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Wazzu just lost their HC

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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by BleedingBLue » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:35 am

Wazzu has a long history of high flying spread offenses. Would Vigen's style interest them?



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by CalgaryCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:36 am

I think Vigen is gone.



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Post by TIrwin24 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:37 am

I can't blame a person for not wanting to stay in Pullman. That city sucks IMO.


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Post by MSU01 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:37 am

Dickert was the defensive coordinator under Craig Bohl at Wyoming at the same time that Vigen was there as the OC. I was never too concerned about Vigen going to Fresno or Utah State or New Mexico given the timing of those searches, but this one is more concerning since the job is opening later and it wouldn't be out of the question for them to be willing to wait through the holidays and not make a hire until January. Buckle up, the coaching carousel never stops!



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by mslacatfan » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:39 am

CalgaryCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:36 am
I think Vigen is gone.

Pretty bold statement…. Is there a reason you feel that way? Connection on the current staff with Vigen or anything? Is it a job that Vigen has expressed interest in in the past?

Edit- the above posts answered my question.

Hope we don’t lose him.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by CalgaryCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:42 am

mslacatfan wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:39 am
CalgaryCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:36 am
I think Vigen is gone.

Pretty bold statement…. Is there a reason you feel that way? Connection on the current staff with Vigen or anything? Is it a job that Vigen has expressed interest in in the past?

Edit- the above posts answered my question.

Hope we don’t lose him.
Like you said, the above post has solid reasons why. From what I’ve seen, the fans are already bringing up his name, too. I get that’s not exactly a solid lead, but it shows how much interest he already has



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:43 am

Hard to know if wazzu can sell an fcs head coach to the boosters. They tried it once with Paul Wulff and it flopped. I bet you here one Jeffrey Choate's name bandied about for this one too.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

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Hard to know if wazzu can sell an fcs head coach to the boosters. They tried it once with Paul Wulff and it flopped. I bet you here one Jeffrey Choate's name bandied about for this one too.

That would make sense…. As far as choate goes, he has been at Nevada much longer then he typically likes to stick around for his coaching jobs before moving on.


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mslacatfan wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:45 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:43 am
Hard to know if wazzu can sell an fcs head coach to the boosters. They tried it once with Paul Wulff and it flopped. I bet you here one Jeffrey Choate's name bandied about for this one too.

That would make sense…. As far as choate goes, he has been at Nevada much longer then he typically likes to stick around for his coaching jobs before moving on.
Oh he would absolutely leave Nevada for wazzu if offered.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by TIrwin24 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:51 am

CalgaryCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:36 am
I think Vigen is gone.
I wouldn't be too quick on that statement. First of all, the PAC 2 is still a complete sh!t show organization-wise. 2nd - Their ability to attract talent relies heavily on the portal which is a crap-shoot from season to season and lastly, the quality of life for a family in Pullman is not good. It's purely a college town and located in the middle of nowhere.

I may be too optimistic on Vigen and his opinion of BZN, but man, if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't make the switch. (Even if they threw a ton of $$ at me.)


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

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Hard to know if wazzu can sell an fcs head coach to the boosters. They tried it once with Paul Wulff and it flopped. I bet you here one Jeffrey Choate's name bandied about for this one too.
I doubt they'll be very concerned about selling anything to the boosters. Washington State is in a very different place now than they were when Wulff was hired and the Pac-12 had USC and Oregon in it instead of Fresno State and Utah State.



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Post by RICO CAT » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am

Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.


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MSU01 wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:51 am
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:43 am
Hard to know if wazzu can sell an fcs head coach to the boosters. They tried it once with Paul Wulff and it flopped. I bet you here one Jeffrey Choate's name bandied about for this one too.
I doubt they'll be very concerned about selling anything to the boosters. Washington State is in a very different place now than they were when Wulff was hired and the Pac-12 had USC and Oregon in it instead of Fresno State and Utah State.
For sure but they still view themselves as a P4 program regardless of what the facts say. Not saying Vigen couldn't get it but more likely to go hunting for bigger game IMO. Maybe I'm just wishcasting.



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Post by Camo_Cat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:03 am

Meh...maybe I'm uneducated, but I don't see Coach taking that job. The Pac-12 is a mess, and Wazzu's position in that conference is unstable. Sure, it would be more money. But if Coach truly does aspire to move up, I just feel like there will be better opportunities. He's already been with a Mountain West team in a conference that means nothing. With the Power 4 kicking the Pac-12 to the curb, those Pac-12 teams are just as insignificant as a Mountain West team. Vigen can and will do better.



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RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by MSU01 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:08 am

Camo_Cat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:03 am
Meh...maybe I'm uneducated, but I don't see Coach taking that job. The Pac-12 is a mess, and Wazzu's position in that conference is unstable. Sure, it would be more money. But if Coach truly does aspire to move up, I just feel like there will be better opportunities. He's already been with a Mountain West team in a conference that means nothing. With the Power 4 kicking the Pac-12 to the curb, those Pac-12 teams are just as insignificant as a Mountain West team. Vigen can and will do better.
I can't see a Power 4 team hiring him as their head coach straight from MSU, Chris Kleiman to Kansas State worked out pretty well but that is going to be the exception rather than the norm. I think he'd have to go somewhere like Washington State and have some success there for a few years (like Dickert did) to get legitimate looks as a Power 4 HC. I suppose he could also go the Choate route and take a coordinator job in the FBS, although I'm not sure if Choate's ending up at one of the worst FBS programs in the nation and losing out on recruits to MSU would sell that pathway too successfully purely from a career advancement standpoint.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by CalgaryCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:10 am

Camo_Cat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:03 am
Meh...maybe I'm uneducated, but I don't see Coach taking that job. The Pac-12 is a mess, and Wazzu's position in that conference is unstable. Sure, it would be more money. But if Coach truly does aspire to move up, I just feel like there will be better opportunities. He's already been with a Mountain West team in a conference that means nothing. With the Power 4 kicking the Pac-12 to the curb, those Pac-12 teams are just as insignificant as a Mountain West team. Vigen can and will do better.
I get that sentiment, but a potential 500%+ raise is hard to turn down



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BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
His younger kids wouldn't have even had to change schools.


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