
This is my thought as well. I give credit that the griz D actually looked solid against our run game for a good chunk of that game.

That is in part a credit to them, but don’t discount the difference of not having our two top RB’s, both which have more of a physical style of running and without Rohan, one of our more physical blockers.

Jones played great, but he’s not necessarily a run it between the tackles 20 times a game type RB right now, and that’s what he had to become on Saturday. It eventually wore them down and we run for 320+ anyway, but I think the gris D would have been worn down earlier had we had Davis and/or Scottre available to beat them up more earlier in the game.
This right here! If the 3-headed monster played Saturday, the score would have been much higher. When they only had one guy to stop they looked okay. But then as the game went on they couldn't even stop him, or Coon either.
Coon, to my old eyes test, seems to be a more between the tackles type of dude. Although, not a huge dude, he seems to love contact and the few times he has played I have been extremely impressed on how he just pops out of a messy pile at the LOS.



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by tetoncat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:16 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:39 am
BobcatBlood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:18 am
I also think it mattered that Julius, Rohan, and Blake went out. Next man up handled it so well it's not even mentioned, but those 3 out on offense (as well as Scottre) may have changed our plan a bit and put us into more of a vanilla look. That we still maintained and ultimately extended our lead and dominance is pretty damned exceptional.

And, yes, I'm willing to say that the Griz defense did pretty well. Both can be true!

12-0!
This is my thought as well. I give credit that the griz D actually looked solid against our run game for a good chunk of that game.

That is in part a credit to them, but don’t discount the difference of not having our two top RB’s, both which have more of a physical style of running and without Rohan, one of our more physical blockers.

Jones played great, but he’s not necessarily a run it between the tackles 20 times a game type RB right now, and that’s what he had to become on Saturday. It eventually wore them down and we run for 320+ anyway, but I think the gris D would have been worn down earlier had we had Davis and/or Scottre available to beat them up more earlier in the game.
Question on this. Is it possible Davis got most of reps for certain formations/plays with Jones getting others more to his skillset. When Davis goes out we get a little more conservative on run plays, hit a couple passes. Then at half they adjust to what they can do with Jones to finish up knowing Davis and Humphrey are out.


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Post by AFCAT » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:01 pm

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Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:40 pm

I just finished watching the 1st quarter, always able to see so much more on a telecast than you can from the SRO grass hill…

Anyway, on the griz opening possession that sure looked like an INT from Polidore…
I didn’t think so in real time at the game, but seeing it on tv I think otherwise now.



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Post by 4KornerKat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:44 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:40 pm
I just finished watching the 1st quarter, always able to see so much more on a telecast than you can from the SRO grass hill…

Anyway, on the griz opening possession that sure looked like an INT from Polidore…
I didn’t think so in real time at the game, but seeing it on tv I think otherwise now.
If you slow it down you can definitely see it bounce.



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Post by 4KornerKat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:52 pm

I do think at 02:33:24 in the video it's very close on whether Fontes fumbles out the back of the end zone before his knee goes down. He starts to transfer from his right to his left hand before the knee is down, and never really has it with his left hand as his foot rolls up under him. Likely stands on review, but it's close.



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Post by TomCat88 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:02 pm

I was impressed with how MSU answered nearly every UM opportunity Saturday.

First UM won the toss and MSU answered with one of its best drives of the year.

Then UM kicked a long FG to cut it to 7-3 and the Bobcats answered with the great pass and catch from Mellott to Rohan Jones.

Then UM got the second half kickoff and drove into MSU territory but was stopped there.

Then the Griz got the ball downs but went three and out.

Then they pinned MSU on the five and Jones went 88 yards to set up TD.

Lastly, the Griz scored and got two-point conversion, then MSU had a drive like its first and scored after about six minutes off the clock.

MSU held the ball for 10:05 of the final 10:47, and the first 8:59.


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Post by nanacat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:45 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:02 pm
I was impressed with how MSU answered nearly every UM opportunity Saturday.

First UM won the toss and MSU answered with one of its best drives of the year.

Then UM kicked a long FG to cut it to 7-3 and the Bobcats answered with the great pass and catch from Mellott to Rohan Jones.

Then UM got the second half kickoff and drove into MSU territory but was stopped there.

Then the Griz got the ball downs but went three and out.

Then they pinned MSU on the five and Jones went 88 yards to set up TD.

Lastly, the Griz scored and got two-point conversion, then MSU had a drive like its first and scored after about six minutes off the clock.

MSU held the ball for 10:05 of the final 10:47, and the first 8:59.
That's really impressive! Coaches calling plays and players executing. Such a great team!



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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by Bobcat Sig » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:00 pm

nanacat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:45 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:02 pm
I was impressed with how MSU answered nearly every UM opportunity Saturday.

First UM won the toss and MSU answered with one of its best drives of the year.

Then UM kicked a long FG to cut it to 7-3 and the Bobcats answered with the great pass and catch from Mellott to Rohan Jones.

Then UM got the second half kickoff and drove into MSU territory but was stopped there.

Then the Griz got the ball downs but went three and out.

Then they pinned MSU on the five and Jones went 88 yards to set up TD.

Lastly, the Griz scored and got two-point conversion, then MSU had a drive like its first and scored after about six minutes off the clock.

MSU held the ball for 10:05 of the final 10:47, and the first 8:59.
That's really impressive! Coaches calling plays and players executing. Such a great team!
That was one of my favorite aspects of the game; ball control. That first nine-minute drive told me it was going to be a long day for the Cats. And that's what happened; Vigen and company drug them out to deep water and... well, you know the rest. 8)


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Re: The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Cat/Griz 2024

Post by iaafan » Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:38 pm

Bobcat Sig wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:00 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:45 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:02 pm
I was impressed with how MSU answered nearly every UM opportunity Saturday.

First UM won the toss and MSU answered with one of its best drives of the year.

Then UM kicked a long FG to cut it to 7-3 and the Bobcats answered with the great pass and catch from Mellott to Rohan Jones.

Then UM got the second half kickoff and drove into MSU territory but was stopped there.

Then the Griz got the ball downs but went three and out.

Then they pinned MSU on the five and Jones went 88 yards to set up TD.

Lastly, the Griz scored and got two-point conversion, then MSU had a drive like its first and scored after about six minutes off the clock.

MSU held the ball for 10:05 of the final 10:47, and the first 8:59.
That's really impressive! Coaches calling plays and players executing. Such a great team!
That was one of my favorite aspects of the game; ball control. That first nine-minute drive told me it was going to be a long day for the Cats. And that's what happened; Vigen and company drug them out to deep water and... well, you know the rest. 8)
If it's about how you start and how you finish, then this is textbook. 19:04 to 0:42 and 14-0.



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Post by Dbrewmsu » Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 am

Huge mistake today. Listened to the gris podcast for the first time. Ughh. Terrible. They said if you take out the 88 yard AJ run, the gris d held the Cats below their average. So...I went back and took out all the big plays the Cats through the season. Turns out our offense is just average. Idiot gris logic



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Post by tdub » Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:15 am

Dbrewmsu wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 am
Huge mistake today. Listened to the gris podcast for the first time. Ughh. Terrible. They said if you take out the 88 yard AJ run, the gris d held the Cats below their average. So...I went back and took out all the big plays the Cats through the season. Turns out our offense is just average. Idiot gris logic
I mean, they are not wrong. If you factor out all of the plays where the Cats scored, the gris would have won!


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Post by VimSince03 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:32 am

tdub wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:15 am
Dbrewmsu wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 am
Huge mistake today. Listened to the gris podcast for the first time. Ughh. Terrible. They said if you take out the 88 yard AJ run, the gris d held the Cats below their average. So...I went back and took out all the big plays the Cats through the season. Turns out our offense is just average. Idiot gris logic
I mean, they are not wrong. If you factor out all of the plays where the Cats scored, the gris would have won!
This was the common narrative of the Adrian Peterson years with the Vikings. Technically, the run game sucked if you take out Adrian's long runs because he also had a lot of negative and short gains during games. I call it Packers logic...

I mean...are these guys really going to force me to break down every run in that game? Okay fine I'll do it. Stay tuned!

(Full disclosure...thought the Griz defense had a good game plan defensively and played really hard which usually happens in rivalry games. It just wasn't enough and the talent level won out.)


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Post by MSU01 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:01 pm

tdub wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:15 am
Dbrewmsu wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 am
Huge mistake today. Listened to the gris podcast for the first time. Ughh. Terrible. They said if you take out the 88 yard AJ run, the gris d held the Cats below their average. So...I went back and took out all the big plays the Cats through the season. Turns out our offense is just average. Idiot gris logic
I mean, they are not wrong. If you factor out all of the plays where the Cats scored, the gris would have won!
It's really a travesty that the Griz weren't seeded #1 if you only take into account their big road wins over UNC and Cal Poly and don't consider the other 10 games.



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Post by Montanabob » Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:33 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:01 pm
tdub wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:15 am
Dbrewmsu wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 am
Huge mistake today. Listened to the gris podcast for the first time. Ughh. Terrible. They said if you take out the 88 yard AJ run, the gris d held the Cats below their average. So...I went back and took out all the big plays the Cats through the season. Turns out our offense is just average. Idiot gris logic
I mean, they are not wrong. If you factor out all of the plays where the Cats scored, the gris would have won!
It's really a travesty that the Griz weren't seeded #1 if you only take into account their big road wins over UNC and Cal Poly and don't consider the other 10 games.
in the second half all we did was run the damn ball. up the middle (the strength of the gris d) and did mot even try to pass.


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Post by tetoncat » Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:38 pm

What else could Cats do with that lock down secondary. No way any WR were open. :-k


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Post by Dbrewmsu » Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:29 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:01 pm
tdub wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:15 am
Dbrewmsu wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:33 am
Huge mistake today. Listened to the gris podcast for the first time. Ughh. Terrible. They said if you take out the 88 yard AJ run, the gris d held the Cats below their average. So...I went back and took out all the big plays the Cats through the season. Turns out our offense is just average. Idiot gris logic
I mean, they are not wrong. If you factor out all of the plays where the Cats scored, the gris would have won!
It's really a travesty that the Griz weren't seeded #1 if you only take into account their big road wins over UNC and Cal Poly and don't consider the other 10 games.
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