Wazzu just lost their HC

[Prodigal Cat]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

[coloradocat]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

[cat22[2010]]

I wouldn’t be surprised or at all upset if he ends up in Pullman.

It’s a better job than Choate took in Reno now that some of the better MWC schools, including Boise State, are reforming the Pac-whatever. Add in UNLV and whoever else and it’s a much better league than the MWC leftovers and includes the Fresno, Denver, and San Diego TV markets.

Would not be surprised, Vigen has earned it, but would be upset. No matter when, the day Vigen leaves ( that day will come) I am going to be upset.

[TIrwin24]

What a sh!t way to depart.

[GoCats18]

I think Vigen is gone.

Even I don’t think this!!! Glad you took the target off me and put it on you. Vigen stays. I don’t think he stays for the long haul, but I think he stays and waits for the right job to come knocking on his door.

[cats2506]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

[MSU01]

The way things have been going I wouldn't be surprised if someone were to sue challenging the "portal windows" in order to get them removed completely. Transfer whenever you want to whoever you want. Angry that you got moved down the depth chart mid-season? Transfer now and find a school that'll let you play more! Don't like your new school after being there for two weeks? Back in the portal again! Didn't get as much NIL money as that shady dude on Twitter promised you? Bye bye!

Somewhat facetious but I highly doubt anything will move in the direction of being MORE restrictive to player movement.

[Prodigal Cat]

The way things have been going I wouldn't be surprised if someone were to sue challenging the "portal windows" in order to get them removed completely. Transfer whenever you want to whoever you want. Angry that you got moved down the depth chart mid-season? Transfer now and find a school that'll let you play more! Don't like your new school after being there for two weeks? Back in the portal again! Didn't get as much NIL money as that shady dude on Twitter promised you? Bye bye!

Somewhat facetious but I highly doubt anything will move in the direction of being MORE restrictive to player movement.

I can see why the NCAA lost the NIL battle. You can't legally restrict someone from making $$ on themselves when the NCAA and schools are. The portal thing would be harder to win. No kid has the RIGHT to go from one school to another. Regular students can transfer mid semester. And the schools that make up the NCAA are clamoring for more regulation so they aren't going to side with the students being allowed to move. I think we will see some change. It could be a small as moving it back just one week but they will do something. They can easily argue its hurting student athletes due to them making rash decisions that hurt their own future. Lots of examples of that.

[bobcatfan123]

What a sh!t way to depart.

It’s the Direct TV Bowl…. It’s as if he doesn’t even care about winning the prestigious Direct Tv Bowl. It’s what every coach dreams about.

[onceacat]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

I mean, yes, thats exactly the point.

[coloradocat]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

I mean, yes, thats exactly the point.

Yes, somewhat hinder/discourage transferring without legally hindering their ability to transfer. They can still make money off their name, what does spring practice have to do with that?

[PapaG]

What a sh!t way to depart.

If the Bobcats move to FBS and make a low-tier bowl game, this will happen to MSU as well.

Happens a lot in FBS football with interims coaching in the boring bowl games.

[PapaG]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

I mean, yes, thats exactly the point.

Yes, somewhat hinder/discourage transferring without legally hindering their ability to transfer. They can still make money off their name, what does spring practice have to do with that?

How are you going to enforce this? The portal dates are already arbitrary and players would sue anyhow if you move the dates to punish their ability to transfer schools.

The Vanderbilt QB just got a full 5th year of eligibility with the reasoning being a JUCO season doesn’t count now.

[AFCAT]

What a sh!t way to depart.

If the Bobcats move to FBS and make a low-tier bowl game, this will happen to MSU as well.

Happens a lot in FBS football with interims coaching in the boring bowl games.

And players choosing not to participate as well.

[damnyoutuesday]

What a sh!t way to depart.

If the Bobcats move to FBS and make a low-tier bowl game, this will happen to MSU as well.

Happens a lot in FBS football with interims coaching in the boring bowl games.

If the Cats move to FBS, every bowl game they make will be a low-tier bowl game. Only way we wouldn't is if we had a season like this year, and even that isn't guaranteed

[PapaG]

What a sh!t way to depart.

If the Bobcats move to FBS and make a low-tier bowl game, this will happen to MSU as well.

Happens a lot in FBS football with interims coaching in the boring bowl games.

And players choosing not to participate as well.

Good point. Look at what happened to James Madison after last season. Lost their coach and something like 12 players to Indiana.

[cats2506]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

I mean, yes, thats exactly the point.

There are a lot more coaches looking to get a new transfer on campus as soon as possible. Fewer teams are concerned about losing a kids before their playoff game. Its just a pure numbers game and something that playoff teams will have to deal with. There are like 250 teams in all of DI, only 36 are playoff teams.

[The Butcher]

What a sh!t way to depart.

If the Bobcats move to FBS and make a low-tier bowl game, this will happen to MSU as well.

Happens a lot in FBS football with interims coaching in the boring bowl games.

And players choosing not to participate as well.

Good point. Look at what happened to James Madison after last season. Lost their coach and something like 12 players to Indiana.

Marshall pulled out of their Independence Bowl game after their coach departed for Southern Miss, prompting 30 players to enter the transfer portal. With too few players available, the school decided not to participate in the game. They were replaced by a 5-7 Louisiana Tech team. I believe situations like this will become increasingly common with coaching changes and the growing trend of players entering the portal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 992687007/

[WetBreeches]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

I mean, yes, thats exactly the point.

Yes, somewhat hinder/discourage transferring without legally hindering their ability to transfer. They can still make money off their name, what does spring practice have to do with that?

How are you going to enforce this? The portal dates are already arbitrary and players would sue anyhow if you move the dates to punish their ability to transfer schools.

The Vanderbilt QB just got a full 5th year of eligibility with the reasoning being a JUCO season doesn’t count now.

I could foresee the "portal" window being enforced by schools and not the NCAA. Colleges have enrollment dates and students need to hit those dates to take courses. Which leads to the inevitable situation where one school completely disregards/eliminates enrollment dates so they can poach players whenever...which would also be hilarious on the academic side if kids starting pushing the mid semester/quarter transfer and the chaos that may ensue...although I don't believe students who are on campus strictly for academics will transfer, it would be hilarious.

The Vanderbilt QB currently has an injunction (so no final verdict), but when all the NIL stuff started to hit, I figured it was a matter of time before a player sued to continue playing college football so they could make money. What legal precedence is there for the NCAA to decide a player can't stay in college and continue making money from NIL? The NCAA has largely gotten by with their rules because no one challenged them. Then Ed O'Bannon and company did and the flood gates have opened since because the NCAA really has no legal leg to stand on with their by laws. They got by on social norms and mores. Which then, it would seem to be more of a university decision as to whom/for what length of time they want "students" on campus. What will be interesting, is what happens when a college player goes pro, burns out after 3 or 4 years and then tries to come back to college? What will the fan reception be? Coach reception?

[tetoncat]

Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.

This is one major reason why hanging on to BV for at least one more season would be very advantageous for the program. We are all seeing the big uproar over Penn St losing their backup QB before the playoffs. Now that more teams including the big boys are involved in a playoff they will cry louder to the NCAA on the timing and the way this portal crap is handled. I seriously think we will see the portal moved back. Not sure how they will fit that in with the academic side of things but I could see the portal not opening till spring break. That would allow teams replacing coaches to get the new guy in place to recruit in house players and all the Playoffs to be over for awhile and things to settle a bit. Having this happen right now is chaos for a bunch of teams still competing. Before it was just a few big programs and the FCS, now its a bigger group with more power over the NCAA.

I like the idea of only opening the portal after spring break. That way you slow these guys down so that they think twice about leaving and can't complain about not being able to transfer immediately because you aren't restricting their ability to fulfill a year of eligibility. They and their new teams wouldn't have the advantage of spring ball but there should be a downside to transferring. That's not even much of a downside at this point with how extensive summer training is and the ability of staffs to adapt to new players in fall camp. Moving the portal window around is really the only card the NCAA can play at this point since the other restrictions were removed by the courts.

I don't know that it will change, the reason it is where it is, is so that the kids can enroll in the new school and be there for winter conditioning and spring ball, coaches want that to.

If you move it after spring break, they wont be able to enroll until the fall.

I mean, yes, thats exactly the point.

There are a lot more coaches looking to get a new transfer on campus as soon as possible. Fewer teams are concerned about losing a kids before their playoff game. Its just a pure numbers game and something that playoff teams will have to deal with. There are like 250 teams in all of DI, only 36 are playoff teams.

That is a trade off for coaches. If they want to fix the issue of players leaving before end of season they will have to be willing to not have on campus until after spring semester most likely.