Any Portal News Yet

[kwcat]

They are losing 10 of 11 starters, all 6 LB on depth chart. 6 of 11 starters on offense, 7 if count Fife.

Wow… that is going to be really hard to rebuild their roster, and with that many new players they’ll need to come in, it will be even harder to build chemistry. On the other hand, I feel really good about what we’ll be able to put on the field next year as long as we can hang on to the players that we have!

The two big questions for me are Moore and Scottre. I'm hoping Moore hung around Tommy enough and the team culture theme rubbed off.

I think they are both very bought into the culture and love it in Bozeman………. BUT………. When you have Power 5 schools offering ridiculous amounts of money that can change things.

I’m not gonna say specifics of what I’ve heard cuz I don’t want to spread rumors. But I heard Moore already has some offers that would be impossible to turn down.

I heard Rush, Omar, and Seabass all got 100k to portal out of MSU last year. Can't confirm, though.
Is it more than that?

And I wouldn't say "Impossible". If memory serves, there's a kid playing for NDSU that turned down $1,000,000 to stay in Fargo this season.

That seems off, not saying it’s not what you heard, but $1 million? I’d be shocked if that was accurate.

I’m sure the premise is correct, the kid turned down some money to stay at NDSU, I just really doubt it was $1 million he turned down.

I cannot find the link to the article about the North Dakota and South Dakota state players who turned down NL deals. I believe it was on heroes Sports, but I cannot find it if you do a search maybe I’ll have more luck than I did, but that article came out earlier this fall.

[cat-o-nine]

They are losing 10 of 11 starters, all 6 LB on depth chart. 6 of 11 starters on offense, 7 if count Fife.

Wow… that is going to be really hard to rebuild their roster, and with that many new players they’ll need to come in, it will be even harder to build chemistry. On the other hand, I feel really good about what we’ll be able to put on the field next year as long as we can hang on to the players that we have!

The two big questions for me are Moore and Scottre. I'm hoping Moore hung around Tommy enough and the team culture theme rubbed off.

I think they are both very bought into the culture and love it in Bozeman………. BUT………. When you have Power 5 schools offering ridiculous amounts of money that can change things.

I’m not gonna say specifics of what I’ve heard cuz I don’t want to spread rumors. But I heard Moore already has some offers that would be impossible to turn down.

I heard Rush, Omar, and Seabass all got 100k to portal out of MSU last year. Can't confirm, though.
Is it more than that?

And I wouldn't say "Impossible". If memory serves, there's a kid playing for NDSU that turned down $1,000,000 to stay in Fargo this season.

That seems off, not saying it’s not what you heard, but $1 million? I’d be shocked if that was accurate.

I’m sure the premise is correct, the kid turned down some money to stay at NDSU, I just really doubt it was $1 million he turned down.

I cannot find the link to the article about the North Dakota and South Dakota state players who turned down NL deals. I believe it was on heroes Sports, but I cannot find it if you do a search maybe I’ll have more luck than I did, but that article came out earlier this fall.

Is this it?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... pset-hopes

[coloradocat]

Like a dog to its vomit so goes the gris and the Portal. This will be the norm when you build with it instead of normal recruits. Have to refill the cupboard every offseason.

To be fair if you look at who they offer in state, they lose to the Cats, Tech, or they don't pan out. I seriously think their coaching staff isn't good at evaluating and recruiting talent. Portal kinda negates that because you can see it on the field or someone else did it for them.

FIFY

And to build off your losing the recruiting battle point, they’re not able to sell the “Grizzly way” anymore. They can’t use the same sales pitch they used 30 years ago. But the program chose “Return to Dominance”. That phrase oozes the narcissism that has surrounded that football team. Cause now they’re 5 years into Bob 2.0 and the wheels are falling off…. “Are we still returning to dominance?”

I’ll believe that the gris coaches aren’t good at recruiting talent or the wheels are falling off the program when um has multiple losing seasons in a row and their attendance tanks.

Look. You have to be an all time bad coach to have multiple losing seasons at UM in the BSC. It's hardly possible.

A bad season for UM isn't the same as a bad season for UNC. A good season for UNC, honestly, would be a terrible season for UM. Different programs have different expectations. With all the advantages they have compared to the vast majority of the FCS, they should be a consistent top 10 team. The same is true of MSU. There really is no excuse to be any worse than that.

Look, I didn’t see any evidence of “wheels falling off.” UM is regularly investing in their program, in the top two in attendance every year, in the playoffs, and one year removed from being in the National Championship game. If a supposed down year for them means the wheels are falling off the program, then that’s great news. I just don’t believe it, at least not yet. I want to see more evidence in the most important results. Sheesh, now you guys have me defending um. My week is ruined.

Bergen is out of eligibility. He created a mirage over the past two years. I think you'll find some wheels on the side of the road by midseason next year.

[kwcat]

They are losing 10 of 11 starters, all 6 LB on depth chart. 6 of 11 starters on offense, 7 if count Fife.

Wow… that is going to be really hard to rebuild their roster, and with that many new players they’ll need to come in, it will be even harder to build chemistry. On the other hand, I feel really good about what we’ll be able to put on the field next year as long as we can hang on to the players that we have!

The two big questions for me are Moore and Scottre. I'm hoping Moore hung around Tommy enough and the team culture theme rubbed off.

I think they are both very bought into the culture and love it in Bozeman………. BUT………. When you have Power 5 schools offering ridiculous amounts of money that can change things.

I’m not gonna say specifics of what I’ve heard cuz I don’t want to spread rumors. But I heard Moore already has some offers that would be impossible to turn down.

I heard Rush, Omar, and Seabass all got 100k to portal out of MSU last year. Can't confirm, though.
Is it more than that?

And I wouldn't say "Impossible". If memory serves, there's a kid playing for NDSU that turned down $1,000,000 to stay in Fargo this season.

That seems off, not saying it’s not what you heard, but $1 million? I’d be shocked if that was accurate.

I’m sure the premise is correct, the kid turned down some money to stay at NDSU, I just really doubt it was $1 million he turned down.

I cannot find the link to the article about the North Dakota and South Dakota state players who turned down NL deals. I believe it was on heroes Sports, but I cannot find it if you do a search maybe I’ll have more luck than I did, but that article came out earlier this fall.

Is this it?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... pset-hopes

Thanks for finding that

[Lord Vigo]

One refrain I heard pretty often from some media and especially from Griz fans this season is that the Cats are super senior-laden and are going to lose a ton this off-season, which would give UM the opportunity to catch up to them.

So far, it's looking like the opposite is true.

Between graduations and transfers, UM has lost 24/44 from their most recent 2-Deep, including 15 starters. There are rumblings of more to come.

That Cats are slated to lose 13. Even if we allow for some portal defections, the number should be around 15.

[cats2506]

One refrain I heard pretty often from some media and especially from Griz fans this season is that the Cats are super senior-laden and are going to lose a ton this off-season, which would give UM the opportunity to catch up to them.

So far, it's looking like the opposite is true.

Between graduations and transfers, UM has lost 24/44 from their most recent 2-Deep, including 15 starters. There are rumblings of more to come.

That Cats are slated to lose 13. Even if we allow for some portal defections, the number should be around 15.

A lot of Cat underclassmen have had game reps this year, not so much over there.

[cats2506]

[RootinfortheCats]

One refrain I heard pretty often from some media and especially from Griz fans this season is that the Cats are super senior-laden and are going to lose a ton this off-season, which would give UM the opportunity to catch up to them.

So far, it's looking like the opposite is true.

Between graduations and transfers, UM has lost 24/44 from their most recent 2-Deep, including 15 starters. There are rumblings of more to come.

That Cats are slated to lose 13. Even if we allow for some portal defections, the number should be around 15.

A lot of Cat underclassmen have had game reps this year, not so much over there.

I’ve been cheering Cat Football for many decades now, and can’t remember a team with greater depth than this one. Assuming we don’t get portal poached too heavily, I think the train keeps chugging’ away.

I would love to hear @TomCat88 on his take on the depth Vigen has built here, and how it stacks up historically.

[Lord Vigo]

Going to Frisco would help tamp down portal defections.

[coloradocat]

One refrain I heard pretty often from some media and especially from Griz fans this season is that the Cats are super senior-laden and are going to lose a ton this off-season, which would give UM the opportunity to catch up to them.

So far, it's looking like the opposite is true.

Between graduations and transfers, UM has lost 24/44 from their most recent 2-Deep, including 15 starters. There are rumblings of more to come.

That Cats are slated to lose 13. Even if we allow for some portal defections, the number should be around 15.

A lot of Cat underclassmen have had game reps this year, not so much over there.

Yeah, we lose our share of guys, especially really important ones, but we also didn't keep our starters in for the full 60 minutes in the games that were over by the end of the 3rd quarter (which was most of them) just to try and score more points. Instead we put backups (and their backups) in to get them game action and develop them. So even if we were to lose more players than the griz, we'd still be in a better situation.

[84CatGrad]

"Look, I didn’t see any evidence of “wheels falling off.” UM is regularly investing in their program, in the top two in attendance every year, in the playoffs, and one year removed from being in the National Championship game. If a supposed down year for them means the wheels are falling off the program, then that’s great news. I just don’t believe it, at least not yet. I want to see more evidence in the most important results. Sheesh, now you guys have me defending um. My week is ruined."

My definition of wheels falling off is a sub .500 season and no playoffs. I fervently wish that would be where the frizzzzz are headed but there is little chance of that, especially as they have EIGHT home games next year. EIGHT??!! Come on, man. That should not be allowed.

[Lord Vigo]

The wheels have not come off the UM program to this point, however the pattern that they're in with regards to the portal is accelerating and could go south in a hurry. As we all saw with Florida State this last year, when you rely that heavily on the portal, the outcomes are really high variance.

[coloradocat]

"Look, I didn’t see any evidence of “wheels falling off.” UM is regularly investing in their program, in the top two in attendance every year, in the playoffs, and one year removed from being in the National Championship game. If a supposed down year for them means the wheels are falling off the program, then that’s great news. I just don’t believe it, at least not yet. I want to see more evidence in the most important results. Sheesh, now you guys have me defending um. My week is ruined."

My definition of wheels falling off is a sub .500 season and no playoffs. I fervently wish that would be where the frizzzzz are headed but there is little chance of that, especially as they have EIGHT home games next year. EIGHT??!! Come on, man. That should not be allowed.

For all the advantages they have over 95% of the field, I don't know if they'll ever miss the playoffs completely, at least not in consecutive years. They'll always have their facilities and there are only so many FCS teams competing for FCS players in the Mountain and Pacific time zones. Plus, they won a national championship 23 years ago and that clearly means something to the committee.

My definition of wheels falling off is not being seeded and having to go on the road and lose in the opening round, regularly. Losing Cat-griz nearly every year and then having to go on the road to end your season over Thanksgiving week would be a depressing tradition for griz fans, nearly as bad as not making the playoffs. That limbo between complete irrelevance and just happy to be here would kill their fanbase.

[cats2506]

With the history and resources they have they should really be a top 10 team each year, I would say that MSU has those resources also and are in the same situation. With the suboptimal year and the exodus of players in both graduation and the portal, this is a critical time for their program. Rebuilding through the portal is not a high percentage situation at the FCS level, even when they have some of the best resources in the division.

I'm definitely not saying that they are dead yet, but I see some buzzards circling above.

[4KornerKat]

[coloradocat]

If you had to rank the in-state recruiting classes for every team in Montana, would the griz even finish second?

[SparkCat]

Oof

[nanacat]

Oof

That's just bad press for the griz. Ouch.

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

What kind of scholarship did the Griz offer him? If it was less than a full ride, and you're going more for school than NFL dreams, hard not to take a full scholarship from Carroll

[nanacat]

What kind of scholarship did the Griz offer him? If it was less than a full ride, and you're going more for school than NFL dreams, hard not to take a full scholarship from Carroll

Oh totally! But it still looks bad for the griz to lose another player.